Should we get rid of Facepalms?

Fretwired · September 2013

guitarfishbay said:

Fretwired said:

BigPaulie said:

Keep facepalms, but stop them being anonymous. Then people will have to stand by their gestures instead of hiding and sniping at someone they've had a run-in with on an entirely unrelated subject.

It happens.

I'm not bothered about facepalms but I tend to agree with BigPaulie - it would be nice to know what you got one for. I think the wisdoms are useful. They had a similar system on the Line 6 forums a few years ago and it was useful as you could see/reward the knowledgeable people who are happy to help and answer technical guitar-related issues.

I just noticed I got a facepalm for what I thought was a well reasoned post. Disappointing.

I put up a live performance of Freebird and got a facepalm ... nobody has any taste.

ROOG · September 2013

Confuses the hell out of me, since the first one, I have no idea how I've got what I've got or if there is some sinister unseen reason to fear the consequences of the collection of badges or was that Badgers?.

All seems like good clean harmless fun, Isn't it?

frankus · September 2013

I can't facepalm myself - I find this incredibly ironic given it is an act performed on ones self...

hi five, team frank ... go me.

Lixarto · September 2013

I got a facepalm for saying I didn't like the Winery Dogs or whatever they're called.

guitarfishbay · September 2013

I get that the intention of facepalms are for when someone has a Homer Simpson style 'Do'h!' moment, and they're appropriate for that. I've seen a few posts though where someone is just stating an opinion and have been facepalmed. I don't see how it helps debate in those situations.

Personally I don't use rep systems on any boards, I just post.

However, I think the fact that facepalms mean you get a negative fret means that they pretty much equate to a neg rep in my eyes, which works for some posts but is a bit disappointing for others when they're actually funny posts. A facepalm could legitimately be given to someone who is just being a clown for a laugh, in which case a LOL would also work and not give a negative fret score. A facepalm used against someone being a dick should really just be a flagged post. A facepalm because of disagreeing doesn't seem the right use of the button, surely a reply/counter post is a better choice there.

Because of the fact it could mean either/or I think it just makes it confusing. I'd prefer a proper positive/negative rep system whereby you can see who is usually helpful and who is a douche (even those systems are prone to being rigged by popularity) or just keep a positive only reaction system and keep flag available for posts that are out of line.

FWIW I think LOL/WOW/Wisdom are actually good distinctions to make if we're keeping the system.

ddlooping · September 2013

Facepalms are totally useless! There, I said it (again).

Change it to a "Thanks" button. :P

randomhandclaps · September 2013

@guitarfishbay & @ddlooping

^ Good points and I tend to agree ^

There was probably a good reason that Facebook decide to stick with just 'Like'.

Just don't change it to 'oh no you di'int', please.

ddlooping · September 2013

guitarfishbay said:

However, I think the fact that facepalms mean you get a negative fret...

That should change very soon.

monquixote · September 2013

Code changes have been made.

It will be rolled out soon.

fretmeister · September 2013

I want to facepalm facepalms. Can I do that?

viz · September 2013

I used to hate facepalms but I've grown fond of them.

monquixote · September 2013

I think a lot of people have a bit of a shit fit when they get their first one and then once they have a load of them they cease to care.

They absolutely shouldn't count against fret score so that's being fixed.

viz · September 2013

Ooooo how exciting! Retrospectively? Wow i'm going to like double my score!

monquixote · September 2013

viz said:

Ooooo how exciting! Retrospectively? Wow i'm going to like double my score!

It is a change to the way the score is displayed so it will be retrospective.

viz · September 2013

Great! Not saying you're not clever or anything but how the hell did you amass over 1000 wisdoms?

monquixote · September 2013

It was as a result of mr Digitalscream pissing about with the database while we were testing.

I only have the badge not the actual score mind.

viz · September 2013

Ah!! Crafty old sod. Yep - i thought it must start again at zero after 999 but that makes more sense.

viz · September 2013

So in fact ICBM is the only dude apart from you 5 cheats who has reached the 100 wisdom mark - that makes sense.

monquixote · September 2013

Nope I have a genuine 140 wisdoms.

Sporky also has 140 and Tony and DS are not far off 100.

viz · September 2013

ok let you off

141.

Rocker · September 2013

Just testing, testing one two three.....

johnnyurq · September 2013

ROOG said:

Confuses the hell out of me, since the first one, I have no idea how I've got what I've got or if there is some sinister unseen reason to fear the consequences of the collection of badges or was that Badgers?.

All seems like good clean harmless fun, Isn't it?

Ooh please can we collect Badgers and then have a Badger Parade (copyright Harry Hill) mind you on 2nd thoughts with all the Badger culling maybe not a great idea, never mind the cow TB.

But I agree harmless fun and nonsense.

Drew_TNBD · September 2013

My wisdom cannae be countard.

koneguitarist · September 2013

thumpingrug said:

bigjon said:

monquixote said:

If the consensus is yes then we will remove it and replace it with . . . "Agree" button.

This gets my vote

And mine

and mine !

shobet · October 2013

Being new here it was a bit odd seeing my fret score going up and down, it wasn't until I noticed that my profile had various rankings that seem to be related to the different 'ratings' at the bottom of each comment that I realised what was going on. You can't even find out what has been clicked on your posts without looking through the lot of them.

I don't believe it's being used to rank users in any meaningful way and it's open to abuse as there's no transparency unless your'e a moderator. So I'm just going to ignore the fret score altogether as it really does not provide me with any meaningful data.

So all in all the facepalms and other ratings all seem a bit arbitrary to me. It's just fluff.

thumpingrug · October 2013

shobet said:

Being new here it was a bit odd seeing my fret score going up and down, it wasn't until I noticed that my profile had various rankings that seem to be related to the different 'ratings' at the bottom of each comment that I realised what was going on. You can't even find out what has been clicked on your posts without looking through the lot of them.

I don't believe it's being used to rank users in any meaningful way and it's open to abuse as there's no transparency unless your'e a moderator. So I'm just going to ignore the fret score altogether as it really does not provide me with any meaningful data.

So all in all the facepalms and other ratings all seem a bit arbitrary to me. It's just fluff.

Deserves a wisdom. Shazam!

Jalapeno · October 2013

shobet said:

Being new here it was a bit odd seeing my fret score going up and down, it wasn't until I noticed that my profile had various rankings that seem to be related to the different 'ratings' at the bottom of each comment that I realised what was going on. You can't even find out what has been clicked on your posts without looking through the lot of them.

I don't believe it's being used to rank users in any meaningful way and it's open to abuse as there's no transparency unless your'e a moderator. So I'm just going to ignore the fret score altogether as it really does not provide me with any meaningful data.

So all in all the facepalms and other ratings all seem a bit arbitrary to me. It's just fluff.

Us Mods can't see anything either, so don't have a pop at us. Only the Devs hacking the database can see anything.

Hertz32 · October 2013

koneguitarist said:

thumpingrug said:

bigjon said:

monquixote said:

If the consensus is yes then we will remove it and replace it with . . . "Agree" button.

This gets my vote

And mine

and mine !

And mine.

viz · October 2013

Hertz32 said:

koneguitarist said:

thumpingrug said:

bigjon said:

monquixote said:

If the consensus is yes then we will remove it and replace it with . . . "Agree" button.

This gets my vote

And mine

and mine !

And mine.

and mine.

Handsome_Chris · October 2013

viz said:

Hertz32 said:

koneguitarist said:

thumpingrug said:

bigjon said:

monquixote said:

If the consensus is yes then we will remove it and replace it with . . . "Agree" button.

This gets my vote

And mine

and mine !

And mine.

and mine.

Does that mean all my FaPs become Agrees?

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