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stickyfiddle · September 2023

Biiiig one for Stroll. Looks like he's ok but blimey.

Dontgiveupyourdayjob · September 2023

Ouch - daddy's going to have dig even deeper into his pockets for that repair bill....

Glad he's ok, but put an end to what was looking like a cracking minute or two of the session!

stickyfiddle · September 2023

I was just thinking how we have not had too many last-lap crashes in quali this year. Should have known Singapore would be the place for it!

Majorscale · September 2023

Well done Lawson. Ironic that RB brought him in and he knocks both of the main teams' drivers out of Q2

stickyfiddle · September 2023

Q2.

7 thousandths.

Ahahahahahahaha…

stickyfiddle · September 2023

But quite seriously, if both RBS are suddenly miles slower after issuance of a new technical directive clarifying rules around flexible bodywork, that speaks volumes imo.

If they’re slower at Suzuka as well it’ll be hilarious.

markr76 · September 2023

stickyfiddle said:

But quite seriously, if both RBS are suddenly miles slower after issuance of a new technical directive clarifying rules around flexible bodywork, that speaks volumes imo.

If they’re slower at Suzuka as well it’ll be hilarious.

The talk is that their plank and skid blocks are springing up out of the way. Allowing the car to run lower. That area of the car should be solid/stiff. It’s the skid blocks are measured after the race and can’t have worn below a certain thickness. They reckon their beam wing was floppy too.

I’m not sure we’ll know how it’s affected them until a couple more races have been run

stickyfiddle · September 2023

markr76 said:

stickyfiddle said:

But quite seriously, if both RBS are suddenly miles slower after issuance of a new technical directive clarifying rules around flexible bodywork, that speaks volumes imo.

If they’re slower at Suzuka as well it’ll be hilarious.

The talk is that their plank and skid blocks are springing up out of the way. Allowing the car to run lower. That area of the car should be solid/stiff. It’s the skid blocks are measured after the race and can’t have worn below a certain thickness. They reckon their beam wing was floppy too.
I’m not sure we’ll know how it’s affected them until a couple more races have been run

Someone must have been doing something, right? Otherwise why issue a directive.

I’m assuming it’s the usual thing where the FIA knows somethings shady in at least one car but it technically passes all the static tests they use, so they don’t get disqualified. But they develop a new test and set of language so that thing can’t be used any more.

Horner just said explicitly that nothing has changed on the car so naturally I’m assuming something has changed

dazzajl · September 2023

stickyfiddle said:

Horner just said explicitly that nothing has changed on the car so naturally I’m assuming something has changed

Yup.

markr76 · September 2023

stickyfiddle said:

markr76 said:

stickyfiddle said:

But quite seriously, if both RBS are suddenly miles slower after issuance of a new technical directive clarifying rules around flexible bodywork, that speaks volumes imo.

If they’re slower at Suzuka as well it’ll be hilarious.

The talk is that their plank and skid blocks are springing up out of the way. Allowing the car to run lower. That area of the car should be solid/stiff. It’s the skid blocks are measured after the race and can’t have worn below a certain thickness. They reckon their beam wing was floppy too.
I’m not sure we’ll know how it’s affected them until a couple more races have been run

Someone must have been doing something, right? Otherwise why issue a directive.

I’m assuming it’s the usual thing where the FIA knows somethings shady in at least one car but it technically passes all the static tests they use, so they don’t get disqualified. But they develop a new test and set of language so that thing can’t be used any more.

Horner just said explicitly that nothing has changed on the car so naturally I’m assuming something has changed

I know that Aston Martin have had a front wing deemed illegal because of the way it was flexing. Which could be why they’ve dropped off a little in performance. They’ve not been too happy about it apparently and have been on at the FIA quite a bit since. Pointing out that a lot of teams have flexible wings etc. Some of their top guys are ex redbull. I’m guessing they have a good idea of some of the things that redbull have been doing. So I’m guessing they’ve been to the FIA asking for clarity on the rules on flexing. Teams will usually ask the FIA if they can run a new idea on the car and is it legal. If the FIA say no. Then they ask why say Redbull are allowed to do it or why are Mercedes allowed to do it.

Like you say. It’s a very specific technical directive.

markr76 · September 2023

It might just be that this circuit isn’t working for their car though.

It wasn’t that long ago that we had the most dominant car. But we just couldn’t make it work at Singapore, no matter what we tried.

stickyfiddle · September 2023

Well apparently no penalty for Max as no-one from Alpha Tauri showed up to talk to the stewards. How in the name of Fangio is that the way things work?!!?

Boromedic · September 2023

Great to see the old Max wasn't far away when their fortunes faded. Hopefully it continues, ungrateful tosspot he is.

Fingers crossed it's not a one off too, but we'll see.

TimmyO · September 2023

stickyfiddle said:

Well apparently no penalty for Max as no-one from Alpha Tauri showed up to talk to the stewards. How in the name of Fangio is that the way things work?!!?

I read that they weren’t formally invited in the usual way. Doesn’t sound dodgy at all

stickyfiddle · September 2023

Stroll won't race. He's still sore apparently, but I wonder if they also don't mind not using all the spares just to race from last with Suzuka next week

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/stroll-to-sit-out-f1-singapore-gp-after-huge-qualifying-crash/10521422/

Cols · September 2023

stickyfiddle said:

Stroll won't race. He's still sore apparently, but I wonder if they also don't mind not using all the spares just to race from last with Suzuka next week

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/stroll-to-sit-out-f1-singapore-gp-after-huge-qualifying-crash/10521422/

To be fair, his head and neck would’ve taken a hell of a hammering. From the in cockpit view, it looked like his head got torn quite sharply to the left on initial impact.

Penn · September 2023

I am so hopeful that this will be a good race. Can’t wait. I don’t actually care who wins as long as it’s not a red bull.

I assume no one’s running in strolls place?

Cols · September 2023

Penn said:

I am so hopeful that this will be a good race. Can’t wait. I don’t actually care who wins as long as it’s not a red bull.

I assume no one’s running in strolls place?

It would be impossible for another driver to stand in for Stroll for the race; they would need to have done qualifying.

stickyfiddle · September 2023

Can't get beaten by Lawson if you never race a lap against him...

Though turns out it was Checo running Yuki off the road. God I'm glad I'm not a red bull driver...!

breakstuff · September 2023

This is absolutely delicious. Potential last and second to last place for Red Bull.

Unlikely, I know, but stranger things have happened.

Penn · September 2023

breakstuff said:

This is absolutely delicious. Potential last and second to last place for Red Bull.

Oh, I really do hope so.

It’s bloody brilliant!

Penn · September 2023

stickyfiddle said:

Can't get beaten by Lawson if you never race a lap against him...

Though turns out it was Checo running Yuki off the road. God I'm glad I'm not a red bull driver...!

I couldn’t remember if it was the car of the driver that they counted as the thing that qualified… if that makes any sense whatsoever ?

Not often a driver drops out of a race.

breakstuff · September 2023

breakstuff said:

This is absolutely delicious. Potential last and second to last place for Red Bull.

Unlikely, I know, but stranger things have happened.

Oh well, we can dream

RiftAmps · September 2023

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Merc can't even win a race with a 25L tyre advantage. Russell in the barrier too...what a way to shit the bed.

MADE MY F*CKING DAY.

Penn · September 2023

RiftAmps said:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Merc can't even win a race with a 25L tyre advantage. Russell in the barrier too...what a way to shit the bed.

MADE MY F*CKING DAY.

I’m just amazed Ferrari didn’t mess it up and end up last. Bit out of character for them.

stickyfiddle · September 2023

Penn said:

RiftAmps said:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Merc can't even win a race with a 25L tyre advantage. Russell in the barrier too...what a way to shit the bed.

MADE MY F*CKING DAY.

I’m just amazed Ferrari didn’t mess it up and end up last. Bit out of character for them.

Well there wasn't really any strategy needed!

Great race for Carlos and a deserving win. He's looking better than Charles of late - will he keep that up?

fretmeister · September 2023

Seems like Max can't win without the best car then.

fretmeister · September 2023

Superb from Carlos there - brilliant tactics backing into Lando to give him DRS to keep the Mercs behind.
Proper thinking while in battle.

fretmeister · September 2023

TimmyO · September 2023

Maybe this week will be the fewest (though doubtless non-zero) moans about how the sport is boring.

Loved that as a spectacle.

Apparently Lando hit the same barrier - wonder if George was too focussed on the back of him and helped him make the same mistake.

Fantastic as a Lando fan.

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