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They didn’t have to. She freely volunteered this information directly after the event.
https://youtu.be/1PyVlJblP3k?si=DryR6UDYcDaRkpeq
https://rfef.es/en/noticias/official-statement-from-rfef-in-response-to-futpro
Was she your boss?
It is relevant to misconduct and indecency in employment regs - would you say you had been a victim of a sexual assault?
I would say it was at least as bad and probably worse than the Hermoso situation. So you tell me, was that sexual assault? Should I, and all of us, be outraged?
That's not a statement - that is the Prosecution's case.
Then that is turned over to the jury of social media, who always start by shouting "guilty" the loudest they can in order to earn their Virtue Signaller's badge of merit this week. (The slower ones compete for "most outraged" consolation prizes.)
So now that the defendant has been found guilty, we then move to "talking head experts" in the mainstream media to pronounce the sentence and punishment.
Wake me up when its over...
You've only got to look at him as he's waiting for the next female body he can grab coming along the line, just after he slaps Hermoso.... That's a man who is more overjoyed at getting to grab lots of women than he is about a football game.
Maybe it's not such a big deal for some British viewers, but for the women of Spain who have lived their lives in a culture that is significantly more male dominated than ours, and continue to do so, winning the World Cup was a massive step forward for feminism and put them on the world stage in a big way. Their crowning moment should have been for the women alone and Rubiales behaving like that was, in effect, a man saying "yeah, but I can still do this to you". I have no doubt that thought never crossed his mind for a second.... it's ingrained in him and the macho culture he's a part of. He felt absolutely entitled to kiss the players. It is his right - not just because he was head of the F.A., but because he is a man.
I can't speak on behalf of Spanish women, obviously, but my take is that they are not so much angry about the actual kiss itself, but the fact that it was the pinnacle of their achievements, their moment of glory for their country and the women of their country and here was a man, yet again, showing the world that he felt he could do anything he wanted to the women, because he is a man. If he'd not kissed Hermoso but patted the players on the head instead, there would have been the same uproar - and rightly so.
And then there's kissing. Back in the 80s, and I have no reason to assume much has changed since then, if a man was ever introduced to a woman, she would kiss him on both cheeks. Female acquaintances kissed each other and kissed men on both cheeks whenever they met, and, during the conversation, there would be lots of pawing, hand-holding, back-slapping, you name it - even men to men, although men did not kiss each other. In the UK, as we know, even a kiss on the cheek is rare. I remember my mother might kiss her very close friends once on the cheek if they hadn't met for months. My father never kissed anyone apart from my mother and his mother-in-law.
Another thing is that Spanish people are, in general, pretty hot-blooded and emotional. They shout, retort, laugh loudly, gesticulate, and curse in language that might strip the wallpaper from the walls. They would often say the British were 'cold' and lacked 'marcha', which roughly meant a kind of spirit of spontaneous joy and zest for enjoyment.
As for the personal 'crotch grabbing' that Rubiales performed for all to see. That gesture is very common not just in Spain but in some other Mediterranean countries, too. I remember seeing men in the street brazenly 'handle themselves' in full view of anyone and everyone in the street, bar. or wherever. I found it crude and machista, and I once commented on it to a Greek girlfriend I once had. She found nothing offensive in it and said it was probably due to the size of their 'endowment,' which might be constricted uncomfortably within their pants. That was part of the message, I think: "Hey everyone, I've got a really big one!"
So there is a cultural context to this. Rubiales claimed he was in an emotional state, and kissing is much more common in Spain than in many other countries. But a kiss on the lips? That is different and particularly one inflicted by a big bruiser-looking guy like Rubiales. I did occasionally see acquaintances kiss on the lips, but it was rare, and I never saw a man grab a woman's face a stick one on her in the manner that Rubiales did with Hermoso. For me, it bespeaks a message of male dominance more than anything else. The girls have done well in their little game - credit where credit's due - but this is still a piece of tush, let's face it. The reaction of the women's team and from large sections of the population testify to this. Maybe, as some have suggested here and given the more 'tactile' nature of Spanish culture, it's been blown out of proportion, but still ... the world has moved on, and this kind of behaviour ain't kosher no more.
In the case of a much more senior and high profile media figure the punishment should (and will) go beyond that. (lets face it, probably with a huge pay off)
This also applies if a woman does it to a man.
He says it was consensual. She says it wasn't.
Doesn't make it any less inappropriate.
This is a person in a position of power breaking a boundary, full stop.
It's also a turning point in their/our history. They can choose to move forwards or backwards. We'll see what happens.
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Thanks all for clarifying.
Forgive me but I'm off to try and find something guitar-related.
Ian
Lowering my expectations has succeeded beyond my wildest dreams.
I think in the Rubiales situation he has kissed her on the lips and that's a line that's been breached as to what is acceptable or not acceptable. Officials really should understand the boundaries here and so should the players.
What if the player grabs the official and kisses him ?
What if a male player grabs and kisses a female official in the same way?
Everyone just needs to be clear.
Here's that medal ceremony:
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To give you an idea of how hopelessly in the wrong this man is, not only has the entire national team refused to serve under him - yes, every single player, and many others not in the team but eligible for selection (79 senior players all up) - but pretty much the entire coaching staff has resigned in disgust. The head coach has not resigned (yet) but has issued a strongly-worded statement showing his full support for his players and staff. Not only all that, but even FIFA - a very entitled and tone-deaf body not known for being able to read the room - has suspended the scumbag.