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Plus good to see us achieving such targets - Many times in the past we've just being nailed and under performed
To win from 55-6 as well
Going to be a hard call as well for the India match - If Anderson is fit then to drop Overton would be harsh - Yet his key job is as a bowler - Hopefully he'll be back - Other option is to play Overton and rest Broad and have him ready for SA later in the summer
That's the nature of top spin, be it cricket or tennis. Ball dips, hit the turf, and it bounces. A lot of commentators don't get this. Topspinners don't scuttle through like a backspun flipper or the slider. That LBW referral from Bracewell at TB was a perfect example. Ian Ward and Mark Butcher thought Hawkeye was horribly wrong at TB when it showed the ball bouncing over the stumps. Within two overs, one turned and bounced through the gate at Foakes... and bounced right over the stumps.
It's even more pronounced if you bowl leg breaks and can bowl a topspun googly and a sidespun googly. One turns more and bounces less.
in theory, a ball spinning forwards should bounce flatter than one without topspin, or one with backspin, but it is more that (with the length of a cricket pitch, the height that the ball that is thrown upwards) the flight angle for a top spinning bowled ball is steeper than a backwards spinning ball, so when it hits the pitch it then bounces at the higher angle to a backwards spinning ball.
i think
it would be really good if Hawkeye and the analysts could actually show side on profiles of a top spinning ball and a backwards spinning one
i used to take more wickets with the forwards / top spinning balls than I ever did with ones I was trying to change direction with
There's a lot of factors influencing it. Release point of the ball is one. Simon Hughes did a piece in 2005 on Warne's top spinner versus the leg break which very neatly explains it.
You then have to consider the pitch in question. I played most of my league cricket on a very atypical wicket for this area. It was set in chalkland so drained very quickly. It had pace and bounce. A couple of counties visited there in the days of the Natwest Trophy and rated it as one of the best wickets they'd seen outside of FC level. As a slow bowler, it didn't give you huge amounts of help so you had to be on your game otherwise you'd get carted. Because of the hard nature of the wicket, in dry conditions the conventional back of the hand topspinner really didn't do much because it couldn't bite into the wicket. The topspun googly on the other hand did get some bite and I frequently had people caught in the point area trying to cut.
On a pitch that had a soft top surface, the conventional topspinner would bite a lot more. My topspun googly got even more though. It would stop in the wicket and the cut back and bounce would surprise a lot of batsmen because it would whistle past their nose.
Trent Bridge and Headingley were really good exercises in different wickets suiting different spin bowlers. Bracewell at TB got more bounce and turn than Leach because he bowled more into the wicket. Leach by comparison was a bit more 'drop it on the spot'. Headingley was a different matter. Bowling it into the wicket didn't do much for Bracewell. Leach on the other hand had the dip and the bounce. it utterly worked for him. Figuring out what pace and 'style' to bowl is a real art in itself. Some wickets meant I'd bowl with a much higher arm, others way lower going for the sidespin. part of the fun playing multi-day games at youth level was realising that bowling one way worked on day 1 but day 3 was something else. It's that sort of game evolution that makes FC cricket so bloody good.
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Bonus it is India, as we actually booked tickets for the South Africa test, but they got swapped around.
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And, Kent fan though I am, Zak Crawley has to go. He may well have that certain something but it's uncertain just now. That said, none of our batsmen are looking like world beaters at the moment in this game.
chirping to the press that they were the future of test cricket and the rest of the world should look out!
It is notable that all summer, bar a 50 here and there, no top order batsman (Root being the obvious exception) has excelled. Openers have struggled, Williamson has struggled. All of the runs seem to come when the shitty batch of balls go soft after 30 or so overs.
If England are so desperate to Crawley to be in the team, put him in the middle order.
I am going tomorrow - Bairstow and Stokes at the crease. Looking forward to it.
Part of me hopes we get bowled out though because I want the chance to see Kohli bat in the flesh and tick it off my list.
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Enjoy the ride whilst we can - And I don't mean that in a negative/knocking way - We all know that such spells can come and go, no matter who is the team
We've had a great start, SA will be good opponents, but all the hype about one man making the difference is tedious bullshit, as is the belief that all of our woes were down to Silverwood. What we're seeing is a change of attitude that is facilitated by:
-better management through the ECB
-better coaching
-clear defined roles for individuals
-no fucking Covid bubbles. I defy any side to play and be carefree and happy when spending so long in bubbles as England did compared to just about every other side out there.
Until we go overseas, we won't be tested fully.
That said, we have Root and Bairstow batting quite brilliantly and in Potts we seem to have found a bowler who has jumped the queue over those who are injured or unavailable and may well flourish on Aussie pitches.
Quite true. It is very special but some of the commentary out there on it is just ridiculous. To see decent correspondents claiming that they've never seen a change of leadership have such an effect on England previously is baffling when the story of the 1981 Ashes and a mid-series captaincy change and the effect it had on individual performance (Willis was close to extinct and Beefy's form with bat, ball, and fielding was dire before the change) is so well known.
The change is pronounced. The opposition far from top form. NZ drew in the winter at home against SA and Bangladesh. They've just been tanked 3-0 here, the loss of Whatling and Taylor left a big gap, Williamson's had injury trouble, Southee looked way short of form, they lost Jamieson to injury, they have been all over the place with the spin bowling... when you add in the women's struggles in the World Cup at home leading to a load of well-established older players in favour of younger unproven ones. It's fair to say NZ cricket as a whole is right up in the air at the minute. I think they were helped enormously by the schedules over the pandemic period and so didn't suffer bubble burnout as some sides did.
India: undercooked. Shami and Bumrah were splendid, the first-changers dreadful. Batting saved by a knockout innings from Pant and Jadeja being Jadeja.
So yes, we should celebrate how England have played but it's not going to be a linear progression upwards. The Pakistan tour is going to be seriously hard work. The key thing is not to be one-dimensional. A side that goes out to swing and swing merrily is being as one-dimensional in its approach as being defensive.
Absolutely. It beggars belief how the spin situation went. Ajaz Patel went from a ten wicket innings haul in India to a two over spell for 22 in his next Test and then has to watch as a second-string off-spinner comes into the Test side, bowls well for one spell against Foakes in the 2nd Test, and who then gets absolutely murdered in the Third Test. To go from being the third player to take a 10 wicket innings haul to absolute outcast in favour of a dude who isn't even the best spinner in the Bracewell family is fucking lunacy.
Things are changing. In bowling, the basics have worked and this has been typified by how Potts has bowled. Nothing revolutionary about him, almost McGrath-like at times, and he got people out. No coincidence that the worst moment for England this summer came when we went back to the enforcer shite against India. The Second Test when people were ragging on Leach for going at 4 runs an over was horrific. Funnily those people shut up when his opposite number went for even more. What England have done is combine a radical batting policy with a reapplication of bowling standards.
One quirk: left-arm spinners have been very successful in T20 cricket yet most of them have been murdered in recent months in Tests (Leach has, Patel has, Embuldeniya got hit against Australia for SL).
We're talking about players injured mid-game. 1st Test: C DeG's injury and Patel's banishment meant they were down two bowlers in the final innings of the 1st Test and had to use three bowlers. Jamieson went down at Trent Bridge 1st bowling innings, didn't bowl at all in the 2nd innings, and this exposed a weak spinner in Bracewell. Effectively three bowlers used again in a final innings.
Headingley was a complete misread of the pitch hence wrong selection.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/new-zealand-in-england-2022-1276891/england-vs-new-zealand-3rd-test-1276903/full-scorecard
If you consider the list of bowlers we have missing, it’s quite incredible, especially if you include the likes of Rashid and Ali as retired players