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  • brownovichbrownovich Frets: 417
    pmbomb said:
    hyperben said:
    Ok so the second R8 arrived. It was described by GG as "figured top washed cherry". Even though it was a lucky dip I thought what the hell, it's a figured top R8 for £2499 - what can go wrong!? Much to my surprise when I opened the box it was the plainest of plain tops. I contacted GG about it and after a few hours they got back to me and told me that it is still a figured top even though it is plain... Am I completely misunderstanding what a figured top is or are they spinning me a load of ****?
    you bought 2, when demand is through the roof and some people stretching their budgets are being turned down?

    limited sympathy.

    send it back if not happy, write it off to karma with good grace.
    I agree this is harsh. If it was sold to him as a figured top then he has every right to expect that. He’s paid his money & that’s up to him

    Karma? Sounds more like envy is at work here...
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  • WezVWezV Frets: 15793
    edited August 2018
    Is it a plain top if you can see wood grain? What does figured mean?
    Figured means there is some deviation to the grain creating the hologram effect of flames or quilting.  Plain straight grained maple doesn’t have it.

    why does it cost more?  Only 1 in a 1000* trees have the desireable figuring.

    *varies by type of figure, species and climate... but I have seen these numbers quoted for flamed maple.  
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  • dbphotodbphoto Frets: 716
    GG listed all of their 58’s as ‘figured’, which is nonsense.

    They also listed them as having 58 profile necks, which yet again is nonsense.
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  • HarrySevenHarrySeven Frets: 7650

    In a weirdly perverse way, I'm kind-of loving the fact that while you lot are fannying about drooling over R8's, I'm all excited about these... ;)




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  • meltedbuzzboxmeltedbuzzbox Frets: 10333
    I know this might be a crazy notion but surely how it plays/feels/sounds should be the most important things?
    The Bigsby was the first successful design of what is now called a whammy bar or tremolo arm, although vibrato is the technically correct term for the musical effect it produces. In standard usage, tremolo is a rapid fluctuation of the volume of a note, while vibrato is a fluctuation in pitch. The origin of this nonstandard usage of the term by electric guitarists is attributed to Leo Fender, who also used the term “vibrato” to refer to what is really a tremolo effect.
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  • hyperbenhyperben Frets: 1399
    edited August 2018
    “Figured top” R8 

    https://imgur.com/gallery/iYL6DoS
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  • robertyroberty Frets: 10231
    meltedbuzzbox said:
    I know this might be a crazy notion but surely how it plays/feels/sounds should be the most important things?
    If that was important we wouldn't be playing Gibsons ;)
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  • underdogunderdog Frets: 8334
    hyperben said:
    “Figured top” R8 

    https://imgur.com/gallery/iYL6DoS

    Yeah that's a plain top, no argument can be made for it being figured. Though I do like it, but can appreciate that if you wanted figured then you would be disappointed.
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  • meltedbuzzboxmeltedbuzzbox Frets: 10333
    hyperben said:
    “Figured top” R8 

    https://imgur.com/gallery/iYL6DoS
    I am not a fan of the colour (personal thing) but I like the grain of the wood. I wouldn't be so upset with that provided it played well and sounded good (to be fair a pickup swap is easy enough if the sound isn't there)
    The Bigsby was the first successful design of what is now called a whammy bar or tremolo arm, although vibrato is the technically correct term for the musical effect it produces. In standard usage, tremolo is a rapid fluctuation of the volume of a note, while vibrato is a fluctuation in pitch. The origin of this nonstandard usage of the term by electric guitarists is attributed to Leo Fender, who also used the term “vibrato” to refer to what is really a tremolo effect.
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  • RMJRMJ Frets: 1273
    hyperben said:
    “Figured top” R8 

    https://imgur.com/gallery/iYL6DoS
    They're having anlaugh
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  • koss59koss59 Frets: 779
    meltedbuzzbox said:
    I know this might be a crazy notion but surely how it plays/feels/sounds should be the most important things?

    I wouldn’t have said so if you buy from the internet without trying first.
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  • pmbombpmbomb Frets: 1169
    brownovich said:
    pmbomb said:
    hyperben said:
    Ok so the second R8 arrived. It was described by GG as "figured top washed cherry". Even though it was a lucky dip I thought what the hell, it's a figured top R8 for £2499 - what can go wrong!? Much to my surprise when I opened the box it was the plainest of plain tops. I contacted GG about it and after a few hours they got back to me and told me that it is still a figured top even though it is plain... Am I completely misunderstanding what a figured top is or are they spinning me a load of ****?
    you bought 2, when demand is through the roof and some people stretching their budgets are being turned down?

    limited sympathy.

    send it back if not happy, write it off to karma with good grace.
    I agree this is harsh. If it was sold to him as a figured top then he has every right to expect that. He’s paid his money & that’s up to him

    Karma? Sounds more like envy is at work here...
    nope, I've not ordered, or tried, and am pleased for everyone who's happy.
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  • meltedbuzzboxmeltedbuzzbox Frets: 10333
    koss59 said:
    meltedbuzzbox said:
    I know this might be a crazy notion but surely how it plays/feels/sounds should be the most important things?

    I wouldn’t have said so if you buy from the internet without trying first.
    I wouldn't disagree. 

    The Bigsby was the first successful design of what is now called a whammy bar or tremolo arm, although vibrato is the technically correct term for the musical effect it produces. In standard usage, tremolo is a rapid fluctuation of the volume of a note, while vibrato is a fluctuation in pitch. The origin of this nonstandard usage of the term by electric guitarists is attributed to Leo Fender, who also used the term “vibrato” to refer to what is really a tremolo effect.
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  • TwinfanTwinfan Frets: 1624
    hyperben said:
    “Figured top” R8 

    https://imgur.com/gallery/iYL6DoS

    Not figured, if you're not happy send it back.  No way they can dispute a refund based on the description given by them.
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  • BloodEagleBloodEagle Frets: 5307
    The thread that keeps on giving takes another dramatic turn
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  • AdamskiAdamski Frets: 1271
    edited August 2018
    Here’s mine, can’t believe I’ve gotta wait a week to pick her up! 





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  • pmbombpmbomb Frets: 1169
    Adamski said:
    Here’s mine, can’t believe I’ve gotta wait a week to pick her up! 



    that's quite white. was it described as "figured" ;-)
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  • koss59koss59 Frets: 779
    edited August 2018
    koss59 said:
    I know this might be a crazy notion but surely how it plays/feels/sounds should be the most important things?

    I wouldn’t have said so if you buy from the internet without trying first.
    I wouldn't disagree. 

    Each to their own.
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  • Jonathanthomas83Jonathanthomas83 Frets: 3432
    edited August 2018

    WezV said:
    Is it a plain top if you can see wood grain? What does figured mean?
    Figured means there is some deviation to the grain creating the hologram effect of flames or quilting.  Plain straight grained maple doesn’t have it.

    why does it cost more?  Only 1 in a 1000* trees have the desireable figuring.

    *varies by type of figure, species and climate... but I have seen these numbers quoted for flamed maple.  
    This is perfect, thank you mate! Mine's plain top then, exactly what I wanted!
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  • WhitecatWhitecat Frets: 5078
    hyperben said:
    “Figured top” R8 

    https://imgur.com/gallery/iYL6DoS
    I guess they figured you’d fall for it..
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  • hyperbenhyperben Frets: 1399
    pmbomb said:
    hyperben said:
    Ok so the second R8 arrived. It was described by GG as "figured top washed cherry". Even though it was a lucky dip I thought what the hell, it's a figured top R8 for £2499 - what can go wrong!? Much to my surprise when I opened the box it was the plainest of plain tops. I contacted GG about it and after a few hours they got back to me and told me that it is still a figured top even though it is plain... Am I completely misunderstanding what a figured top is or are they spinning me a load of ****?
    you bought 2, when demand is through the roof and some people stretching their budgets are being turned down?

    limited sympathy.

    send it back if not happy, write it off to karma with good grace.
    I’m not after sympathy. I just want to know if I’m misunderstanding what figured top means or not. By the sound of things it was misadvertised.
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  • Panama_Jack666Panama_Jack666 Frets: 2977
    hyperben said:
    “Figured top” R8 

    https://imgur.com/gallery/iYL6DoS
    Yeah, very similar to mine - although I was hoping for plain top so it's sort of worked out for me! 

    14 day return policy so maybe think it over. I very much doubt they would dispute it! 
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  • Fifty9Fifty9 Frets: 459
    Adamski said:
    Here’s mine, can’t believe I’ve gotta wait a week to pick her up! 





    Fantastic!
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  • WezVWezV Frets: 15793
    hyperben said:
    “Figured top” R8 

    https://imgur.com/gallery/iYL6DoS
    Nope.  Nice, but not figured in any way.  It doesn’t even have strong grain lines.
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  • gringopiggringopig Frets: 2648
    edited July 2020
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  • Jonathanthomas83Jonathanthomas83 Frets: 3432
    I've started a poll via a VERY quick google form...should take you two seconds to answer. Cheers!


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  • hyperbenhyperben Frets: 1399
    Thanks everyone, it’s going back tomorrow  :)
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  • BrizeBrize Frets: 5511
    hyperben said:

    I’m not after sympathy. I just want to know if I’m misunderstanding what figured top means or not. By the sound of things it was misadvertised.
    It was - they're bullshiting you. Personally, though, I think it looks fantastic.
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  • LegionreturnsLegionreturns Frets: 7962
    Jonathanthomas83 said:
    I've started a poll via a VERY quick google form...should take you two seconds to answer. Cheers!


    Done. Good idea 

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  • hyperbenhyperben Frets: 1399
    It is a pretty R8 for sure, but for £2499 I need to be 100%. There’ll be another washed cherry for sale at GG shortly. 
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