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Maybe I shouldn't have started it. I did wonder whether it'd be ok.... hopefully we can manage.
Hope for the best but anticipate the worst.
From a previous closed thread, keep it legal & non slanderous for the sake of TFB.
Horrible git.
Gonna try and avoid passing judgment on him until the verdict is in whenever that may be. Would be nice if this didn't turn into another Huw Edwards spectacle in this forum. But something tells me it will anyway.
@LionAquaLooper there is quite a few comments worrying about where this thread will go..... I am worrying I shouldn't have started it now..... I didn't see the Huw Edwards one..... can I delete the thread? I've got no interest in stirring the pot.
I can only make the same ill informed guesses that anyone else could so they probably aren't worth sharing. I don't know a great deal about him, I watched something on his YouTube channel when he interviewed someone I was interested in but all I learned was that Brand was a lousy interviewer. And I've seen him in a couple of films and from those I learned that he can't act either. So, his talents have passed me by I think.
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I have watched a few of his YT videos over the last few years, he has got himself deep into the grift of the online alt-right narrative of band wagon, conspiracies, great reset, the elites, pro Russia, defend masculinity etc. But he's clever, from what I've seen he never pushes the narrative, just says "I'm asking the question" about the hot topic that week. And watches the views and revenue come in.
He's a pseudo intellectual, he craves fame and he'll spin these latest sexual allegations about how he's being persecuted. Very Trumpian.
I know pretty much nothing about Brand. He has seemed not-my-style anytime I’ve seen him on TV (like in interviews). I’ve never seen a movie he was in or a standup bit of his.
The “fake plastic guru” comment above seems right to me.
But — as a general society question (not a Brand question — are we at the point where physically persuading (aka forcing) someone to sleep with you is on par with verbally/emotionally persuading them to sleep with you if they end up regretting it later?
Don’t get me wrong, instances like his behavior on Fallon are creepy and would allude to someone who’d go further across the line when off-camera. But it’s an interesting time nonetheless.
I dont know how much is true, but I will say I think channel 4 are being very hypocritical.
I took the following from the program.
The allegations from the 16 year old made it clear she met him at their studio when she was visiting a friend. She currently works for them, in what role was not revealed. She first made the allegations to his people 3 years ago, which I am willing to bet coincides with Dispatches first steps towards this program. She never should have been there when she was 16. And she is far too biased to be part of this program now.
One of the other women consider RB a friend. She made it clear she was used by C4 as a go between at a point RB was fresh out of rehab. This led to an incident. They clearly knew what he was like, that he was in a vulnerable state, and still used women to get what they wanted from him.
None of this makes the behaviour in the allegations okay. But it does not sit well with me that channel 4 made a lot of money off RB and his promiscuity during the noughties, and are now again making money off him again with this new documentary.
If they really want to show how much they have changed they should be making some significant donations to rape victim charities, taken from the profits they have made from RB over the years.
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I just wonder why so many people think he’s their voice of reason. He very much is an ‘elite’ to most people, worth £20 million plus, a powerful, almost untouchable media figure with almost limitless legal protection. His platform is the trillion dollar Google/youtube, yet somehow he’s an alternative voice of reason. His massive switch from left to right wing makes me think it’s a popularity strategy as much as anything. Win the info war, use easily bought popularity as a shield and garner support from the conspiratorial masses.
Trumpian is the perfect description. We live in an age of who shouts the loudest controls the narrative and he’s always been good at loud.
He has a sociopathic need for attention like these types often do.
He's a fur-lined, ocean-going cuntbucket.
In Brand's case he's accused of the former.
However the latter can be a crime if the person cannot intelligently consent, or if you are in some kind of relationship of power over them.
In general however consent is not retrospective.