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  • camfcamf Frets: 1175
    Dopesick said:

    Worst England Top Six I've ever seen.
    Hard to argue with that.
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  • scrumhalfscrumhalf Frets: 10838
    Any truth in the rumours that Jofra's been on the phone to the West Indies Cricket Board begging forgiveness?
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  • HeartfeltdawnHeartfeltdawn Frets: 21788
    guitars4you said:
    Sometimes you don't know what to say that doesn't contain a swear word

    As part of the team management etc then what do you say - Far easier to correct and fine tune one or two issues - When it is all as bad as this then where do you start


     You start by looking at the women's game. So much of the financial boost a few years back went into the top level with the goal of winning the World Cup. This short-term goal was achieved but it was at the price of the domestic structure going nowhere. Cricket Australia went long-term and now they're light years ahead of everyone having spent their financial boost wisely by strengthening top and bottom and making their domestic structure better. 

    the men's game has had the financial boost going on for years and focused on the short term goal of winning the World Cup. This was achieved by fucking over county cricket, primarily the one-day competition and the County Championship, and this will be compounded next season with the introduction of the Hundred, a competition which so far seems to be focused on rewarding Australians with fat coaching contracts. 

    I hope to shit that the Test-loving fraternity do everything possible to boycott the team if we get stuffed this series. Don't attend internationals, stay away from the Hundred. Nothing would send a greater message to the ECB than Pakistan and Windies series next year where there are vast expanses of empty seating. 





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  • DopesickDopesick Frets: 1506
    edited August 2019
    camf said:
    Dopesick said:

    Worst England Top Six I've ever seen.
    Hard to argue with that.
    Well, granted I've only been watching since the mid 90s really, but despite the doldrums we were in at the latter part of the 90s after losing at home to NZ and then the numerous whitewashes against the Aussies, we always had world class batsmen like Stewart, Hussain, Thorpe, Cook, Pietersen etc.

    Nobody in the current Top Six is at the same standard.
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  • HeartfeltdawnHeartfeltdawn Frets: 21788
    And doesn't this story sum English Test cricket up over the last few years. 

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/49449547

    Come down to Taunton, Haseeb. We'll get you firing. 



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  • scrumhalfscrumhalf Frets: 10838
    And the hits just keep on rolling.

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  • RandallFlaggRandallFlagg Frets: 13679
    If England have lost The Ashes by Old Trafford, I'm not going. I'm not.


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  • scrumhalfscrumhalf Frets: 10838
    Three wickets lost in 20 minutes since lunch.

    Words fail me. 
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  • DopesickDopesick Frets: 1506
    guitars4you said:
    crunchman said:
    79 looks a long way off at the moment.
    adjusted that for you
    When jokes become reality.
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  • scrumhalfscrumhalf Frets: 10838
    Beefy just now: 4th time since the beginning of last year that we've been bowled out for under 100. So let's introduce another tip and run competition to ensure that nobody knows how to leave the ball. 
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  • RandallFlaggRandallFlagg Frets: 13679

    England look beyond dejected and faithless in the field, they know that Aus just have to canter another 100+ runs and it's all over save 2 dead rubber matches.


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  • RandallFlaggRandallFlagg Frets: 13679
    scrumhalf said:
    Three wickets The Ashes lost in 20 minutes since lunch.

    Words fail me. 
    FTFY


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  • DopesickDopesick Frets: 1506
    Warner out lbw...I KNEW WE COULD WIN THIS...haaaa.
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  • guitars4youguitars4you Frets: 12794
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    RandallFlagg said:
    If England have lost The Ashes by Old Trafford, I'm not going. I'm not.
    I was just thinking about you

    Can't see England winning this match now - Assume the Aussies will - So 2 nil up and as such they retain the Ashes
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  • guitars4youguitars4you Frets: 12794
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    Missed Butlers wicket - Looking at the score card, all wickets were catches from behind - Doesn't that tell part of a story

    Lyons figures not very good - None for 2
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  • HeartfeltdawnHeartfeltdawn Frets: 21788
    RandallFlagg said:
    If England have lost The Ashes by Old Trafford, I'm not going. I'm not.
    At this rate you will be going but as a top order batsman, not a spectator. 



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  • RandallFlaggRandallFlagg Frets: 13679
    guitars4you said:
    RandallFlagg said:
    If England have lost The Ashes by Old Trafford, I'm not going. I'm not.
    I was just thinking about you

    Can't see England winning this match now - Assume the Aussies will - So 2 nil up and as such they retain the Ashes

    Yep, 4th Test will be dead rubber


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  • guitars4youguitars4you Frets: 12794
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    26-1  that is a lead of 138

    Declaration might be coming before tea
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  • crunchmancrunchman Frets: 10961
    guitars4you said:
    Missed Butlers wicket - Looking at the score card, all wickets were catches from behind - Doesn't that tell part of a story

    Lyons figures not very good - None for 2
    Buttler was a catch at short extra cover.  More poor batting.
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  • scrumhalfscrumhalf Frets: 10838
    So the Aussies have managed to match our first innings for the loss of three wickets.

    Three wickets. 

    Bloody hell. 
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  • HeartfeltdawnHeartfeltdawn Frets: 21788
    George Dobell's article out today is right on the money. 

    https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/27446421/jason-roy-woes-test-opener-epitomise-broken-system

    "It was the fourth time in the Trevor Bayliss era that they have been bowled out for under 100; no other Test side has suffered such an indignity so often. It keeps happening. And if things keep happening, they can't be dismissed as an aberration."

    and

    "    Ed Smith, the head selector who has pushed for Roy to open, Pope to bat at No. 4 and Denly to win an extended chance in the side, does not emerge from this situation especially well. He has previously defended his selection policy by stating "there has to be a compelling reason not to have one of your top players in the team". But such a naïve policy ignores the balance required to build a side; it ignores the specialism required at this level; it involved far too much wishful thinking. It just isn't working."

    Makes Rob Smyth's column from last November look awfully smug. Which it was then and looks horrific now. 

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/nov/07/ed-smith-england-cricket-selections-alex-ferguson-sport

    Ed Smith isn't Ferguson. He's Claudio Ranieri, one big win under his belt and a reputation for tinkering until he can tinker no more. 



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  • cj73cj73 Frets: 1002
    can sandpaper on bails generate enough friction to cause ignition and hence ashes?


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  • octatonicoctatonic Frets: 33263
    Well that was unexpected.
    67... Jesus.
    James Richmond

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  • VimFuegoVimFuego Frets: 14862
    in boxing this is called rope a dope, sadly it doesn't work when your the dope. 

    I'm not locked in here with you, you are locked in here with me.

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  • MoominpapaMoominpapa Frets: 1649
    Bowled out for 67. England batsmen are stressing out too much over the possibility of a no-deal Brexit. Or the Amazon - yes  that must be it, they're too upset about the destructive wildfires to concentrate on the Australian deliveries. Or no, wait, it could be Trump's bullying attitude to Denmark over the Greenland thing - that sort of thing gets to a batsman, you know.
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  • RandallFlaggRandallFlagg Frets: 13679
    edited August 2019
    It's wounded animal time now, Aus will bat through this evening and all day tomorrow and still have 2 days to bowl England out again.

    This is the slow pain that can be inflicted in a test match. I don't think I can watch.

    I'm on the Jack Daniels, 1 litre bottle. Going on Peach Guitars and Guitars4You websites to look at expensive guitars


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  • RandallFlaggRandallFlagg Frets: 13679
    Root fumbled catch as I typed. Just sums it all up.


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  • scrumhalfscrumhalf Frets: 10838
    RandallFlagg said:
    It's wounded animal time now, Aus will bat through this evening and all day tomorrow and still have 2 days to bowl England out again.

    This is the slow pain that can be inflicted in a test match. I don't think I can watch.

    I'm on the Jack Daniels, 1 litre bottle. Going on Peach Guitars and Guitars4You websites to look at expensive guitars
    Don't do it! You'll end up buying something and hating it because it's the "crap cricket" guitar.
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  • MoominpapaMoominpapa Frets: 1649
    RandallFlagg said:
    Root fumbled catch as I typed. Just sums it all up.
      Probably he's been going at a one litre Jack Daniels, too
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  • crunchmancrunchman Frets: 10961
    Moominpapa said:
    RandallFlagg said:
    Root fumbled catch as I typed. Just sums it all up.
      Probably he's been going at a one litre Jack Daniels, too
    If you are the captain and number 3, and the selectors keep selecting Roy to open, that's probably the natural reaction.
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