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guitars4you · May 2023

joneve said:

Deadman said:

joneve said:

Derby bottling the playoffs on the final day has been a highlight of my day.

Who do you follow Jon? My Owl mates are annoyed at losing to FGR now!

Nottingham Forest mate. Hope Wednesday go up to be fair.

Yes that has ruined Derby's dream of a promotion for them and relegation for you and me - We might be enemies but we share a common enemy as well

To be fair I wanted them to get to the play offs - Get to Wembley then fail - Hurts more !!!!!!!!!!

guitars4you · May 2023

sev112 said:

TeleMaster said:

COYI!!!!

God yeah, I have zero fingernails left now
and I still disagree that 37 is guaranteed enough. Our games in hand have gone now.

but I was not expecting a win today, perhaps a draw . So that is a fab bonus and I though our front 5 were excellent

ive been dreading needing points against Leicester and Leeds who would want points too

Mathematically 37 might not be safe, but looking at other fixtures and form then it would not surprise if 33/34 points gets you safe now - A win for Soton today and suddenly they are not as down as many state

sev112 · May 2023

Yes, I do believe one of those bottom teams could win 3 when they need to and others don’t . Then I could see one more of them winning 2 and then going to the last game when we all play each other.

Always stressful following West Ham

DrCornelius · May 2023

Everton playing like world beaters . Let’s hope they play this well next week too

RaymondLin · May 2023

I didn’t see this coming, will see what the 2nd half brings.

thecolourbox · May 2023

Strangely really pleased to see my team West Brom lose today against Swansea, and to lose out on the playoffs (wouldn't have made it anyway as Sunderland won). I was especially pleased to see them bottle it twice, being 0-1, then 1-2, then for the ultimate finale, pissing it straight up the wall by losing 3-2. Bunch of absolute clowns from top to bottom in that club and really only the manager, keeper, and a few midfielders I'd be happy to see at the club again in August. Sadly a clearout isn't really possible because who is going to want those players?

I'm hoping for some good teams to come down and come up into the championship for next season, in the hope that we at least see some good football for a change, whilst on the road to administration. Hoping to just enjoy the matches as a football fan and not as a West Brom fan

CharlieShaw · May 2023

Glad millwall buggered it up anyway. They’ve awful to play in the playoffs away. If they lose there’s a riot if they win it’s probably due to the ref trying to avoid one! If Luton thought town fans were bad they wouldn’t have wanted to play Millwall.

TeleMaster · May 2023

CharlieShaw said:

Glad millwall buggered it up anyway. They’ve awful to play in the playoffs away. If they lose there’s a riot if they win it’s probably due to the ref trying to avoid one!

It would've been interesting to host them at the London so I'm disappointed in that regard, but happy that they also didn't get promoted.

https://twitter.com/FBAwayDays/status/1655611362507096064

thecolourbox · May 2023

Millwall were by far the worst team we played at home in the playoff mix - cynical tactics, poor on the ball, and persistently crowding around the ref or smaller players at every opportunity like little school boy bullies.

Sunderland were probably the best side in the mix that we played at home, a probably footballing team who tried to win the game and were much the more skillful side.

Good luck to all the teams involved

guitars4you · May 2023

Wow - You'd have thought Brighton were the team in the relegation zone -Everton were excellent, even electric in the first half - Brighton totally woeful and devoid of energy and ideas

and 5 goals certainly helps the much needed goal difference - Well done Everton

guitars4you · May 2023

joneve said:

Derby bottling the playoffs on the final day has been a highlight of my day.

Nipped out for a couple of beers today - Rams fans moaning about that sending off and penalty - Then a couple of fans made out they are to good for that division - I dare say Sheff Wed, Bolton and Ipswich for starters could say that - And it wasn't to long ago that Leeds and Forest were in that league - So not sure who the hell they think they are

mikeyrob73 · May 2023

Did NOT see that result coming, fully deserved possibly the best Everton performance this season. 3 big points

CharlieShaw · May 2023

You never seem to know what you’re going to get with Brighton.

CharlieShaw · May 2023

guitars4you said:

joneve said:

Derby bottling the playoffs on the final day has been a highlight of my day.

Nipped out for a couple of beers today - Rams fans moaning about that sending off and penalty - Then a couple of fans made out they are to good for that division - I dare say Sheff Wed, Bolton and Ipswich for starters could say that - And it wasn't to long ago that Leeds and Forest were in that league - So not sure who the hell they think they are

I suspect Sheff Wed fans do say that quite often. They use to say that in the championship. They’re not jokingly called ‘massive’ for nothing.

BigBearKris · May 2023

guitars4you said:

Wow - You'd have thought Brighton were the team in the relegation zone -Everton were excellent, even electric in the first half - Brighton totally woeful and devoid of energy and ideas

and 5 goals certainly helps the much needed goal difference - Well done Everton

Yes. Well done Everton and R.I.P. all my bets today

RaymondLin · May 2023

I don’t think even the most die hard Everton fan would foresee 5 goals away at Brighton today. It totally ruined 3 Brighton players I have in my FF team.

Lestratcaster · May 2023

What a round of games earlier! We need that kinda Everton vs City! (not that Brighton we saw today though).

DrCornelius · May 2023

Good game at forest tonight too - really good afternoon / evening in front of the Telly so far

mudslide73 · May 2023

thecolourbox said:

Strangely really pleased to see my team West Brom lose today against Swansea, and to lose out on the playoffs (wouldn't have made it anyway as Sunderland won). I was especially pleased to see them bottle it twice, being 0-1, then 1-2, then for the ultimate finale, pissing it straight up the wall by losing 3-2. Bunch of absolute clowns from top to bottom in that club and really only the manager, keeper, and a few midfielders I'd be happy to see at the club again in August. Sadly a clearout isn't really possible because who is going to want those players?

I'm hoping for some good teams to come down and come up into the championship for next season, in the hope that we at least see some good football for a change, whilst on the road to administration. Hoping to just enjoy the matches as a football fan and not as a West Brom fan

While there's a lot to fix I'd ask you to look at a) where we were when Carlos took over and b) the injury list. We're a pessimistic fanbase generally but you take it to a new level

Philly_Q · May 2023

mudslide73 said:

thecolourbox said:

Strangely really pleased to see my team West Brom lose today against Swansea, and to lose out on the playoffs (wouldn't have made it anyway as Sunderland won). I was especially pleased to see them bottle it twice, being 0-1, then 1-2, then for the ultimate finale, pissing it straight up the wall by losing 3-2. Bunch of absolute clowns from top to bottom in that club and really only the manager, keeper, and a few midfielders I'd be happy to see at the club again in August. Sadly a clearout isn't really possible because who is going to want those players?

I'm hoping for some good teams to come down and come up into the championship for next season, in the hope that we at least see some good football for a change, whilst on the road to administration. Hoping to just enjoy the matches as a football fan and not as a West Brom fan

While there's a lot to fix I'd ask you to look at a) where we were when Carlos took over and b) the injury list. We're a pessimistic fanbase generally but you take it to a new level

From a Swansea perspective I was just glad to end this season on a good unbeaten run. No doubt several of the better players will be off in the summer, so it could easily be a relegation battle next season.

thecolourbox · May 2023

mudslide73 said:

thecolourbox said:

Strangely really pleased to see my team West Brom lose today against Swansea, and to lose out on the playoffs (wouldn't have made it anyway as Sunderland won). I was especially pleased to see them bottle it twice, being 0-1, then 1-2, then for the ultimate finale, pissing it straight up the wall by losing 3-2. Bunch of absolute clowns from top to bottom in that club and really only the manager, keeper, and a few midfielders I'd be happy to see at the club again in August. Sadly a clearout isn't really possible because who is going to want those players?

I'm hoping for some good teams to come down and come up into the championship for next season, in the hope that we at least see some good football for a change, whilst on the road to administration. Hoping to just enjoy the matches as a football fan and not as a West Brom fan

While there's a lot to fix I'd ask you to look at a) where we were when Carlos took over and b) the injury list. We're a pessimistic fanbase generally but you take it to a new level

The position under Bruce is exactly the kind of example of how bad the club is at the moment - the fact they employed him, and kept him there that long, is proof in itself. We didn't have any injury list at that time as far as I recall, only Fragile Dike I think? The players who were capable of reaching the bottom of the league are largely the same ones who, despite several kicks up the arse from Corberan, have basically bottled it time and time again. Weak minded loser mentality throughout the club, on big wages so no motivation to go up as they'd lose their place in the team and probably try to move them on. Bunch of absolute mercenaries

guitars4you · May 2023

what a goal fest yesterday amongst the relegation zone teams - 21 goals in 3 games - Even Harland can't match that

But, that was not a penalty - Forest v Soton for Forest - If anything it is a free kick the other way - strange one that IMO

So is that it not in the relegation zone or do we still have any twists and turns - Interesting that Leeds and Leicester are now both in the relegation zone and for the record, they both went down together in 2004 - Are the stars aligned again in the same pattern ?

axisus · May 2023

Absolutely crazy at the bottom this year! Still can't tell who's going down (with Southampton)

joneve · May 2023

guitars4you said:

what a goal fest yesterday amongst the relegation zone teams - 21 goals in 3 games - Even Harland can't match that

But, that was not a penalty - Forest v Soton for Forest - If anything it is a free kick the other way - strange one that IMO

So is that it not in the relegation zone or do we still have any twists and turns - Interesting that Leeds and Leicester are now both in the relegation zone and for the record, they both went down together in 2004 - Are the stars aligned again in the same pattern ?

Was soft, but Maitland-Niles absolutely walloped the back of Johnson's foot after he got the ball. The fact he didn't know he was coming up behind him so quickly is neither here nor there. Almost balances out the non-penalty we didn't get for Maguire's blatant handball a few weeks ago...and Southampton got a really soft one too.

I think I aged about 15 years in 90 minutes last night...Fucking hell...so stressful.

Danilo is a special, special player. He's going to be vital these last 3 games.

Absolutely cacked my pants every time the ball was a Ward-Prowse's feet. Our set piece defending is absolute Sunday league. Doesn't help when you've only got one healthy RB and Joe Worrall has to step in there (although he did a fine job!). Also, as big a fan as I am of Navas (and he's our best option right now), he does seem to be having at least one howler a game which is costing us more often than not. It can't help having a revolving door of defenders due to injuries, so I do have some sympathy.

Taiwo looks back to his best after his long injury lay-off. Hopefully he terrorises Chelsea's CB's for 70 minutes again like he did in Jan. Had he stayed healthy, we'd be clear of relegation already.

VAR ruined the night by ruling Felipe's goal offside....Deserved it for the finish and the celebration alone haha.

Feeling much better about our chances with the way we've started playing like a team.

Hattigol · May 2023

Not sure of his name but a pundit on 5 Live last night suggested all 5 of the teams at the bottom should be relegated as they've all been so poor.

Thinking about it, it would add extra drama to the season end (in the Premiership and the Championship) if, in addition to the three automatic relegation slots, any team not getting 40 points went down, with extra teams coming up in their place.

axisus · May 2023

Hattigol said:

Not sure of his name but a pundit on 5 Live last night suggested all 5 of the teams at the bottom should be relegated as they've all been so poor.

Thinking about it, it would add extra drama to the season end (in the Premiership and the Championship) if, in addition to the three automatic relegation slots, any team not getting 40 points went down, with extra teams coming up in their place.

Nah, there are never 5 teams worthy of coming up! 3 up 3 down is exactly right.

guitars4you · May 2023

Hattigol said:

Not sure of his name but a pundit on 5 Live last night suggested all 5 of the teams at the bottom should be relegated as they've all been so poor.

Thinking about it, it would add extra drama to the season end (in the Premiership and the Championship) if, in addition to the three automatic relegation slots, any team not getting 40 points went down, with extra teams coming up in their place.

Inconsistent is a better phrase - yes we've had some poor games and results - But think we are the only team to win at Anfield - Should have beaten Arsenal at home and certainly did not deserve to loose - Ditto Spurs at their place - Did beat Chelsea at home and Man U only got an equaliser towards the end of the game at OT - But the points acquired and position in the league table is always correct

40 points is tough - Bournemouth don't deserve to go down with 39 points and West Ham will pull thru' and in with a chance of a European final - Not many can say that

But from Bielsa and back to Birmingham again in 3 seasons is not good - But you'll miss us if we go down - Man U v Leeds is a far more exciting proposition for many, than Man U v Coventry or Middlesborough

But if it was Robbie Savage who said it then he is a bell end anyway

thecolourbox · May 2023

I'd prefer Leeds to stay up purely so we don't have that "We're too big for this" attitude in the championship again!

guitars4you · May 2023

joneve said:

guitars4you said:

what a goal fest yesterday amongst the relegation zone teams - 21 goals in 3 games - Even Harland can't match that

But, that was not a penalty - Forest v Soton for Forest - If anything it is a free kick the other way - strange one that IMO

So is that it not in the relegation zone or do we still have any twists and turns - Interesting that Leeds and Leicester are now both in the relegation zone and for the record, they both went down together in 2004 - Are the stars aligned again in the same pattern ?

Was soft, but Maitland-Niles absolutely walloped the back of Johnson's foot after he got the ball. The fact he didn't know he was coming up behind him so quickly is neither here nor there. Almost balances out the non-penalty we didn't get for Maguire's blatant handball a few weeks ago...and Southampton got a really soft one too.

I think I aged about 15 years in 90 minutes last night...Fucking hell...so stressful.

Danilo is a special, special player. He's going to be vital these last 3 games.

Absolutely cacked my pants every time the ball was a Ward-Prowse's feet. Our set piece defending is absolute Sunday league. Doesn't help when you've only got one healthy RB and Joe Worrall has to step in there (although he did a fine job!). Also, as big a fan as I am of Navas (and he's our best option right now), he does seem to be having at least one howler a game which is costing us more often than not. It can't help having a revolving door of defenders due to injuries, so I do have some sympathy.

Taiwo looks back to his best after his long injury lay-off. Hopefully he terrorises Chelsea's CB's for 70 minutes again like he did in Jan. Had he stayed healthy, we'd be clear of relegation already.

VAR ruined the night by ruling Felipe's goal offside....Deserved it for the finish and the celebration alone haha.

Feeling much better about our chances with the way we've started playing like a team.

There is always a case of it levels itself up throughout the season - But no one actually had the ball, certainly in control of it - it wasn't a tackle as such - M Niles was about to clear the ball and as he swung his foot back he had a clear sign of sight thru' to the ball - Then from behind Johnson put his foot in between the ball (without touching it) and the swinging foot of M-N who is about to clear it - I agree he caught Johnson but it was never Johnson's ball based on were he lunged for it - I don't think it was soft, just think it wasn't at all

But a great game to watch as some form of neutral with interest in the outcome - We are not out of it but getting more and more doubtful

joneve · May 2023

guitars4you said:

joneve said:

guitars4you said:

what a goal fest yesterday amongst the relegation zone teams - 21 goals in 3 games - Even Harland can't match that

But, that was not a penalty - Forest v Soton for Forest - If anything it is a free kick the other way - strange one that IMO

So is that it not in the relegation zone or do we still have any twists and turns - Interesting that Leeds and Leicester are now both in the relegation zone and for the record, they both went down together in 2004 - Are the stars aligned again in the same pattern ?

Was soft, but Maitland-Niles absolutely walloped the back of Johnson's foot after he got the ball. The fact he didn't know he was coming up behind him so quickly is neither here nor there. Almost balances out the non-penalty we didn't get for Maguire's blatant handball a few weeks ago...and Southampton got a really soft one too.

I think I aged about 15 years in 90 minutes last night...Fucking hell...so stressful.

Danilo is a special, special player. He's going to be vital these last 3 games.

Absolutely cacked my pants every time the ball was a Ward-Prowse's feet. Our set piece defending is absolute Sunday league. Doesn't help when you've only got one healthy RB and Joe Worrall has to step in there (although he did a fine job!). Also, as big a fan as I am of Navas (and he's our best option right now), he does seem to be having at least one howler a game which is costing us more often than not. It can't help having a revolving door of defenders due to injuries, so I do have some sympathy.

Taiwo looks back to his best after his long injury lay-off. Hopefully he terrorises Chelsea's CB's for 70 minutes again like he did in Jan. Had he stayed healthy, we'd be clear of relegation already.

VAR ruined the night by ruling Felipe's goal offside....Deserved it for the finish and the celebration alone haha.

Feeling much better about our chances with the way we've started playing like a team.

There is always a case of it levels itself up throughout the season - But no one actually had the ball, certainly in control of it - it wasn't a tackle as such - M Niles was about to clear the ball and as he swung his foot back he had a clear sign of sight thru' to the ball - Then from behind Johnson put his foot in between the ball (without touching it) and the swinging foot of M-N who is about to clear it - I agree he caught Johnson but it was never Johnson's ball based on were he lunged for it - I don't think it was soft, just think it wasn't at all

But a great game to watch as some form of neutral with interest in the outcome - We are not out of it but getting more and more doubtful

I'd agree with what you said, except Johnson did get a touch on the ball before being kicked by M-Niles...which is why I think it was given.

And yea, looks bleak for Leeds and Leicester and we're certainly not out the woods yet (neither are Everton if yesterday was a one off) - but any points at this stage are massive.

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