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I meant April. ~ Simon Weir
Bit of trading feedback here.
He's a comedian with a YouTube channel, give your heads a wobble.
Though I was already on the I-hate-Brand-bandwagon. He may be an even bigger arsehole than I thought. I want to see a court case - even a civil one, like Trump vs Carroll.
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I understand why the women involved could've waited, but many others just seem to fall inside the 'we always knew he was dodgy' bracket.
If he's a cunt then he's a cunt, lots of people in life are, especially in celebrity, high-end business and political circles. But whether he's a rapist is an altogether different question.
But.
Just go to the police. Help them build a case, encourage who has spread the rumour to do the same. The Theroux interview was post Savile, Operation Yew Tree was in full swing and yet she didn't report this one?
Why not?
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67,169 rapes were recorded by police in 2022. By the end of the year, charges had been brought in just 1,276 (1.9%) of these cases. This means that...Less than 2 in 100 rapes recorded by police in 2022 resulted in a charge that same yearLet alone a conviction.
Edit - Or maybe this https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66843086
If the person was guilty then the evidence available decides if the case progresses to a charge. The courtroom decides if the evidence convicts the person.
If we want to argue whether that's right or wrong in this country then that's for another thread. But ultimately I think we all agree that it's 'innocent until proven guilty'.
And the point made in the video is that with Russell Brand the interviewee didn't come forward because she wanted to protect her mortgage. Erm...
If I heard stories about a colleague at work grooming young girls, women colleagues being sexually harassed, I would go straight to my HR Dept and leave it with them. If I saw no change then I would take it a step further.
If I had no faith in my HR Dept I would go to the police.
What I wouldn't do is say nothing and leave it up to someone else to report
What sort of person are you @Gilly ? A 'do something about it' person or a 'shush, say nothing' person?
Or maybe a blame the victims person...
Not everything is free and fair in these scenarios, there is bias throughout the criminal justice system, and the information the CPS get can be biased, and the processes involved, like using rape testing kits can be extremely distressing for women, as well as having their phones taken off them and analysed for months. The thought of going through a whole legal case can be like a going through the rape again for them. The police force seems to have a shit load of sex pests amongst their ranks, with over a thousand Met Officers alone being investigated for sexual offences.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/sep/19/police-met-officers-suspended-or-restricted-duties?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
Many women have said that they got contacted by random officers on Facebook after they submit their accusations. This misogyny is likely to be widespread through the criminal justice system overall, just as racism is. Can you imagine the trauma of going through all of this and then you meet an officer who flirts with you, acts inappropriately, casts doubt on your story, interrogates you, the victim or just flat out blames you at the highest level? Surely you can see why you would become hesitant in this scenario or why you might try and evade it altogether.
https://refuge.org.uk/news/refuge-responds-to-senior-met-police-officers-alleged-comments-that-bulk-of-rape-reports-were-regretful-sex/
And then you're now talking about a very powerful, successful person who is setting his legal team on you, and you start to consider all those followers, all those comments casting doubt in you disparaging you. It must be very daunting to take that challenge on, or continue it.
It is can also be difficult to prove rape in lots of scenarios, especially when it happens in a domestic setting.
On a personal note, my mother worked for the women's refuge for years in the 90's and it was like the women were on their own. The authorities didn't seem to give a shit. Partners and abusers would find out where the refuge was and would come banging on the door with their mates demanding they hand the wife/girlfriend over. These women would have to leave the refuge because it was unsafe for them even there and they'd spend days on our sofa until other arrangements were made. This happened time and time again. If it wasn't for charities and services I don't know what they'd have done.
And yes, it is how EVERYBODY should act. Why the hell wouldn't you?
Worried about your mortgage like the interviewee perhaps? FFS. People like you make me sick. Sit back and do fuck all.