UFOs are here.. get your tin hats on folks.

Bellycaster · September 2021

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WiresDreamDisasters · September 2021

ICBM said:

WiresDreamDisasters said:

What do you mean by 'independently' ????

Mars became extremely arid and incapable of supporting active complex life billions of years ago, long before it arose on Earth. If there was ever complex life on Mars, it can't have been the progenitor of complex life on Earth since it couldn't have survived the only feasible means of transport - being carried here on meteorites blasted from the surface of Mars by impacts - since only extremely basic, primitive life could do - it would have had to spend a similar amount of time in space before it got here and would have to be some dormant form.

Hence any complex life in both places must have arisen independently, proving that step is less difficult than it appears from the evidence on Earth alone. If it's happened twice in one solar system, it's a certainty that it will have happened elsewhere, given the size of the Universe. So finding any kind of complex life on Mars - even fossil - would be the most significant event in the history of human science since it would mean that we are not alone.

Yeah but have you factored the Stargate into your theory????

Nitefly · September 2021

Emp_Fab said:

Does anyone subscribe to the idea that we might be originally from Mars? Or that Mars had a civilisation millions of years before us? Not that long ago they were dismissing the notion that Mars ever had water - now it's accepted there were oceans.

Ray Bradbury did - have a read of The Martian Chronicles.

Mellish · September 2021

My apologies for digging THIS out again. If life can happen here, why not elsewhere? That said, if I were an extraterrestrial, do you think I'd want to come here?

equalsql · January 2022

Seems like a young physicist is looking to reverse UFO propulsion technology from the known 'facts' we have on them at the moment. Fascinating stuff.

Kittyfrisk · January 2022

Not often the Daily Star prints a story that makes sense

chillidoggy · January 2022

Mellish said:

My apologies for digging THIS out again. If life can happen here, why not elsewhere? That said, if I were an extraterrestrial, do you think I'd want to come here?

Depends whether or not you land in Margate,

Mellish · January 2022

@chillidoggy ; I was being silly mate. Do I believe there's intelligent life elsewhere? I'd say yes. Do I think they come here? Well, 4.5 light years minimum. That's a heck of a journey and for what? A fly around, no attempt at contact? It just doesn't make sense to me

Kittyfrisk · January 2022

Genuinely interesting. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-60150542

chillidoggy · January 2022

Mellish said:

@chillidoggy ; I was being silly mate. Do I believe there's intelligent life elsewhere? I'd say yes. Do I think they come here? Well, 4.5 light years minimum. That's a heck of a journey and for what? A fly around, no attempt at contact? It just doesn't make sense to me

I wouldn’t be at all shocked to learn intelligent life exists elsewhere, and if so, that they have the same desire to get out from behind their desks and explore the galaxy. I just imagined them driving a whopping 4.5 light years from home to land in a shitbox town, rolling their 10 pairs of eyes at the desolation before climbing back into their spaceship and fucking off back home. Let’s face it, if they needed a bank, a decent restaurant, or a doctor’s appointment, they’re gonna be out of luck. On the other hand if they need to score some gear, or get pissed and mugged in Iceland car park, they’ll fit right in. Or they could be like the Russkies, with a desire to invade as much territory as possible, who knows?

Simonh · January 2022

Generally in the movies Aliens are always being depicted as wanting our "resources" when the reality as it appears is that those resources are plentiful across the galaxy.

As much as I want to believe I do fall into the camp that if they had come all this way to visit us then why not say hello - it does not make much sense. a remote probe makes much more sense as we ourselves have demonstrated with Mars etc...

chillidoggy · January 2022

What's to say they're not already here and members of tFB?

Haych · January 2022

chillidoggy said:

What's to say they're not already here and members of tFB?

Shit! I've been rumbled!

breakstuff · January 2022

chillidoggy said:

What's to say they're not already here and members of tFB?

I get the feeling they're far more prevalent on TGP.

Mellish · January 2022

We do send probes but for a reason. I just don't get flying around, no attempt at contact and then, presumably, departing. Why come here at all if just for that? No, if they *did* come, it would be obvious: You'd see the probe observing

Philtre · January 2022

They're already here and have been in control of humans for quite some time.

Image: https://cdn.britannica.com/q:60/91/181391-050-1DA18304/cat-toes-paw-number-paws-tiger-tabby.jpg

Haych · January 2022

Mellish said:

We do send probes but for a reason. I just don't get flying around, no attempt at contact and then, presumably, departing. Why come here at all if just for that? No, if they *did* come, it would be obvious: You'd see the probe observing

They're just en route to their time share near Alpha Centauri, Earth is on the way so they swing by to take a look and keep the kids entertained.

Mellish · January 2022

Aww sweet! Cat lover here

Mellish · January 2022

Oh that's the reason @Haych. Had me going there

bertie · January 2022

chillidoggy said:

What's to say they're not already here and members of tFB?

he's welsh isnt he ?

equalsql · February 2022

Here's an interesting document to peruse. A declassified Blue Book report of an encounter back in the late 40s where a figher pilot chasing a UFO was killed. Page 27 put a chill down my back where it reports the fighter exploded in the air.

https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/project-blue-book-the-thomas-mantell-case-7-january-1948/

Mellish · February 2022

@equalsql ; not easy to read that on a mobile - bit blurry. But I'm sceptical. Oh sure, I believe the pilot died and his plane exploded. But fired upon by a UFO? If they came here, simply because they could would mean they would be far more advanced...what I'm getting at is that they should be able to outmanouver any pilot we have without the need for aggression

Haych · February 2022

Looking at things logically:

Has an aircraft not exploded mid-air before?

Could there not be another explanation for the P51 exploding in mid-air?

Are the eyewitness accounts reliable? Eyewitness accounts are notoriously unreliable, usually.

Is the use of the word "explode" accurate and a fair description of what happened? For example, if the aircraft simply catastrophically broke up mid-air could it be described as an explosion by a layperson?

At what altitude was the P51 flying when eyewitnesses saw the explosion? The last altitude mentioned in the report states 32,000 feet - could any person on the ground actually tell the difference between an aircraft at that altitude exploding and just breaking up, and even if it did explode I go back to Q1.

equalsql · February 2022

This is interesting. Of course it could all be bollocks but, you never know.

bloodandtears · July 2023

Things are ramping up..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66320498

Kilgore · July 2023

Simonh said:

Generally in the movies Aliens are always being depicted as wanting our "resources" when the reality as it appears is that those resources are plentiful across the galaxy.

They could be interested in specific resources that are only available on Earth. Courgettes or Mangoes for example.

Hurling_Fruitmig · July 2023

Mellish said:

...I just don't get flying around, no attempt at contact and then, presumably, departing. Why come here at all if just for that?...

According to Douglas Adams, some aliens do just that:

Teasers are usually rich kids with nothing to do. They cruise around looking for planets that haven't made interstellar contact yet and buzz them, meaning that they find some isolated spot with very few people around, then land right by some poor unsuspecting soul whom no one's going to believe and then strut up and down in front of him wearing silly antennas on their head and making beep beep noises.

Hurling_Fruitmig · July 2023

Kilgore said:

Simonh said:

Generally in the movies Aliens are always being depicted as wanting our "resources" when the reality as it appears is that those resources are plentiful across the galaxy.

They could be interested in specific resources that are only available on Earth. Courgettes or Mangoes for example.

Or the mobile, protein-rich meat sacks if you believe Starship Troopers.

Kilgore · July 2023

Hurling_Fruitmig said:

Kilgore said:

Simonh said:

Generally in the movies Aliens are always being depicted as wanting our "resources" when the reality as it appears is that those resources are plentiful across the galaxy.

They could be interested in specific resources that are only available on Earth. Courgettes or Mangoes for example.

Or the mobile, protein-rich meat sacks if you believe Starship Troopers.

That's where the mangoes come in. They makes a refreshing salsa to go with the meat.

RandallFlagg · July 2023

Pinch me, am I dreaming? Actual grown men are debating UFOs in a US Congress hearing where "the whiste blower" David Grusch has been asked if anyone has been murdered in an attempt to cover up the UFO secrets.

So, was Men In Black a documentary?

UFO hearing key takeaways: cover-up claims and Pentagon denials | UFOs | The Guardian

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