Controversial guitar opinions you have.

soma1975 · August 2023

A place for them all to be stored. Not a place for getting grumpy with each other. Just a bit of fun to list those opinions you have formed that might have other people raging.

I'll get us goint.

1) It's not a Stratocaster unless is has 3 x single coils. An HSS guitar is another thing entirely.
2) 99% of drive pedals can be made to sound the same.
3) Pedals that on purpose sound broken and cheap shouldn't be more expensive.
4) Playing Nirvana on a Suhr is the sign of a wrongun.

AndyGT75 · August 2023

I don’t like PRS guitars. I hate the look of them and never played one that felt like anything worth the price tag. I know that people rave about them, but they’re just not for me. I get disparaging looks whenever I mention it to guitar pals so Perhaps I’m in the wrong lol. I also hate any Strat copy that isn’t a fender because without the Fender headstock it just looks wrong.

sev112 · August 2023

Humidity and temperature of the room you are in affects “tone” much more than the guitar, the wood, the effects and the amp.

guitarjack66 · August 2023

I'm happy when people say 'It has to be a Fender/Gibson' etc as it gives those of us at the bottom end of the market access to quality guitars at budget prices.

TDubs · August 2023

Essex recording studios has done more for the guitar industry than Leo Fender & Les Paul combined

floeighty2 · August 2023

That Ian Elson is just ahead of his time.

Tannin · August 2023

None of my opinions are controversial. It's just that people don't agree with them.

stratman3142 · August 2023

soma1975 said:

A place for them all to be stored. Not a place for getting grumpy with each other. Just a bit of fun to list those opinions you have formed that might have other people raging.

I'll get us goint.

1) It's not a Stratocaster unless is has 3 x single coils. An HSS guitar is another thing entirely...

I'll have to stop you there

My Ibanez HSS AZ2204 sounds more like my idea of a Strat than my Fender Strats.
My best sounding Fender Strat is my HSS Strat
My Strat Plus (SSS) with gold lace sensors sounds the least Stratty
The neck pickup on my Fender Tele Professional sounds more Stratty than my Fender Strats

soma1975 said:

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4) Playing Nirvana on a Suhr is the sign of a wrongun.

And furthermore

I play 'Smells Like Tean Spirit' live on my (Suhr like) Ibanez AZ2204

tony99 · August 2023

Tone comes from the strings and nothing else

AndyGT75 · August 2023

Buying expensive gear doesn’t make you sound any better. I get tired of ads on JMB and Bandmix that say ‘Must have pro level gear’. I’ve played with loads of people that have horrendously expensive guitars, basses and amps and they’ve still been crap. Learn your craft first and don’t expect to be able to buy talent and ability off the shelf at PMT.

theatreanchor · August 2023

Relics are a good idea.

Habanero · August 2023

Surely a guitar with some dings could be described as ‘lightly relic’d’?

stratman3142 · August 2023

I like shiny, brand new, unblemished guitars.

Bennyboy-UK · August 2023

The price of any guitar gear new or used would be better spent on paying for quality lessons.

The time used in forum posting would better spent on structured practice.

Bellycaster · August 2023

I don't like Flame Maple tops anymore. This is awkward as one of my best Guitars is a EVH Wolfgang with flame maple top. I guess the fact that it's purple tones down the flame a little.

I'd much rather have a Plain Top Les Paul as well, or a solid colour one.

I appreciate that it is nice figuring and that some people like Flame and Quilt tops, but I would never go for one now.

scrumhalf · August 2023

As technology has improved the music hasn't.

There are too many entirely unnecessary pedals on the market these days.

soma1975 · August 2023

stratman3142 said:

soma1975 said:

A place for them all to be stored. Not a place for getting grumpy with each other. Just a bit of fun to list those opinions you have formed that might have other people raging.

I'll get us goint.

1) It's not a Stratocaster unless is has 3 x single coils. An HSS guitar is another thing entirely...

I'll have to stop you there

My Ibanez HSS AZ2204 sounds more like my idea of a Strat than my Fender Strats.
My best sounding Fender Strat is my HSS Strat
My Strat Plus (SSS) with gold lace sensors sounds the least Stratty
The neck pickup on my Fender Tele Professional sounds more Stratty than my Fender Strats

soma1975 said:

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4) Playing Nirvana on a Suhr is the sign of a wrongun.

And furthermore

I play 'Smells Like Tean Spirit' live on my (Suhr like) Ibanez AZ2204

You are history's greatest monster.

Also

5) Lace Sensors aren't real single coil strat pickups.

stonevibe · August 2023

I always think of Rickenbackers as 'Fanny Jangle Boxes'

stratman3142 · August 2023

soma1975 said:

stratman3142 said:

...

You are history's greatest monster.

Also

5) Lace Sensors aren't real single coil strat pickups.

Well we can agree on that point. As someone who picked up my Strat Plus once said: "Nice guitar", "sounds good", "but it doesn't sound like a Strat"

Keefy · August 2023

AndyGT75 said:

Buying expensive gear doesn’t make you sound any better. I get tired of ads on JMB and Bandmix that say ‘Must have pro level gear’. I’ve played with loads of people that have horrendously expensive guitars, basses and amps and they’ve still been crap. Learn your craft first and don’t expect to be able to buy talent and ability off the shelf at PMT.

I don’t recall seeing any ads on those sites that made that sort of requirement. It’s also a moot point exactly what qualifies as ‘pro level’ gear…

AndyGT75 · August 2023

Keefy said:

AndyGT75 said:

Buying expensive gear doesn’t make you sound any better. I get tired of ads on JMB and Bandmix that say ‘Must have pro level gear’. I’ve played with loads of people that have horrendously expensive guitars, basses and amps and they’ve still been crap. Learn your craft first and don’t expect to be able to buy talent and ability off the shelf at PMT.

I don’t recall seeing any ads on those sites that made that sort of requirement. It’s also a moot point exactly what qualifies as ‘pro level’ gear…

Well, I’ve seen loads of ads demanding top quality
kit - otherwise I wouldn’t have mentioned it. It annoys me and I ignore anyone who places that as a top priority. And as you say, what exactly is pro level gear. A big name? Something costing more than 2 grand? Who knows.

flying_pie · August 2023

Guitar is a shit instrument and guitarists are all aresholes

The future of good music is the accordion

munckee · August 2023

Bellycaster said:

I don't like Flame Maple tops anymore. This is awkward as one of my best Guitars is a EVH Wolfgang with flame maple top. I guess the fact that it's purple tones down the flame a little.

I'd much rather have a Plain Top Les Paul as well, or a solid colour one.

I appreciate that it is nice figuring and that some people like Flame and Quilt tops, but I would never go for one now.

Anything with flaming should just be burned.

dazzajl · August 2023

Bennyboy-UK said:

The price of any guitar gear new or used would be better spent on paying for quality lessons.

The time used in forum posting would better spent on structured practice.

Bloody heretic!!

Don’t be coming round here with your sensible facts and logic based comments

Teyeplayer · August 2023

1) The strat bridge pickup is a total waste of space and significant design flaw.

2) Hillsong endorsements have done more to ruin great gear than any other artist, band or genre of music.

3) PRS = nu metal.

There you go, anyone getting tetchy?

Keefy · August 2023

AndyGT75 said:

Keefy said:

AndyGT75 said:

Buying expensive gear doesn’t make you sound any better. I get tired of ads on JMB and Bandmix that say ‘Must have pro level gear’. I’ve played with loads of people that have horrendously expensive guitars, basses and amps and they’ve still been crap. Learn your craft first and don’t expect to be able to buy talent and ability off the shelf at PMT.

I don’t recall seeing any ads on those sites that made that sort of requirement. It’s also a moot point exactly what qualifies as ‘pro level’ gear…

Well, I’ve seen loads of ads demanding top quality
kit - otherwise I wouldn’t have mentioned it. It annoys me and I ignore anyone who places that as a top priority. And as you say, what exactly is pro level gear. A big name? Something costing more than 2 grand? Who knows.

I wonder now whether I’ve seen them but just skimmed past that part, on the basis that I was confident my kit was up to it.

I can only think of one occasion on which the kit that someone brought to an audition contributed to a decision not to have them in the band. That was when a prospective bass player turned up with a powered monitor that was clearly completely unsuitable for amplifying a bass guitar at gig levels - and it turned out he’d borrowed that from his girlfriend’s dad. He was adamant that it would be fine. Really? Next!

imalrightjack · August 2023

Fenders and Gibsons are for sad old bastards who are stuck in the past. And they're clearly not as well made as many, many other companies.

stratman3142 · August 2023

Teyeplayer said:

1) The strat bridge pickup is a total waste of space and significant design flaw.
...

Not if it's a humbucker.

Who's going to break first and get tetchy?

soma1975 · August 2023

stratman3142 said:

Teyeplayer said:

1) The strat bridge pickup is a total waste of space and significant design flaw.
...

Not if it's a humbucker.

Who's going to break first and get tetchy?

And you call yourself a stratman...

AndyGT75 · August 2023

Keefy said:

AndyGT75 said:

Keefy said:

AndyGT75 said:

Buying expensive gear doesn’t make you sound any better. I get tired of ads on JMB and Bandmix that say ‘Must have pro level gear’. I’ve played with loads of people that have horrendously expensive guitars, basses and amps and they’ve still been crap. Learn your craft first and don’t expect to be able to buy talent and ability off the shelf at PMT.

I don’t recall seeing any ads on those sites that made that sort of requirement. It’s also a moot point exactly what qualifies as ‘pro level’ gear…

Well, I’ve seen loads of ads demanding top quality
kit - otherwise I wouldn’t have mentioned it. It annoys me and I ignore anyone who places that as a top priority. And as you say, what exactly is pro level gear. A big name? Something costing more than 2 grand? Who knows.

I wonder now whether I’ve seen them but just skimmed past that part, on the basis that I was confident my kit was up to it.

I can only think of one occasion on which the kit that someone brought to an audition contributed to a decision not to have them in the band. That was when a prospective bass player turned up with a powered monitor that was clearly completely unsuitable for amplifying a bass guitar at gig levels - and it turned out he’d borrowed that from his girlfriend’s dad. He was adamant that it would be fine. Really? Next!

I’ve seen it a few times. Someone starts playing, has disposal income and buys a Marshall stack and expensive US Fender but still sounds awful. I played in a band with a guy that would be really nasty about other band members equipment and espouse that his pickups cost more than a lot of guitars, etc, but was an awful guitarist. Really shrill and thumped the crap out of it. I have all the ‘pro level
gear’ I guess, but I don’t think that it’s the be all and end all. I turned down a bassist recently that messaged me on JMB because he harped on about his rig and what he expected everyone else to bring along. I replied with ‘I’m sorry but you sound above our league and we wouldn’t want to disappoint you’.

swiller · August 2023

Playing what is in your head/heart without thinking about it is harder than playing any solo.
The best songs are made by dicking about simply with a blank mind and often by technically rubbish guitarists.
99% of guitar solos are the guitarist showing off skills and nothing to do with emotional development of the listener.
Most guitarists sound the same and play the same style and chase the same sound.
When you hit 50 you will GAS for a flying v or explorer having detested the image in your teens/twenties.
Tele headstocks are the worst looking ever and look like a mis shaped sausage on the end of a guitar.

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