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RandallFlagg · July 2023

I think the Bazball has got a puncture, it's sitting in the corner looking like a deflated old football

scrumhalf · July 2023

Whilst we have comeback from a large first innings deficit ar Headingley a couple of times there's no need for it to be the modus operandum.

RandallFlagg · July 2023

England are in one man army mode again to try and save their blushes at the first innings total, what is going on?

Hattigol · July 2023

But is it any kind of surprise?

Just felt inevitable. Abysmal opening from the two Yorkshire lads. You kind of knew it would come down to how Stokes did. Again.

sev112 · July 2023

Australia are doing exactly the same outcome, just one player managed to score in each 1st innings

Mellish · July 2023

Against the old adversary you have to be on it. Easy wickets then expecting Stokes to bat England back into it... Well, it's playing with fire imo.

crunchman · July 2023

Meanwhile, Robinson is not on the pitch, and our bowlers haven't had much rest. If they Australians can get through the next hour or so without too much damage, they could bat for 2 days and still have plenty of time to bowl us out.

RandallFlagg · July 2023

But yet in the evening session there is still hope as Aussie top order falls. Is this cricket for the short attention span iPhone generation?

We are playing to save the hopes of The Ashes and I feel queasy

Emp_Fab · July 2023

I've never understood cricket. I've seen people get very VERY into it and talk about what an amazing match it was etc, but from a completely ignorant position it's hardly a great spectator sport is it? Someone chucks a ball at someone else, they smack it with a bit of wood and run back and fore hoping nobody catches it or gets the ball quickly and knocks down some other little bits of wood.

It seems a bit like baseball but with less movement.

Never got it.

chris78 · July 2023

I wouldn’t fancy us chasing more than 200, 220 at a push.
Stokes doesn’t even have one leg, Robinson isn’t fit, Brook isn’t a 3.

S56035 · July 2023

Emp_Fab said:

I've never understood cricket. I've seen people get very VERY into it and talk about what an amazing match it was etc, but from a completely ignorant position it's hardly a great spectator sport is it? Someone chucks a ball at someone else, they smack it with a bit of wood and run back and fore hoping nobody catches it or gets the ball quickly and knocks down some other little bits of wood.

It seems a bit like baseball but with less movement.

Never got it.

Great insight. Just because you have an opinion doesn't mean it needs to be expressed.

Hattigol · July 2023

Emp_Fab said:

I've never understood cricket. I've seen people get very VERY into it and talk about what an amazing match it was etc, but from a completely ignorant position it's hardly a great spectator sport is it? Someone chucks a ball at someone else, they smack it with a bit of wood and run back and fore hoping nobody catches it or gets the ball quickly and knocks down some other little bits of wood.

It seems a bit like baseball but with less movement.

Never got it.

Very few sports come out well when described in such a manner, Emp!

Brize · July 2023

Emp_Fab said:

I've never understood cricket. I've seen people get very VERY into it and talk about what an amazing match it was etc, but from a completely ignorant position it's hardly a great spectator sport is it? Someone chucks a ball at someone else, they smack it with a bit of wood and run back and fore hoping nobody catches it or gets the ball quickly and knocks down some other little bits of wood.

It seems a bit like baseball but with less movement.

Never got it.

I'd never trust a man that doesn't imbibe or a man that doesn't like cricket.

scrumhalf · July 2023

I'm teetotal but love cricket, where does that put me in your scale of trustworthiness?

I think Bairstow's days with the gloves must be numbered, and unless he gets a decent score with the bst in the second innings his plave in the team mudt surely be in question.

Hattigol · July 2023

scrumhalf said:

I think Bairstow's days with the gloves must be numbered, and unless he gets a decent score with the bst in the second innings his plave in the team mudt surely be in question.

Agreed. Absolutely abysmal recently as wicketkeeper and it's not like he's justifying his place with the bat.

guitars4you · July 2023

A rain affected day will favour the Aussies more than us - They only need a draw - Yet the stage of the game will probably ensure that it will only need 4 days of playing for a result

Probably the plus factor of 'bazball' is that you generally get a result within 5 days - As such the issue of not bowling 90 overs in a day is less of an issue - You get more runs in day

chris78 · July 2023

Hattigol said:

scrumhalf said:

I think Bairstow's days with the gloves must be numbered, and unless he gets a decent score with the bst in the second innings his plave in the team mudt surely be in question.

Agreed. Absolutely abysmal recently as wicketkeeper and it's not like he's justifying his place with the bat.

Trouble is, the selectors will need to admit they got it wrong

Hattigol · July 2023

guitars4you said:

A rain affected day will favour the Aussies more than us - They only need a draw - Yet the stage of the game will probably ensure that it will only need 4 days of playing for a result

Probably the plus factor of 'bazball' is that you generally get a result within 5 days - As such the issue of not bowling 90 overs in a day is less of an issue - You get more runs in day

Looking at the forecast though, I'm not sure we'll get 4 days. It's just more of the same on the way.

A draw due to weather would be a real shame.

crunchman · July 2023

Hattigol said:

guitars4you said:

A rain affected day will favour the Aussies more than us - They only need a draw - Yet the stage of the game will probably ensure that it will only need 4 days of playing for a result

Probably the plus factor of 'bazball' is that you generally get a result within 5 days - As such the issue of not bowling 90 overs in a day is less of an issue - You get more runs in day

Looking at the forecast though, I'm not sure we'll get 4 days. It's just more of the same on the way.

A draw due to weather would be a real shame.

Hopefully they get on under cloudy skies, Woakes gets it swinging, and we get the rest of the Aussies for another 40 runs, and we have time to win it.

More realistically, Bairstow and the slips will spill more chances, the Aussies will take advantage of that, and we will lose again unless we are saved by the rain.

Emp_Fab · July 2023

scrumhalf said:

I'm teetotal but love cricket, where does that put me in your scale of trustworthiness?

Well, speaking as a borderline alcoholic who doesn't understand cricket, are we in the same boat?

Emp_Fab · July 2023

S56035 said:
Great insight. Just because you have an opinion doesn't mean it needs to be expressed.

Are you new here?

scrumhalf · July 2023

251.

Hmm....

crunchman · July 2023

Lucky start to the chase. Duckett edged short of the slips twice, and over them once.

RandallFlagg · July 2023

OK so how do England take this really good position and risk losing it?

UnclePsychosis · July 2023

If England dont win from here then the Aussies fully deserve the Ashes tbh.

Doesn't even require any bazball. Just some sensible cricket. I reckon they'll have it done comfortably by tea - barring any rain.

pigface · July 2023

UnclePsychosis said:

If England dont win from here then the Aussies fully deserve the Ashes tbh.

Doesn't even require any bazball. Just some sensible cricket. I reckon they'll have it done comfortably by tea - barring any rain.

Quite so. 2 days to get the runs, weather permitting. Just knock it about.

RandallFlagg · July 2023

Well here we go. On paper those 224 runs should be comfortably achievable with 2 days and 10 wickets in hand but the Australia bowing attack and Cummins captaincy will make this more of a challenge as they look to stifle the run rate waiting for the batting mistakes and wickets.

I don't think is is going to be a walk in the park for either team.

munckee · July 2023

Looking at the innings so far from both iid say Australia are favourites.

Hattigol · July 2023

Hard to call who is favourite.
Australia or Stokes.

crunchman · July 2023

The target is small enough that England can play in one day mode, which suits their batsmen, as most of them don't have the technique to stay in all day.

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