R8 Peach Deal

Hattigol · December 2018

crunchman said:

Fishboy7 said:

Why such strong views on the prices of used R8s?

I'm assuming that you haven't read through all of the previous 135 pages of this thread.
There are those who say that the knockdown price on the ones that started this thread will cause second hand prices to drop, while others say that it won't have much effect, or that any effect is likely to be temporary. Both sides are rather entrenched in their opinions.
People can get quite rude about prices on this forum anyway. I remember advertising a PRS for sale in the classifieds a few years ago. Someone on here made me a lowball offer, and I said no, and he came back with an arrogant PM saying that was adamant that I'd never get more than £1000 for it. I sold it on consignment in Charlie Chandlers and got a bit over £1200 after commission - so better than £200 more than the maximum he said I would get.
That spirit of "I know better than you" persists on this forum. Pricing of second hand guitars is one of those that seems to bring it out. Always has done, and people don't like being told they are wrong - even when they are.
There are also a handful of people on the forum who are argumentative types, might even use the word troll. I can understand TTony getting fed up and wanting out.

Don't forget as well that there are a huge amount of people on here with no sense of humour whatsoever.

dbphoto · December 2018

I bought some Guitar Honey as recommended by @stickyfiddle ;;

It's definitely made the board a tiny bit darker and less dry looking, but again, not the effect I would expect with a rosewood board?

Something I had not noticed before is just how poor the fretwork is. Pretty much on every fret, on the bass side, there is a little notch out of the wire:

Does it matter to me?

No, it's just another thing to add to the list of little things that are 'wrong' with this guitar.

Michael84 · December 2018

Anyone went from 10s to 11s? And if so, did you need to do any adjustments? The nut doesn't look like it can take it without filing.

p90fool · December 2018

dbphoto said:

I bought some Guitar Honey as recommended by @stickyfiddle ;;

It's definitely made the board a tiny bit darker and less dry looking, but again, not the effect I would expect with a rosewood board?

Something I had not noticed before is just how poor the fretwork is. Pretty much on every fret, on the bass side, there is a little notch out of the wire:

Does it matter to me?

No, it's just another thing to add to the list of little things that are 'wrong' with this guitar.

That looks like a tooling mark from where they've 'crimped one off' for want of a better expression.

sweepy · December 2018

Good old Gibson QC

John_P · December 2018

dbphoto said:

I bought some Guitar Honey as recommended by @stickyfiddle ;;

It's definitely made the board a tiny bit darker and less dry looking, but again, not the effect I would expect with a rosewood board?

Something I had not noticed before is just how poor the fretwork is. Pretty much on every fret, on the bass side, there is a little notch out of the wire:

Does it matter to me?

No, it's just another thing to add to the list of little things that are 'wrong' with this guitar.

Wow those frets don’t look great - unless it’s just the camera angle - it must be a great guitar if you didn’t send it back.

dbphoto · December 2018

As I said, I have only just noticed the crimp marks on most of the frets. It’s the first time I have had the strings off since the day it arrived a few months ago, and if I remember correctly it was late at night with a bottle of wine on that occasion.

If I had noticed then I probably would have sent it back I think.

Now, despite its flaws, I really like it and can forgive Gibson’s terrible QC on what should have been a £4k guitar.

John_P · December 2018

If it doesn’t bother you when you play then I have no issue with little “flaws” that add to the character. Plenty of my guitar have little quirks that might have put me off when new but are just part of the guitar.

roberty · December 2018

Michael84 said:

Anyone went from 10s to 11s? And if so, did you need to do any adjustments? The nut doesn't look like it can take it without filing.

Yeah I had my nut done by a tech though. First thing I do with any guitar

roberty · December 2018

dbphoto said:

Now, despite its flaws, I really like it and can forgive Gibson’s terrible QC on what should have been a £4k guitar.

That's the rub innit. Only Gibson could get away with it!

Jonathanthomas83 · December 2018

dbphoto said:

I bought some Guitar Honey as recommended by @stickyfiddle ;;

It's definitely made the board a tiny bit darker and less dry looking, but again, not the effect I would expect with a rosewood board?

Something I had not noticed before is just how poor the fretwork is. Pretty much on every fret, on the bass side, there is a little notch out of the wire:

Does it matter to me?

No, it's just another thing to add to the list of little things that are 'wrong' with this guitar.

Christ, Gibson leave a lot to be desired, don't they. Have to be honest, without trying to wind you up, mine seems faultless, but I'd be pretty annoyed if it wasn't.

Maybe take it to Jon at @FelineGuitars, he would work wonders on it, should you want that. You shouldn't have to though, that's the point.

I wonder if this shit will change with the new CEO etc?

If they ever dared to compare their QC to the likes of PRS, they'd be ashamed of themselves.

sweepy · December 2018

Or even Ibanez QC, Gibson still seem to lack that fine degree of precision in their builds

RMJ · December 2018

I can't fault the quality on mine. I've been playing it all day pretty much. Love it dearly.

dbphoto · December 2018

I hear you @Jonathanthomas83 but none of its little issues make any difference to how well it plays and sounds.

If I thought any of it mattered I would be straight on the phone to Peach.

I would of course prefer if it was perfect, but it really does sound and play like nothing else I have ever owned, including perfect PRS’s, Suhr’s etc so I have finally learned that a good one is a good one despite any faults.

Still a bit of a piss take that it was let out the door as it is though!

TINMAN82 · December 2018

Don’t know what the other issues are but those frets are poor. That said it’s correctable as I’m sure a fret stone would make it almost dissapear, as will any eventual refret. In fairness I’ve owned very few guitars from any brand that don’t have 1 or 2 cosmetic issues like this if you really look closely.

dbphoto · December 2018

I don't feel the need to correct the issue as it has no effect on how it plays @TINMAN82 ;

It might sound like I am defending poor QC from Gibson, when I am certainly not, but this particular guitar can get away with various things as the sum of its parts equal something quite special.

Now I have noticed the fret thing I will of course always know it is there:

Image: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3ovfxfiuf5fh0fu/IMG_0430.jpg?raw=1

But it's like zooming in on an image of Keira Knightley and finding a flaw or two. I really don't care, I still want to play........

Image: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ebi6kcj7jeuk46a/IMG_0232.jpg?raw=1

roberty · December 2018

RMJ said:

I can't fault the quality on mine. I've been playing it all day pretty much. Love it dearly.

Same! Definitely a lifer, so pleased with it

skikdi53 · December 2018

where do you buy the guitar honey @dbphoto ;;?

dbphoto · December 2018

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gerlitz-Guitar-Honey-Fingerboard-Treatment-Oil-/182611127526?txnId=1902578734008

Boromedic · December 2018

POSH Guitars stocks it online, he's a nice fella an all.

skikdi53 · December 2018

Thank's.
the first ebayer dont ship to France and posh not before 2 january.

sweepy · December 2018

£70 for Gerlitz Guitar Honey from Amazon ! I don’t think so somehow

Jonathanthomas83 · December 2018

Anyone tried Gorgomyte? I like it.

Boromedic · December 2018

I use that, it's great stuff for polishing the old frets!

Jonathanthomas83 · December 2018

Boromedic said:

I use that, it's great stuff for polishing the old frets!

It's great. It does a good job of getting the dirt off the fretboard too. Do you think it's a good substitute for something like Lemon Oil for keeping the fretboard healthy though, or should I use something else too?

Boromedic · December 2018

Yeah I think it's an all in one job, there's some lemon oil type substance impregnated in the cloth so I understand.

danishbacon · December 2018

Could also check out fret doctor. https://beafifer.com/boredoctor.htm

Gorgomyte I’ve used and it seems an awful lot like what’s on cape cod cloths which I’ve used to polish watches. Not sure how I feel about the stuff on my board but it does polish frets very well.

Lebarque · December 2018

^ +1 for Fret Doctor

fretfinder · December 2018

I use F-One oil now, instead of lemon oil, and it seems pretty good. You might be able to get it a bit cheaper than Amazon if you shop around.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MusicNomad-The-F-One-Fretboard-Conditioner/dp/B006WPGZAG

Jonathanthomas83 · December 2018

@FelineGuitars what do you use to clean frets and what do you use to clean the fretboard and keep it healthy etc?

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