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menamestom · September 2022

thecolourbox said:

I think he meant they expect to beat the five they had beaten at that point

Ah my bad, that makes sense now I re read it.

Apologies @Lestratcaster I misunderstood. I expect Arsenal will be there or thereabouts come the end of the season.

axisus · September 2022

Tough picking top 4 this season!

City for the win, I'm thinking Spurs & Arsenal plus as a Man U fan I can't not stick them in (a big dollop of wishful thinking maybe). Seems unthinkable no Chelsea or Liverpool though!?!?!

I'm loving seeing Brighton flying high, but that must fade over the season

The Prem is a bloody good league!

tony99 · September 2022

axisus said:

Tough picking top 4 this season!

City for the win, I'm thinking Spurs & Arsenal plus as a Man U fan I can't not stick them in (a big dollop of wishful thinking maybe). Seems unthinkable no Chelsea or Liverpool though!?!?!

I'm loving seeing Brighton flying high, but that must fade over the season

The Prem is a bloody good league!

Haha is it a bloody good league because Man U have won a few, or is it a devalued league if Man City win it again?

axisus · September 2022

tony99 said:

axisus said:

Tough picking top 4 this season!

City for the win, I'm thinking Spurs & Arsenal plus as a Man U fan I can't not stick them in (a big dollop of wishful thinking maybe). Seems unthinkable no Chelsea or Liverpool though!?!?!

I'm loving seeing Brighton flying high, but that must fade over the season

The Prem is a bloody good league!

Haha is it a bloody good league because Man U have won a few, or is it a devalued league if Man City win it again?

Just the overall competitiveness!

Lestratcaster · September 2022

menamestom said:

thecolourbox said:

I think he meant they expect to beat the five they had beaten at that point

Ah my bad, that makes sense now I re read it.

Apologies @Lestratcaster I misunderstood. I expect Arsenal will be there or thereabouts come the end of the season.

No worries, yeah thecolourbox is right. Had we not beaten the 5 teams I'd have been concerned with the lack of progress.

And I don't expect us to beat City at all, I'm just interested to see how we compete against them this season with the new additions and team spirit.

Lestratcaster · September 2022

Bit disappointed with the defeat yesterday but its not like we played badly and got hammered. Just defensive naivety and bad game management. We got ourselves back in the game but then were caught out on the counter trying to push for the 2nd.

I don't think it'll affect us too much, but worried with the lack of squad depth in midfield. Vieira looked alright when he came on but we need more than that if we are going to get loads of injuries. Been reading Smith Rowe pulled a hamstring in the warm down after the game.

Oh and I don't think it was a foul by Odegaard in the lead up to Martinelli's goal.

guitars4you · September 2022

Lestratcaster said:

Oh and I don't think it was a foul by Odegaard in the lead up to Martinelli's goal.

Sorry but I do - he didn't get the ball before the foul or after - He caught Eriksen's leg that 'forced' him to nudge the ball away from himself, which is when Arsenal pounced

At full speed I'd agree with you but once VAR looked at it, it became clear it was one job they got right this weekend - And I'm a Leeds fan so rarely ever come down on the side of Man U

Hattigol · September 2022

Lestratcaster said:

Bit disappointed with the defeat yesterday but its not like we played badly and got hammered. Just defensive naivety and bad game management. We got ourselves back in the game but then were caught out on the counter trying to push for the 2nd.

I don't think it'll affect us too much, but worried with the lack of squad depth in midfield. Vieira looked alright when he came on but we need more than that if we are going to get loads of injuries. Been reading Smith Rowe pulled a hamstring in the warm down after the game.

Oh and I don't think it was a foul by Odegaard in the lead up to Martinelli's goal.

Last time I checked, clattering through the back of them and not playing the ball is still a foul.

Especially if even Leeds fans like @guitars4you are thinking it!

guitars4you · September 2022

See Spurs, Celtic and Leeds came up as answers on University Challenge this week within the bonus questions - Glad I got all 3 correct and that was just about my limit that week as well - Think the 'clever gits' only got 1 right

guitars4you · September 2022

Apparently the PL spent more on transfers in the last window than Spain, Germany, Italy combined

guitars4you · September 2022

Tuchel Gone

guitars4you · September 2022

guitars4you said:

Tuchel Gone

Wow - You win the champions league have a few iffy games and then get kicked in the groin

I had FFL to be sacked first at Everton

So who will come in and take on that role now at Chelsea - Poch ? - would not be the first time he has followed Tuchel

Philly_Q · September 2022

I was joking about that with my Chelsea-supporting friend yesterday evening. Still a bit surprised.

CHRISB50 · September 2022

guitars4you said:

Tuchel Gone

Pochettino? Zidane?

guitars4you · September 2022

CHRISB50 said:

guitars4you said:

Tuchel Gone

Pochettino? Zidane?

long shot - Potter ?????

axisus · September 2022

guitars4you said:

Apparently the PL spent more on transfers in the last window than Spain, Germany, Italy combined

GDP?

TeleMaster · September 2022

I don't know if there are many Chelsea fans here but to me, Tuchel seems like a top manager. He won the CL a year ago and they're 6th in the league and just won a local derby.

I really don't know what they're thinking.

axisus · September 2022

guitars4you said:

Tuchel Gone

Bloody hell! That's a shocker! Sorry for Tuchel he seems like a decent guy but ha ha to Chelsea, I hope it goes even more pear shaped!

Owners seem to think that sacking a manager is the route to success, I'd say take a look at Man U's woeful decade. Personally if I had a decent manager I'd hang on to him through leaner times. Football has ups and downs.

Hattigol · September 2022

Absolutely fkg bonkers.

Philly_Q · September 2022

TeleMaster said:

I don't know if there are many Chelsea fans here but to me, Tuchel seems like a top manager. He won the CL a year ago and they're 6th in the league and just won a local derby.

I really don't know what they're thinking.

Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.

Hattigol · September 2022

This didn't age well - the BBC Sport website at 8.44am:

"Thomas Tuchel had some damning words for his team and for himself after the defeat at Dinamo - and it's not the first time he's said them this season.

He sounded as bemused as after defeats at Leeds United and Southampton.

His task is to blend this Chelsea team together and at at the moment there are issues everywhere.

He's clearly not happy but he has the side he wants now and his job is to try to make it work. He's admitted that.

For Tuchel's 100th game in charge, this was a very forgettable one and they're playing catch up already in the Champions League.

I don't think we're at the stage where he's under pressure. The owner and the manager are pretty tight and have worked very closely this summer to get the players he wanted.

He'll have plenty of time - but he has to get it right, and get it right quickly".

Jesus, I thought Abramovic was mental....

thecolourbox · September 2022

That does seem a bit mad, especially as any new manager will have to work with his players as there aren't really any worthwhile free agents that I'm aware of. I never really liked Tuchel or his teams but he did win stuff with them against various odds (although the one season my club West Brom played against them we scored 8 goals against them in two matches, considering we couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo for the rest of the season that did seem quite odd)

Edit, I felt he had a certain Henry Kreel from Stranger Things vibe about him

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guitars4you · September 2022

TeleMaster said:

I don't know if there are many Chelsea fans here but to me, Tuchel seems like a top manager. He won the CL a year ago and they're 6th in the league and just won a local derby.

I really don't know what they're thinking.

I agree - Doesn't stack up to me - Obviously we don't know how he got on with the new owners and/or how they were impressed with each other - Maybe they didn't like his theatrics v Spurs - His negative comments after last nights defeat - Even his 'we were the better team' comments after losing 3-0 to Leeds - Some American's like a clean cut professional image as their 'front man' - So maybe the issue was not about what happened on the pitch over the last few games - Just a hunch

CHRISB50 · September 2022

guitars4you said:

guitars4you said:

Tuchel Gone

Wow - You win the champions league have a few iffy games and then get kicked in the groin

I had FFL to be sacked first at Everton

So who will come in and take on that role now at Chelsea - Poch ? - would not be the first time he has followed Tuchel

It’s the Chelsea way. Look at Di Matteo.

thecolourbox · September 2022

In fairness Tuchel is a million times better manager than Di Matteo

Philly_Q · September 2022

Brendan Rodgers will be looking for a new challenge soon....

CHRISB50 · September 2022

thecolourbox said:

In fairness Tuchel is a million times better manager than Di Matteo

He is.

Di Matteo was always a dead man walking, even though he won the CL.

He wasn’t the name RA wanted, so first excuse he had he got rid.

They are a really shitty club. I hate the way they are run. Doesn’t seem like anything changed with the new owner either.

TTony · September 2022

Well, that's a little bit of madness!

Spend £250m (?) in the summer, then sack the manager just a few games later?

Still, great from a Spurs perspective, I thought he was a decent-enough manager. Agree with @Philly_Q that Rodgers is probably going to be available shortly, but not sure how far his reputation has fallen this/last season. Maybe the new owner has got a favourite baseball coach to bring over?

thecolourbox · September 2022

CHRISB50 said:

thecolourbox said:

In fairness Tuchel is a million times better manager than Di Matteo

He is.

Di Matteo was always a dead man walking, even though he won the CL.

He wasn’t the name RA wanted, so first excuse he had he got rid.

They are a really shitty club. I hate the way they are run. Doesn’t seem like anything changed with the new owner either.

We (west brom) had RDM for a season and a bit, it looked like he did well for us in the first season but essentially we just had better players having just been relegated, and we just had a Plan A which happened to work. We started really well (6-0 loss to Chelsea aside) but then he ran out of ideas and we didn't seem to win a match for ages. Always seemed a great chap, but I'd say more of a coach than a manager. His record as a manager since seems to bear that out as well unfortunately

Philly_Q · September 2022

To play devil's advocate, Tuchel hasn't done himself any favours by slagging off the team after every poor performance this season, as if it was all nothing to do with him. In fact he seems to have gone slightly mad - and the signs were already there at the end of last season.

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