Fender Tone Master Pro Leaked

chrisj1602 · September 2023

Musicman20 · September 2023

Is that real?! If it's powered that would be very interesting.

chrisj1602 · September 2023

Musicman20 said:

Is that real?! If it's powered that would be very interesting.

Yes, it’s real. I saw it on a Helix group then searched myself. A couple of shops listed then took it down but the images show in search results.

chrisj1602 · September 2023

Someone on the Helix group said it is €1800!

Musicman20 · September 2023

chrisj1602 said:

Someone on the Helix group said it is €1800!

It must have a power amp in there....surely?! For that price.

StefB · September 2023

Musicman20 said:

chrisj1602 said:

Someone on the Helix group said it is €1800!

It must have a power amp in there....surely?! For that price.

Doesn't look like it has.

John Cordy has a video up showing the blurb and various elevations before the naughty Italian site that leaked it took it down - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhVBcbelabQ&ab_channel=JohnNathanCordy

stickyfiddle · September 2023

That’s a hell of a lot of jacks if it doesn’t have speaker outs as well as signal/line level

Nerine · September 2023

Interesting

bermudianbrit · September 2023

touchscreen, so no good for me. No bloody shock there.

guitarmangler · September 2023

Agreed. That is a lot of jacks. Must have a couple of loops to run pedals, too. How old is the helix now, 10 years ? All line 6 have to do now is build the helix 2 and price it lower and there sorted.

chrisj1602 · September 2023

guitarmangler said:

Agreed. That is a lot of jacks. Must have a couple of loops to run pedals, too. How old is the helix now, 10 years ? All line 6 have to do now is build the helix 2 and price it lower and there sorted.

I guess it will come but the current Helix (and HX Stomp & Effects) hardware is still good I think, and the updates make them worth keeping.

dindude · September 2023

They just being doing a Boss - remember when the Waza Craft amp first came out, it was like £3k, then suddenly it disappeared and the Kantana came out for £2.50.

monquixote · September 2023

I was really hoping it would be a Tone Master head with an FX loop / preamp defeat.

Musicman20 · September 2023

I don't see what this offers over a Helix, which is regularly updated with excellent new amps/cabs/effects.

Touch screen maybe. If they had this with a 100W power amp built in, I think it would do well. Without it, well....why?

Musicman20 · September 2023

Powered cabs?!

https://www.essemusic.it/fender-tone-master-fr-12/?fbclid=IwAR3UVOUEq7KgpOJx-1xpPMX2sUhq9WMSe6s5BkvqaJadfohlFOGanOqX6oo_aem_ATpDuQ2E5_YHQgEVUB3BvZ1R8VuXcJiORx9olgeTpNfyqKt0thRkx73ChnxLf76ujfY

yocky · September 2023

Musicman20 said:

I don't see what this offers over a Helix, which is regularly updated with excellent new amps/cabs/effects.

Classic market segmentation. It's much more expensive and much uglier, if that's your thing.

roberty · September 2023

stickyfiddle said:

That’s a hell of a lot of jacks if it doesn’t have speaker outs as well as signal/line level

dindude · September 2023

I just don’t get it, all that I/O points towards loads of flexibility, but wasn’t the USP of the Tonemaster amps that all the DSP went towards a singular purpose and amp like ease of use.

chrisj1602 · September 2023

Musicman20 said:

Powered cabs?!

https://www.essemusic.it/fender-tone-master-fr-12/?fbclid=IwAR3UVOUEq7KgpOJx-1xpPMX2sUhq9WMSe6s5BkvqaJadfohlFOGanOqX6oo_aem_ATpDuQ2E5_YHQgEVUB3BvZ1R8VuXcJiORx9olgeTpNfyqKt0thRkx73ChnxLf76ujfY

They look nice.

hollywoodrox · September 2023

$1800 when there’s stuff like Helix, Quad Cortex & Fractal FM plus used Axe FX it’s going to have to be shit hot . If they can get someone famous to use it it might sell a few

guitarmangler · September 2023

Small point, but I really like the red amp inspired red light.

dindude · September 2023

I guess they clearly think this competes with Quad Cortex rather than Helix. They’d have been better off following the no -menu market with high quality modelling that they nailed with the Tonemaster amps. Something like the Milkman / blackstar / victory pedal amps, or even a knob based desktop modeller like a modern POD.

stickyfiddle · September 2023

dindude said:

I just don’t get it, all that I/O points towards loads of flexibility, but wasn’t the USP of the Tonemaster amps that all the DSP went towards a singular purpose and amp like ease of use.

Sort of, but also the single-unit plug & play thing. Lightweight, DI out, attenuator, USB interface.

This plus the powered cab that seems to also exist is a nice end-to-end solution for gigging. Def feels too expensive at face value, but I guess we'll see if there's anything in terms of hidden features that aren't obvious just from look at pics

Jonathanthomas83 · September 2023

I'd have much preferred Tone Master pedals of the individual amps, like the UA pedals (Dream etc.).

Winny_Pooh · September 2023

Fender's CS pricing have obviously gone to their head, but this is no battered strat or tele.

onlyatom · September 2023

I'm definitely interested in this, but that price...ouch!

guitargeek62 · September 2023

chrisj1602 said:

Musicman20 said:

Powered cabs?!

https://www.essemusic.it/fender-tone-master-fr-12/?fbclid=IwAR3UVOUEq7KgpOJx-1xpPMX2sUhq9WMSe6s5BkvqaJadfohlFOGanOqX6oo_aem_ATpDuQ2E5_YHQgEVUB3BvZ1R8VuXcJiORx9olgeTpNfyqKt0thRkx73ChnxLf76ujfY

They look nice.

Yup, I'm more interested in these than the multifx unit

stonevibe · September 2023

Few more details here https://guitarbomb.com/2023/09/27/leak-fender-tone-master-pro-and-fr-12-cabinet/

jmf1928 · September 2023

There will be a CS heavy relic version to differentiate from the other modelers.

Danny1969 · September 2023

The cabs are class D 1kW apparently ... which means they are probably using PA speakers rather than guitar ... and possibly the Icepower 1000ASP SMPS and power amp module.

I don't know if the cabs are stereo but they would sound better and larger indoors if they were .. or maybe the idea is to buy 2 and run in stereo.

I always thought (and said) the idea of the Tonemaster DSP only modeling one Fender amp was stupid ... so totally understand the concept of this floor processor. Although it's not for me, digital modellers are very popular for both home and live gigs so Fender need a presence in the market.

Funkfingers · October 2023

StefB said:

Musicman20 said:

chrisj1602 said:

Someone on the Helix group said it is €1800!

It must have a power amp in there....surely?! For that price.

Doesn't look like it has.

Factor in Italy's insane, multi-level purchase tax structure and the figure of €1800 might work out nearer £1250.

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