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mudslide73 · August 2022

thecolourbox said:

mudslide73 said:

RobDavies said:

Possibly The Royal Oak? Anyway, it was rotten - although the locals were friendly, which was a pleasant surprise.

The Waggon and Horses (in nearby Smethwick) is the worst pub I've ever been in.. it was literally rotten and got closed down. The Royal Oak is the Ritz in comparison .

Now I'm an oldun I just get in the car and drive home straight after the game. I can't be bothered with all the messing about in pubs.. although I do love a mixed grill.

Is the Waggon the bright blue one with the plastic windows and no furniture where people just stand outside?

That's the one. In 30 odd years of drinking, it is undeniably the worst pub I have ever been in. Brilliant people though.

Now I live up in Staffs we're in and out as fast as possible so maybe do the Sportsman/Vine once a season tops.

Lestratcaster · August 2022

Good win for us vs Leicester. Gabriel Jesus looking like he's enjoying being the main man and gives a new dimension to the attack. Hope he can score more than 20 goals this season, he's got 2 already. Xhaka looked good too in a more advanced role, which I think is better as any lapses of concentration or losing the ball in his own half nearer to our goal can prove fatal. Nice for him to get the goal though and the fans seemed to love it.

Sterner tests coming up though, I wanna see how we perform vs Liverpool and Man City, and see how far we've really come.

Man Utd look awful at the moment, really poor vs Brentford yesterday and that's being polite. Wonder who'll be first to get sacked by Christmas, Ten Haag or Lampard.

joneve · August 2022

Well, my first trip to the City Ground supporting a premier league team since I was 15 years old did not disappoint. As loud as I’ve heard it in recent times and the game offered literally EVERYTHING. Glad we took it to a decent West Ham side and survived their onslaughts when needed. Night and day compared to the performance against Newcastle. Not even 7 minutes of Moyesy time could help them though.

(Was nice to see us give Antonio the reception he deserved when he was subbed. We bloody love that bloke at Forest)

TeleMaster · August 2022

joneve said:

Well, my first trip to the City Ground supporting a premier league team since I was 15 years old did not disappoint. As loud as I’ve heard it in recent times and the game offered literally EVERYTHING. Glad we took it to a decent West Ham side and survived their onslaughts when needed. Night and day compared to the performance against Newcastle. Not even 7 minutes of Moyesy time could help them though.

(Was nice to see us give Antonio the reception he deserved when he was subbed. We bloody love that bloke at Forest)

I have no words.

Congratulations on a good result.

joneve · August 2022

TeleMaster said:

joneve said:

Well, my first trip to the City Ground supporting a premier league team since I was 15 years old did not disappoint. As loud as I’ve heard it in recent times and the game offered literally EVERYTHING. Glad we took it to a decent West Ham side and survived their onslaughts when needed. Night and day compared to the performance against Newcastle. Not even 7 minutes of Moyesy time could help them though.

(Was nice to see us give Antonio the reception he deserved when he was subbed. We bloody love that bloke at Forest)

I have no words.

Congratulations on a good result.

You were unlucky with hitting the woodwork and a share of the points wouldn’t have been an unfair result. We’re lucky enough to have United’s number 1 on loan for the season, and he’s obviously done his homework on Rice’s penalty placements.

TeleMaster · August 2022

joneve said:

TeleMaster said:

joneve said:

Well, my first trip to the City Ground supporting a premier league team since I was 15 years old did not disappoint. As loud as I’ve heard it in recent times and the game offered literally EVERYTHING. Glad we took it to a decent West Ham side and survived their onslaughts when needed. Night and day compared to the performance against Newcastle. Not even 7 minutes of Moyesy time could help them though.

(Was nice to see us give Antonio the reception he deserved when he was subbed. We bloody love that bloke at Forest)

I have no words.

Congratulations on a good result.

You were unlucky with hitting the woodwork and a share of the points wouldn’t have been an unfair result. We’re lucky enough to have United’s number 1 on loan for the season, and he’s obviously done his homework on Rice’s penalty placements.

Rice's penalty was shocking in any case. We're giving him the opportunity to play further up, more as a Lampard or Gerrard type player, and to let him take penalties to try and please him when we know he has an eye on a big money move to a top four club. His best role is undoubtedly playing as a defensive midfielder, intercepting and tackling from deep and charging forward, distributing, rather than playing in an deeper attacking role. I think he's one of the best in the world at reading the game, seeing where the ball will be and putting himself in between the ball and the player, and inch perfect tackling. His shooting and finishing just isn't good enough to be an attacking player in my opinion. Today is an example of that.

bertie · August 2022

west ham havent been any good since Alan Taylor stopped playing

joneve · August 2022

TeleMaster said:

joneve said:

TeleMaster said:

joneve said:

Well, my first trip to the City Ground supporting a premier league team since I was 15 years old did not disappoint. As loud as I’ve heard it in recent times and the game offered literally EVERYTHING. Glad we took it to a decent West Ham side and survived their onslaughts when needed. Night and day compared to the performance against Newcastle. Not even 7 minutes of Moyesy time could help them though.

(Was nice to see us give Antonio the reception he deserved when he was subbed. We bloody love that bloke at Forest)

I have no words.

Congratulations on a good result.

You were unlucky with hitting the woodwork and a share of the points wouldn’t have been an unfair result. We’re lucky enough to have United’s number 1 on loan for the season, and he’s obviously done his homework on Rice’s penalty placements.

Rice's penalty was shocking in any case. We're giving him the opportunity to play further up, more as a Lampard or Gerrard type player, and to let him take penalties to try and please him when we know he has an eye on a big money move to a top four club. His best role is undoubtedly playing as a defensive midfielder, intercepting and tackling from deep and charging forward, distributing, rather than playing in an deeper attacking role. I think he's one of the best in the world at reading the game, seeing where the ball will be and putting himself in between the ball and the player, and inch perfect tackling. His shooting and finishing just isn't good enough to be an attacking player in my opinion. Today is an example of that.

Can’t disagree with much of that. On the flip side, Your Lingard “replacement”, Benrahma, had a great game.

bertie · August 2022

so what are the actual repercussions when "off the field" people get booked ?

tony99 · August 2022

bertie said:

so what are the actual repercussions when "off the field" people get booked ?

If it happens twice they get sent on.

TTony · August 2022

bertie said:

so what are the actual repercussions when "off the field" people get booked ?

After the sendings-off, they’ll be banned from the touch line / dugout for a few games. And probably fined the football equivalent of 50p (ie £10k) for something-or other.

TTony · August 2022

Very happy with 2-2, given what normally happens when we play Chelsea.

bertie · August 2022

bertie said:

so what are the actual repercussions when "off the field" people get booked ?

can I update that to

"so what are the actual repercussions when "off the field" people get sent off ?

tho TB perfectly H - I do get that one............................

guitars4you · August 2022

TTony said:

bertie said:

so what are the actual repercussions when "off the field" people get booked ?

After the sendings-off, they’ll be banned from the touch line / dugout for a few games. And probably fined the football equivalent of 50p (ie £10k) for something-or other.

Interesting in that even in the heat of the moment, that if a goal scorer takes his shirt off and runs around in celebration he will be booked - But in the heat of the moment the ref did not book (or did not notice) Tuchel when he left his 'area'

Also interesting to note that VAR looked at Cucurella being dragged to the floor in an 'off the ball incident' but it appears to be okay for that to go on

Certainly a feisty encounter at times - At times Chelsea looked very good - At times they just looked nasty as well

scrumhalf · August 2022

Chelsea didn't have that many shots on goal in the first half, for all their possession. In past years we would have folded and only pushed half-heartedly for an equaliser, we now have some steel and endurance.

As for the ref, well, we've had the shitty end of the stick against them enough times over the years. Thomas Tuchus should have had a second yellow for running out of his area after their second goal, they don't seem to mention that.

I would have been happy with a point before the game, so I'm happy with a point after the game.

TTony · August 2022

guitars4you said:

Also interesting to note that VAR looked at Cucurella being dragged to the floor in an 'off the ball incident' but it appears to be okay for that to go on

Do you mean the incident in which Cucurella’s (clearly too long) hair got caught up in Romero’s hands, and he then threw himself to the ground when Romero tried to shake his hands free of all the hair?

guitars4you · August 2022

TTony said:

guitars4you said:

Also interesting to note that VAR looked at Cucurella being dragged to the floor in an 'off the ball incident' but it appears to be okay for that to go on

Do you mean the incident in which Cucurella’s (clearly too long) hair got caught up in Romero’s hands, and he then threw himself to the ground when Romero tried to shake his hands free of all the hair?

arrrgh I see that now - Good observation

It does appear both managers now got red after another confrontation after the game

scrumhalf · August 2022

VAR has no authority for incidents like that. Red cards, penalties and goals are the limits of its remit, I believe.

thecolourbox · August 2022

bertie said:

so what are the actual repercussions when "off the field" people get booked ?

The repercussions are grim

TeleMaster · August 2022

Watching the Forest West Ham highlights again, I don't know how we didn't get three goals. Oh well. Brighton next, whom we always lose to.

joneve · August 2022

TeleMaster said:

Watching the Forest West Ham highlights again, I don't know how we didn't get three goals. Oh well. Brighton next, whom we always lose to.

stout defence and Benrahma not managing to hit the target twice? Happy to help

guitars4you · August 2022

Wow - So FFL gets the Everton job, buys Dele Alli then barely a few kicks of the ball later and it looks like he is going out on loan - Could pass comment about what that implies for both Alli and FFL

tony99 · August 2022

guitars4you said:

Wow - So FFL gets the Everton job, buys Dele Alli then barely a few kicks of the ball later and it looks like he is going out on loan - Could pass comment about what that implies for both Alli and FFL

What is FFL?

guitars4you · August 2022

tony99 said:

guitars4you said:

Wow - So FFL gets the Everton job, buys Dele Alli then barely a few kicks of the ball later and it looks like he is going out on loan - Could pass comment about what that implies for both Alli and FFL

What is FFL?

'effing Frank Lampard or Frank 'effing Lampard or Fat Frank Lampard - same difference either way

tony99 · August 2022

guitars4you said:

tony99 said:

guitars4you said:

Wow - So FFL gets the Everton job, buys Dele Alli then barely a few kicks of the ball later and it looks like he is going out on loan - Could pass comment about what that implies for both Alli and FFL

What is FFL?

'effing Frank Lampard or Frank 'effing Lampard or Fat Frank Lampard - same difference either way

Haha sounds like same old everton I used to follow then. How much have they spaffed up the wall on Alli then?

guitars4you · August 2022

tony99 said:

guitars4you said:

tony99 said:

guitars4you said:

Wow - So FFL gets the Everton job, buys Dele Alli then barely a few kicks of the ball later and it looks like he is going out on loan - Could pass comment about what that implies for both Alli and FFL

What is FFL?

'effing Frank Lampard or Frank 'effing Lampard or Fat Frank Lampard - same difference either way

Haha sounds like same old everton I used to follow then. How much have they spaffed up the wall on Alli then?

for me it stem's from FFL's days at Derby - nothing aimed at Everton - Just him

tony99 · August 2022

guitars4you said:

tony99 said:

guitars4you said:

tony99 said:

guitars4you said:

Wow - So FFL gets the Everton job, buys Dele Alli then barely a few kicks of the ball later and it looks like he is going out on loan - Could pass comment about what that implies for both Alli and FFL

What is FFL?

'effing Frank Lampard or Frank 'effing Lampard or Fat Frank Lampard - same difference either way

Haha sounds like same old everton I used to follow then. How much have they spaffed up the wall on Alli then?

for me it stem's from FFL's days at Derby - nothing aimed at Everton - Just him

Oh no I just wondered how much he bought him for that's all

thecolourbox · August 2022

mudslide73 said:

thecolourbox said:

mudslide73 said:

RobDavies said:

Possibly The Royal Oak? Anyway, it was rotten - although the locals were friendly, which was a pleasant surprise.

The Waggon and Horses (in nearby Smethwick) is the worst pub I've ever been in.. it was literally rotten and got closed down. The Royal Oak is the Ritz in comparison .

Now I'm an oldun I just get in the car and drive home straight after the game. I can't be bothered with all the messing about in pubs.. although I do love a mixed grill.

Is the Waggon the bright blue one with the plastic windows and no furniture where people just stand outside?

That's the one. In 30 odd years of drinking, it is undeniably the worst pub I have ever been in. Brilliant people though.

As I was passing just now I thought I'd grab a photo of it. Folks may find it hard to believe but if anything, it actually looks better now it's closed down than it did when open

TTony · August 2022

tony99 said:

guitars4you said:

tony99 said:

guitars4you said:

Wow - So FFL gets the Everton job, buys Dele Alli then barely a few kicks of the ball later and it looks like he is going out on loan - Could pass comment about what that implies for both Alli and FFL

What is FFL?

'effing Frank Lampard or Frank 'effing Lampard or Fat Frank Lampard - same difference either way

Haha sounds like same old everton I used to follow then. How much have they spaffed up the wall on Alli then?

Nothing.

Everton “bought” Dele from Spurs, but with future payments tied to how many games he played, goals he scored, times he captained Everton to winning the CL, that sort of thing.

Apart from his wages, and getting him a new shirt of his own, he’s not cost them much.

They’ve still been robbed though.

Don’t know where the brilliant-footballer-formerly-known-as-Dele-Alli went. Sad case

tony99 · August 2022

TTony said:

tony99 said:

guitars4you said:

tony99 said:

guitars4you said:

Wow - So FFL gets the Everton job, buys Dele Alli then barely a few kicks of the ball later and it looks like he is going out on loan - Could pass comment about what that implies for both Alli and FFL

What is FFL?

'effing Frank Lampard or Frank 'effing Lampard or Fat Frank Lampard - same difference either way

Haha sounds like same old everton I used to follow then. How much have they spaffed up the wall on Alli then?

Nothing.

Everton “bought” Dele from Spurs, but with future payments tied to how many games he played, goals he scored, times he captained Everton to winning the CL, that sort of thing.

Apart from his wages, and getting him a new shirt of his own, he’s not cost them much.

They’ve still been robbed though.

Don’t know where the brilliant-footballer-formerly-known-as-Dele-Alli went. Sad case

Oh right; an arrangement.

I thought he scored to keep them up or something though. I might be way off actually.

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