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I recall on R5 football chat with Robbie and Chris, they get annoyed when a caller just speaks about United this and United that, as though there is only one united - Obviously referring to Man U, when even the likes of Hartlepool and Cambridge should be able to have a 'United voice'
Does that mean the likes of Palace and Spurs are unique in that there is no other team that uses such terms
Dorking is a weird setup as the guy who owns it, is chairman, and manager.
They get loads of support (for a National League side) from outside the area due to a YouTube channel, Bunch of Amateurs run by Rich Phippen. For the last 3 seasons he's done a documentary series about Wanderers (I think I've mentioned it on here before). The channel gets loads of viewers, and lots end up supporting Dorking. They've just opened a digital membership scheme now so they are looking to monetise that support, although no idea how successful it will be.
They're moving from a purely part time basis to hybrid, where some players will be full time but others retain a day job. They actually had to release players at the end of last season as they couldn't work, and play football in a higher league, with the extra travel (and therefore time off) involved. It's such a shame as there are some talented guys who get left behind. It must be hard to leave a team moving on to better things.
This season the big financial challenge has been building a new away stand, to bring the ground up to National League standard. It has to be complete by the end of this month but it's almost done now.
It's extremely unlikely that they will ever be able to compete with the likes of Wrexham and Notts County who have way more cash than everyone else. But I guess it's the same at all levels. It will never be a level playing field but definitely things can improve. I just have no idea how.
Most of the clubs with major financial issues seem to have shit owners. Look at Oldham over the years, and more recently Southend. Feel really sorry for their fans.
I can't help about the shape I'm in, I can't sing I ain't pretty and my legs are thin
But don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to
Bye bye Antonio.
Tottenham bloody Hotspur.
We barely laid a glove on Milan, except for Romero who has the subtlety of an unguided missile.
We've spent money in players who haven't delivered the goods.
Our attack has lost its power. Son has lost form, Kulusevski hasn't been the same since coming back from injury, Kane keeps coming deep to get the ball but nothing happens, Lucas will be on his way soon and who knows why we signed Danjuna.
We've had Mourinho and now Conte, sacrificing good football for pragmatic but dull football that's supposed to bring us success. There are very vocal groups of supporters who claim we have to spend hundreds of millions to get sucess, to effectively buy trophies like City and Chelsea. We don't have the money.
We are restricted in what we can do financially. I am reasonably certain that the covenants attached to the loans taken out to finance the stadium restrict what we can spend and how we can spend it, which is why the non-football activities are so important to increase EBITDA and give more funds to the football side of things. Breach those covenants and it will cost a fortune in higher interest rates on the loans. Too many fans fail to understand this. At the moment qualifying for the Champions League brings in more money than winning the Carabao Cup and is more financially sensible.
But after recent shitshows against Sheff Utd, Wolves and Milan we'll be lucky to get into the Eurinal League.
Let the new manager focus on rebuilding the confidence and style of the team in the domestic competitions for a season. Yes, revenues will take a hit for a year, but I'd not be planning on more mega-£m acquisitions anyway.
Spurs approach shouldn't (not just because it can't) be on buying a team. We have to build. Having invested so so much in the academy and training facilities, use that to develop the team, and give the younger players a clear route through to the first team. And we never seem to buy very successfully.
I'd be having a "by mutual consent" discussion with Conte later this morning. Paratici is probably gone (UEFA banned) too. Bring Poch back, give him the rest of this season to work out who's who in the squad, who stays and who doesn't, the summer to really get their heads sorted out, and then roll on 2023/4.
is it crazy how saying sentences backwards creates backwards sentences saying how crazy it is?
Yup.
The likes of Ajax don't have a big enough league to sustain what they develop, so effectively they've become a 'selling club' - But look how well they continually find/develop and sell so many great youngsters - Most PL teams just discard so many of their junior players
Do the likes of Spurs (you can add most PL clubs to that name) find the players coming through their ranks are not good enough - Not given chance to shine/develop - New managers needing instant success and demanding a spend spend spend culture - Would be interesting to see a list of PL signings, from all clubs, say between £20 and £50 million, over the last 10 years and to see how many we'd say are a success or total failure - I bet we've forgotten many names and where are they now
I know Spurs have Kane (for now) - But where are the #9's today - Chelsea, Man U, Arsenal, probably Newcastle all need/want a #9 - Shows what a great find Ivan Toney was - Maybe I'm wrong, but I bet if he'd have gone to an elite club he would not be there now - The likes of Brentford value him and make him central to their plans and have a culture that suits such 'finds' - I bet the elite clubs would have discarded him fairly quickly as they'd expect him to work to their system and not work to the players strengths
We* don't allow the younger players the time to settle into Premier League teams, develop, build confidence and become genuine first-team players. We* take the "safer" option of spending mega-£m on allegedly-proven players.
* By we, I think I'm generally referring to the fans, management and media analysts covering the top 6 (plus Chelsea) teams.
There are exceptions - a couple of "home grown" players in most PL teams - but the fact that they are exceptions rather than the norm is really the sad aspect for me. The academies and training/development programmes really should be good enough to take a 10yr old with great potential, and bring at least half-a-team's worth of players through into a first team in 10 year time.
There's also a bit of chicken and egg. It's difficult to break into the first team until you've got some decent experience (and the confidence of the manager, fans, media), but you only get decent experience in the first team. Hence the loans - which really worked for Skipp at Norwich). I'd look for the main PL teams to have an explicit "B" team playing in a lower Division to blood those players (there are complications with that, but it works abroad).
Ditch Conte and get Harry back for the rest of the season! I love Harry!
I'm glad PSG have failed to achieve their one and only aim - spend spend spend is not always an asset - Messi will probably be gone - Mbappe appears to have injury/fitness issues - It doesn't help that they are effectively in a one horse race each season - But France does produce some great players, so maybe PSG should try and develop the right game plan, the right mentality and less ego, from within - The ego runs from the top down to the likes of Neymar (less so Messi)
Most of our youth players end up in lower leagues as they just aren't good enough or their mentality is weak - if they were good enough they'd have gone to a bigger club. The ones who do go to bigger clubs just disappear and eventually resurface on loan at a lower championship team or a league one side.
The only one who's really sustained a good level would probably be Chris Wood, who worked his way up well after we released him and had some good seasons with Burnley and then Newcastle I think? But for every Wood, there's a Saido Berahino who gets released every few months, or a Nathan Ferguson sat on the injury table at Palace, or various others who have just vanished at premier league sides or who are bang average in league one and league two.
Our current captain is an academy player, and our two goalkeepers are (one currently injured but was playing well up to that point). However the captain is really only a run of the mill championship level player, so is it really worth all the money spent? I don't think so.
Sometimes they won't make it - Jack Clarke looked awesome at U18 and played a few games for Leeds when we were in the EFL with Bielsa - Local talk was that we'd found the next Eddie Gray - Then he had a mysterious break down on the pitch v Middlesborough - Never really did well at Leeds after that - Spurs paid us £10 million and he never did anything for them - Played a couple of cup games I recall - Went on loan a few times - Now at Sunderland and doing well for them - So maybe they need to find their level and maybe EFL is the place for Jack - Equally Joe Gelhardt now on loan at Sunderland - He looked full of potential as an impact sub for Leeds and scored some valuable goals in such a role - But looked lost and lonely when he started a game , so will be interesting to see how he does at Sunderland
City have spent a lot but gone for high quality players who are perhaps not quite galacticos, but are very good players. They have built one of the best Teams in Europe, and still never won it.
Basically I think all it proves is nobody can guarantee winning it. You get the best players with the best manager or the best team playing with the best manager but still nothing is guaranteed.
As it was, he came to Spurs, wasn't ready for the first team, so had to mess about in the reserves/youth teams playing pretend football before getting loaned out to clubs lower down than Leeds. What's the point of that? Whatever the point was supposed to be, it didn't work out, and now he's at Sunderland (as you say).
Perhaps he'll reappear in the PL in a few years time, but the Leeds -> Spurs -> reserves -> loans -> Sunderland journey must have dented his confidence and impeded his development as a first team player.
If it costs £10 million a year to bring on such a player every three years then it's sound financial sense to do so.
Winning trophies is a thing to be proud of.
Getting into the CL brings a shit tonne of cash, which helps you win trophies, so top four is a thing to be happy about, although even then massive clubs celebrating it is a bit much to my mind.
Top six? Lol.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-64860233
Not necessarily the "top 6" placed clubs in the PL, just the 6 clubs who qualified for additional competitions as a result of their domestic performance.