Controversial guitar opinions you have.

Lewy · September 2023

skunkwerx said:

Peter Green. Can't stand him or his stupid 'tone'.

An entire legacy built on being less shit at vibrato than the other white british blues hacks around at the time.

soma1975 · September 2023

Mike McReady has co-written more good songs than Noel Gallagher.

EricTheWeary · September 2023

Reverend said:

Brio said:

Just been indulging in one of my vices, watching Lynerd Skynerd perform Freebird live back in the day.
It struck me that Ronnie Van Zandt was a perfect example of the kind of singer who has to be at the front of the stage even when he is not going to sing for five minutes. Frankly embarrassing cockishness, if the guitars and basses got around him when he was singing he would be a bit miffed. He should just get a tambourine and shake it at the back. Channel his inner Linda McCartney.

used to have a singer that would walk off the side o the stage during solos. Absolute nightmare.

Their job is to be at the front.

Ian Gillan has that habit of walking off stage during solos, I don't know if he has always done it but he does now. When I did groupwork we used to talk about 'lending focus' - if you aren't busy then you look interested in what they busy people are doing. If the singer in your band looks bored with the guitar solo/finds something else more interesting it just sends the wrong message to the audience.

flying_pie · September 2023

EricTheWeary said:

Ian Gillan has that habit of walking off stage during solos, I don't know if he has always done it but he does now. When I did groupwork we used to talk about 'lending focus' - if you aren't busy then you look interested in what they busy people are doing. If the singer in your band looks bored with the guitar solo/finds something else more interesting it just sends the wrong message to the audience.

I've always viewed Bruce Dickinson and Freddie Mercury as acceptable examples of how the vocalist should behave when it's guitar solo or riff time

robmac5150 · September 2023

Fender Custom shop guitars are vastly over priced

Philly_Q · September 2023

EricTheWeary said:
Ian Gillan has that habit of walking off stage during solos, I don't know if he has always done it but he does now. When I did groupwork we used to talk about 'lending focus' - if you aren't busy then you look interested in what they busy people are doing. If the singer in your band looks bored with the guitar solo/finds something else more interesting it just sends the wrong message to the audience.

He always used to play the fucking bongos during solos, so walking off stage sounds like a distinct improvement.

ICBM · September 2023

The 'British Invasion' hollow-body guitar sounds of the early-mid 1960s are pretty shit if you actually listen to the sound and not the music. Plunky, all honky mids, no sustain, and often barely in tune.

They didn't get good until players like George Harrison started using Rickenbackers and Fenders.

hollywoodrox · September 2023

swiller said:

The next big thing for custom shops will be smellicing, by scrubbing tobacco ash and booze into the woods with a old rag. You will have options for cigar, cigarettes, whisky, wine, theakstons old peculiar and varying degrees of aged sweat.

I loved old guitar shops that smelled of cigars and had all sorts of amazing superstrats ypud never see ordinarily like roscoe, bc rich gunslingers, Jems etc

Offset · September 2023

robmac5150 said:

Fender Custom shop guitars are vastly over priced

Nothing controversial about that.

carlos · September 2023

robmac5150 said:

Fender Custom shop guitars are vastly over priced

carlos · September 2023

Forum classics, i.e., guitars that have had multiple owners among forumites have had such fortune for a reason - they probably look good enough to be bought multiple times but are actually rubbish hence returning to the classifieds over and over.

Bargain prices for used guitars are very subjective. A pile of overpriced shit might still be overpriced even after the 40% off once it's used.

theatreanchor · September 2023

Expensive guitars are a con.

EricTheWeary · September 2023

Philly_Q said:

EricTheWeary said:
Ian Gillan has that habit of walking off stage during solos, I don't know if he has always done it but he does now. When I did groupwork we used to talk about 'lending focus' - if you aren't busy then you look interested in what they busy people are doing. If the singer in your band looks bored with the guitar solo/finds something else more interesting it just sends the wrong message to the audience.

He always used to play the fucking bongos during solos, so walking off stage sounds like a distinct improvement.

I saw him fronting Gillan forty years ago and my memory of it was a lot of bongo playing. Also two young women in bikinis on stage at various points for non musical reasons. They were different times ya da ya da...

Cranky · September 2023

ICBM said:

The 'British Invasion' hollow-body guitar sounds of the early-mid 1960s are pretty shit if you actually listen to the sound and not the music. Plunky, all honky mids, no sustain, and often barely in tune.

They didn't get good until players like George Harrison started using Rickenbackers and Fenders.

Is this a shot at the Casino?

ICBM · September 2023

Cranky said:

Is this a shot at the Casino?

No, they didn't use Casinos until later. I mean things like George's Gretsch sound in the early Beatles - and many others from around that time - it does fit the songs up to a point, but it's a crap sound really.

Rhl87Rhl · September 2023

Thin/medium picks have better tone….thick picks are like hitting it with a brick

guyinlyon · September 2023

soma1975 said:

guyinlyon said:

soma1975 said:

The usage predates WW2 by many decades in the UK and was used purely as an abbreviation...

And we all know that prior to WW2 there was no prejudice in the world.

What does that have to do with anything?

It wasn't used "purely as an abbreviation" prior to WW2.

guyinlyon · September 2023

Tannin said:
In fact Australia has welcomed vast numbers of non-white immigrants...

Guess you didn't bother to actually read the referenced piece on Australia's long-standing "whites only" immigration policy.

"From the 1850s colonial governments imposed restrictions on family members joining Chinese miners already in Australia. The colonial authorities levied a special tax on Chinese immigrants and from which other immigrants were exempted. Towards the end of the 19th century, labour unions pushed to stop Chinese immigrants working in the furniture and market garden industries."

"Soon after Australia became a federation in January 1901, the federal government of Edmund Barton passed the Immigration Restriction Act of 1901; this was drafted by Alfred Deakin, who would eventually become Australia's second Prime Minister. The passage of this bill marked the commencement of the White Australia Policy as Australian federal government policy. Subsequent acts further strengthened the policy up to the start of World War II. These policies effectively gave British migrants preference over all others through the first four decades of the 20th century. During World War II, Prime Minister John Curtin reinforced the policy, saying "This country shall remain forever the home of the descendants of those people who came here in peace in order to establish in the South Seas an outpost of the British race."

The only one clueless, or perhaps with his head in the sand, seems to be you.

Mattharrier · September 2023

Lewy said:

Peter Green wasn't all that.

The finest guitar solo of the 20th century was Louis Shelton's solo on "Hello" by Lionel Ritchie

You virtually never come across a good slide guitar player who can't also sing.

For some reason I made it to page 3 of this thread, and saw your post. Although I've heard "Hello" dozens, if not hundreds of times in my life, it's always been on the radio, in a shop or whatever. I went to YT and gave it a listen, and I very much like it.

I don't think I'd say it's the finest solo, but it is very pleasant sounding. And sounds like something that isn't too far beyond my grasp (I've no doubt that if I actually try it, it will be a long way beyond my abilities, but it sounds like I could give it a go).

GoFish · September 2023

It's a good solo - the best bit of the song, imo. No mean feat when it's an afterthought. Though Ritchie was also present for "Easy" so maybe I'm underplaying his appreciation of a groovin guitar solo?

hollywoodrox · September 2023

What about “Jap” cakes I’ve not had one for a while as not been to a proper cake shop and all these chain cake shops don’t do all the traditional ones , we’re these only local to Torbay or have others had them , they’re small sponge cakes with covered and containing flavoured cream and covered in sprinkles and in various flavours . I am particularly partial to a coffee jap I’ve only seen them in Devon . Cakes of the gods . Picture not very good above but these are the best representation on what I used to buy from the shop

Brio · September 2023

Tortoiseshell pick guards are the guitar world's equivalent to tan sidewalls on mountain bike tyres.

soma1975 · September 2023

Mountain bikes are the equivalent of quilted top PRSs.

Brio · September 2023

Trust me, mine aren't - more like a Gear4music budget twin neck telecaster...

Lewy · September 2023

Mattharrier said:

Lewy said:

Peter Green wasn't all that.

The finest guitar solo of the 20th century was Louis Shelton's solo on "Hello" by Lionel Ritchie

You virtually never come across a good slide guitar player who can't also sing.

For some reason I made it to page 3 of this thread, and saw your post. Although I've heard "Hello" dozens, if not hundreds of times in my life, it's always been on the radio, in a shop or whatever. I went to YT and gave it a listen, and I very much like it.

I don't think I'd say it's the finest solo, but it is very pleasant sounding. And sounds like something that isn't too far beyond my grasp (I've no doubt that if I actually try it, it will be a long way beyond my abilities, but it sounds like I could give it a go).

You should give it a go! If you search Louis Shelton hello solo on Youtube you'll find a video of the man himself doing it. He's also the man who came up with the catchy rhythm guitar part on "I Want You Back" by the Jackson 5. Absolute monster of a studio guitarist.

kin · September 2023

Sorry if i missed someone else making the same point , it's a long thread but.....cover bands consisting of bankers, financial advisors, upper middle management types etc playing Clash and Jam tunes or Stevie Wonders 'living for the city' through wood library PRs and two rocks.

Brio · September 2023

What about them? You just identify a group without mentioning what the controversial opinion is.

kin · September 2023

Brio said:

What about them? You just identify a group without mentioning what the controversial opinion is.

It seems incongruous and also embarrassingly wanky, what do you you think? Or do your have to schedule a meeting with your MD in the morning before having a band meeting to decide which Cold play tune your going to start next weeks set with?

TTBZ · September 2023

soma1975 said:

Mountain bikes are the equivalent of quilted top PRSs.

You mean road bikes. Especially those rank seafoam green Bianchis and the like.

notsopro · September 2023

kin said:

Brio said:

What about them? You just identify a group without mentioning what the controversial opinion is.

It seems incongruous and also embarrassingly wanky, what do you you think? Or do your have to schedule a meeting with your MD in the morning before having a band meeting to decide which Cold play tune your going to start next weeks set with?

ahhhh they got you there, imagine being silly enough to point out the fact they hadn't actually given an opinion, bet you feel pretty daft now...

my controversial opinion, there's a few too many 'gatekeepers' in the guitar world these days...

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