Crucifixion too good for him?

Stratavarious · September 2023

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tree-felled-sycamore-gap-robin-hood-b2420767.html

WezV · September 2023

Is it wrong that all I can see is wood that looks consistently light in colour with potential for nice rippling/flame - there might be some nice lumber in it

LionAquaLooper · September 2023

I'm genuinely wondering how they knew it was him. Are there CCTVs around that tree? I'd assume he wouldn't have cut that tree if people were around.

WeZ84 · September 2023

LionAquaLooper said:

I'm genuinely wondering how they knew it was him. Are there CCTVs around that tree? I'd assume he wouldn't have cut that tree if people were around.

From the article: "The closest pub to Sycamore Gap offered a £1,500 bar tab to anyone who provided information to Northumbria Police leading to an arrest"

jasonbone75 · September 2023

^ it was at this point the culprit discovered who were his fair-weather friends

nero1701 · September 2023

Does sycamore make nice guitar bodies?

WezV · September 2023

nero1701 said:

Does sycamore make nice guitar bodies?

Sycamore (or European maple if your prefer) is the original wood choice for the backs and sides of most traditional stringed instruments.

it often has some flame, just like other maples, Its a bit softer than the American varieties often used for guitars, so can work well for solid bodies depending on the piece. It's better as top wood for electrics, or back and sides for acoustics,. There is no saying this trunk is good enough for either of those really, but it does seem to have some nice colour and a rippling up the bit of stump we can see

Dr_Necessiter · September 2023

No, nail some sense into him.

bloodandtears · September 2023

bit of gaffa and it'll be reet

too soon??

digitalscream · September 2023

Pretty sure @FelineGuitars has repaired worse breaks on Gibson necks.

Sporky · September 2023

bloodandtears said:

bit of gaffa and it'll be reet

Nah, you need nails for this sort of work.

Hang on - are we talking about repairing the tree, or the crucifixion thing?

yocky · September 2023

Must admit, I've occasionally daydreamed (daydreamt?) of sycamore terrorism after another spring spent pulling up thousands of saplings growing in the garden. Fertile mofos. This seems a bit much though.

EricTheWeary · September 2023

That's quite a bit of effort as vandalism goes.

Meanwhile they have arrested someone for arson of The Crooked House so Dudley magistrates will be checking the statutes to see if they can order capital punishment.

[the arson has been huge news locally, I can only assume it has made the national and international press]

munckee · September 2023

EricTheWeary said:

That's quite a bit of effort as vandalism goes.

Meanwhile they have arrested someone for arson of The Crooked House so Dudley magistrates will be checking the statutes to see if they can order capital punishment.

[the arson has been huge news locally, I can only assume it has made the national and international press]

That's awful, buying a property you know you won't get permission to develop and then it mysteriously catching fire, amazing how often it seems to happen.

axisus · September 2023

An utter sh*t. I hope he pays for that for the rest of his life. If they are merely charging him for an act of vandalism then that is not enough. I feel enraged over this.

p90fool · September 2023

axisus said:

An utter sh*t. I hope he pays for that for the rest of his life. If they are merely charging him for an act of vandalism then that is not enough. I feel enraged over this.

It'll be classed as a pretty minor crime I suspect. He'll get a bit of community service, which he might be well advised to do somewhere else.

djspecialist · September 2023

Does anyone else find it a bit hard to believe that a 16 year old had the equipment and skill necessary to do this? I'm no tree surgeon, but that cut looks like a professional job - and one which would have required a serious chainsaw.

fretmeister · September 2023

axisus said:

An utter sh*t. I hope he pays for that for the rest of his life. If they are merely charging him for an act of vandalism then that is not enough. I feel enraged over this.

Perhaps you can quote the additional laws you'd like to use in charging him?

At the same time pen an essay on the dangers of making law to target a single person, retrospectively.

Offset · September 2023

fretmeister said:

axisus said:

An utter sh*t. I hope he pays for that for the rest of his life. If they are merely charging him for an act of vandalism then that is not enough. I feel enraged over this.

Perhaps you can quote the additional laws you'd like to use in charging him?

Is there a law against being a selfish, antisocial little cunt?

fretmeister · September 2023

Offset said:

fretmeister said:

axisus said:

An utter sh*t. I hope he pays for that for the rest of his life. If they are merely charging him for an act of vandalism then that is not enough. I feel enraged over this.

Perhaps you can quote the additional laws you'd like to use in charging him?

Is there a law against being a selfish, antisocial little cunt?

No.

Otherwise 99% of the House of Commons would have been locked up.

Kittyfrisk · September 2023

roberty · September 2023

LionAquaLooper said:

I'm genuinely wondering how they knew it was him. Are there CCTVs around that tree? I'd assume he wouldn't have cut that tree if people were around.

CCTreeV

RandallFlagg · September 2023

Just adds to my ever increasing misanthropy, a trait I share with @Emp_Fab ;

octatonic · September 2023

A 16 year old cutting down a tree that big?
That would be surprising, but I guess it isn't impossible.

Straight cut too, they didn't use an angled cut.
If that was done with a chainsaw then he'd have had to have been a bit of a unit.
If with a hand saw then he'd have had to use a lot of wedges to stop the weight of the tree preventing the blade from moving.

Highly doubtful it was done by a single person, regardless of their age.

We felled a similarly sized tree last year- a walnut that was potentially causing subsidence for a neighbour.
It took 3 men 5 hours to do safely.

Sassafras · September 2023

He probably filmed himself cutting it down to put on tiktok.

EricTheWeary · September 2023

munckee said:

EricTheWeary said:

That's quite a bit of effort as vandalism goes.

Meanwhile they have arrested someone for arson of The Crooked House so Dudley magistrates will be checking the statutes to see if they can order capital punishment.

[the arson has been huge news locally, I can only assume it has made the national and international press]

That's awful, buying a property you know you won't get permission to develop and then it mysteriously catching fire, amazing how often it seems to happen.

The slightly odd thing is that the estate I live on seems to have been like that. There was some lovely old farm building that had stood for 200 years, farmer doesn't get permission to sell the land for development and a few weeks later oops old farm building accidentally catches fire and land sold to Barrats.

Anyway, sorry nothing to do with the tree.

Fingers657 · September 2023

Make some stocks out of the wood and put the bastard in them where the tree stood for a whole winter and let people pelt him with rotten eggs.

Philly_Q · September 2023

djspecialist said:

Does anyone else find it a bit hard to believe that a 16 year old had the equipment and skill necessary to do this? I'm no tree surgeon, but that cut looks like a professional job - and one which would have required a serious chainsaw.

Things You May Not Know About The Texas Chainsaw Massacre

Open_G · September 2023

It seems the oddest piece of vandalism. The most understandable explanation would be a local farmer or landowner sick of tourists damaging infrastructure or crops, scaring livestock and trespassing in order to get to the tree site.

It makes no sense to me.

Hurling_Fruitmig · September 2023

Open_G said:

It seems the oddest piece of vandalism. The most understandable explanation would be a local farmer or landowner sick of tourists damaging infrastructure or crops, scaring livestock and trespassing in order to get to the tree site.

It makes no sense to me.

Double no sense given tourists have been walking the wall for centuries although the numbers have increased a lot in the last 50 years. Seems more like a bet or Tiktok nonsense to me.

The wall and a strip of land around it is both a scheduled monument and UNESCO World Heritage Site. I would imagine that the restrictions on sheep farming from those designations would outweigh the irritation from tourists. The idea that it was some sort of 'revenge' still seems pretty far fetched.

digitalscream · September 2023

fretmeister said:

axisus said:

An utter sh*t. I hope he pays for that for the rest of his life. If they are merely charging him for an act of vandalism then that is not enough. I feel enraged over this.

Perhaps you can quote the additional laws you'd like to use in charging him?

At the same time pen an essay on the dangers of making law to target a single person, retrospectively.

With that said...I'm pretty sure the sentencing guidelines for criminal damage at Heritage sites made more severe a few years back?

Pretty sure it won't just be a vanilla vandalism charge...

Howdy, Stranger!

Categories

In this Discussion

Become a Subscriber!

Crucifixion too good for him?

Comments