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Philly_Q · April 2022

MagicPigDetective said:

Philly_Q said:

MagicPigDetective said:

I think it comes from General 'Stonewall' Jackson in the American Civil War, for holding off the Union army like an, errr, stone wall?

Got nothing to do with "there was contact, so he was justified in going down", though, has it? If anything, you'd be a stone wall if you managed to stay on your feet.

I think football's probably got more in common with the Stonewall riots than it has with Stonewall Jackson.

I was explaining one possible source for the term, but in the sense of it meaning being obstructive. I'm in agreement with you. I don't understand it's application in the football penalty sense either. I suppose it's by now a football-ism that has caught on.

Yeah, sorry, my reply wasn't intended to sound so argumentative.

MagicPigDetective · April 2022

Philly_Q said:

MagicPigDetective said:

Philly_Q said:

MagicPigDetective said:

I think it comes from General 'Stonewall' Jackson in the American Civil War, for holding off the Union army like an, errr, stone wall?

Got nothing to do with "there was contact, so he was justified in going down", though, has it? If anything, you'd be a stone wall if you managed to stay on your feet.

I think football's probably got more in common with the Stonewall riots than it has with Stonewall Jackson.

I was explaining one possible source for the term, but in the sense of it meaning being obstructive. I'm in agreement with you. I don't understand it's application in the football penalty sense either. I suppose it's by now a football-ism that has caught on.

Yeah, sorry, my reply wasn't intended to sound so argumentative.

No worries. Anyway, it wasn’t a penalty in my biased opinion

TTony · April 2022

Philly_Q said:

MagicPigDetective said:

Philly_Q said:

MagicPigDetective said:

I think it comes from General 'Stonewall' Jackson in the American Civil War, for holding off the Union army like an, errr, stone wall?

Got nothing to do with "there was contact, so he was justified in going down", though, has it? If anything, you'd be a stone wall if you managed to stay on your feet.

I think football's probably got more in common with the Stonewall riots than it has with Stonewall Jackson.

I was explaining one possible source for the term, but in the sense of it meaning being obstructive. I'm in agreement with you. I don't understand it's application in the football penalty sense either. I suppose it's by now a football-ism that has caught on.

Yeah, sorry, my reply wasn't intended to sound so argumentative.

Yes it was.

:P

DrCornelius · April 2022

Blimey , just watched Man City v Real Madrid . What a game

Not a fan of either club , one for their sudden oil riches (not the fans fault though but I wish the Prem would grow some balls and have a fit and proper persons test that actually works) and the other from what I gather is historical financial favours from successive Spanish governments.

Putting that to one side it was a brilliant game of football with very little tippy tappy probing from City . It was breathtaking at times

TeleMaster · April 2022

TTony said:

TeleMaster said:
It's like if I said I supported Millwall too.

First "proper" game I ever went to watch was Millwall.

Fulham won (3-1).

Good!!!!

TeleMaster · April 2022

DrCornelius said:

Blimey , just watched Man City v Real Madrid . What a game

Not a fan of either club , one for their sudden oil riches (not the fans fault though but I wish the Prem would grow some balls and have a fit and proper persons test that actually works) and the other from what I gather is historical financial favours from successive Spanish governments.

Putting that to one side it was a brilliant game of football with very little tippy tappy probing from City . It was breathtaking at times

My brother just broke his ankle playing grass roots evening footie and he's been watching it in A&E on his phone. He said it was amazing.

markr76 · April 2022

I’ve supported Villa since I was a kid. Much to my Dad’s disgust. He’s a Wolves fan.

My first game was Villa vs Spurs in 1988. Been going ever since. Although I’ve moved from Stratford upon Avon to Brackley because of work. Plus I work a lot of weekends so I don’t get to go as often any more.

Also I’ve been enjoying going to watch Brackley town these days too. Can’t beat a bit of Vanarama North league!

guitars4you · April 2022

I watched the MCFC v RM game last night and what a game - Credit to RM to keep in the game as at 2-0 down and MCFC missed 2 good chances the whole game could have been over - All to play for next Wed night

NorthernGooner · April 2022

I think Foden is the best English player I've seen in years. His speed of thought is amazing,
Two footed too which is still a rarity in our game.

TeleMaster · April 2022

NorthernGooner said:

I think Foden is the best English player I've seen in years. His speed of thought is amazing,
Two footed too which is still a rarity in our game.

Second only to Rice in my opinion.

axisus · April 2022

The Everton thing - it infuriates me that Football officiating is so rubbish. Football is the biggest sport in the world, and yet we can't get the right decision on 'incidents' waaaaaay too many times. VAR is a waste of time, many of the officials are not good enough, and the current system (1 ref, 2 assistants and VAR) is not fit for purpose. Football NEEDS an overhaul.

crunchman · April 2022

Exeter promoted.

Derby matches against the green scum again!

bloodandtears · April 2022

TeleMaster said:

NorthernGooner said:

I think Foden is the best English player I've seen in years. His speed of thought is amazing,
Two footed too which is still a rarity in our game.

Second only to Rice in my opinion.

Record breaking England captain Kane is far more than both of these.. ( yes I'm biased )

Goal scorer extraordinaire and the way he can drop deep and spread a pass is sublime, great defending from corners.. and even played goalie once.

On a different tangent, Grealish is wasted on the bench... when will these players learn?

guitars4you · April 2022

bloodandtears said:

TeleMaster said:

NorthernGooner said:

I think Foden is the best English player I've seen in years. His speed of thought is amazing,
Two footed too which is still a rarity in our game.

Second only to Rice in my opinion.

Record breaking England captain Kane is far more than both of these.. ( yes I'm biased )

Goal scorer extraordinaire and the way he can drop deep and spread a pass is sublime, great defending from corners.. and even played goalie once.

On a different tangent, Grealish is wasted on the bench... when will these players learn?

This 'best' term is not valid - Messi is crap in goal and imagine crap as a center back

Foden is excellent but he needs Rice to graft, tackle, defend - He needs Kane to head in his crosses - It is why it is a team game

But appreciate each player will have different values regarding transfer fees and wages

TeleMaster · April 2022

bloodandtears said:

TeleMaster said:

NorthernGooner said:

I think Foden is the best English player I've seen in years. His speed of thought is amazing,
Two footed too which is still a rarity in our game.

Second only to Rice in my opinion.

Record breaking England captain Kane is far more than both of these.. ( yes I'm biased )

Goal scorer extraordinaire and the way he can drop deep and spread a pass is sublime, great defending from corners.. and even played goalie once.

On a different tangent, Grealish is wasted on the bench... when will these players learn?

We're kind of referring to young players. Kane is great but needs to win something desperately in my opinion.

Nitefly · April 2022

TeleMaster said:

NorthernGooner said:

I think Foden is the best English player I've seen in years. His speed of thought is amazing,
Two footed too which is still a rarity in our game.

Second only to Rice in my opinion.

What, Anneka Rice? That's harsh!

Deadman · April 2022

I’m a Darlington fan. Don’t get to games nowadays as an exile. I get my fix from frequenting various non-league local games. I do get in the zone for Internationals and enjoy watching England ever since the hand of God thing when I first got into it.

Its a lonely old game at the bottom. Much different from all of you talking about life at the top.

Rocker · April 2022

Stonewall penalty is a term that football pundits use extensively on TV programs like Match of the Day. I did not invent the word.....

Philly_Q · April 2022

Rocker said:

Stonewall penalty is a term that football pundits use extensively on TV programs like Match of the Day. I did not invent the word.....

Not suggesting you did, and as I said in my initial comment it was not aimed specifically at you.
I was just commenting how nonsensical it is.

Bidley · April 2022

Fulham fan here, worried that we've taken our feet off the gas already. Hope Mitrovic turns up next season, although he seems to get found out in the prem.

Hoping I don't have to look forward to another season of celebrating draws and/or conceding less than 3 goals.

scrumhalf · April 2022

I'd have more sympathy for players who complain about poor refereeing if they didn't try to con the ref every time someone blinks within five yards of them.

It used to be the case that only Francis Lee was a known and frequent diver, now most players are at it. And judging by the lack of managers coming out in public and criticising their own players for cheating the refs have the odds stacked against them.

Add in a healthy dose of embittered ex-pros who give us the benefit of their wisdom, which had been assisted by seeing an incident from 94 angles in super slo-mo and you have to wonder when a ref will give a post-match interview and tell all and sundry to stuff a corner flag up their collective arses.

TTony · April 2022

bloodandtears said:

On a different tangent, Grealish is wasted on the bench... when will these players learn?

I'm guessing he got as far as learning to count the number of zeros on his wage deal ...

It's such a waste. So many players, good players, who become the biggest fish in their particular pond (and recognised and respected as such by the fans and their club), who decide that they want the bigger pond.

And suddenly find that there are much bigger fish already there.

How many players have sacrificed their careers in pursuit of the wage packet, or the "squad" glory to which the contribute little?

It's just a waste of their skill, and a loss to their original clubs, and the wider football fans who don't get to watch those players play.

crunchman · April 2022

We need a salary cap. They wouldn't be able to have Grealish sat on the bench then.

TTony · April 2022

Villareal now have 4 ex-Spurs players on the pitch - well, 3 ex-players and 1 on-loan player.

?

bloodandtears · April 2022

TTony said:

Villareal now have 4 ex-Spurs players on the pitch - well, 3 ex-players and 1 on-loan player.

?

And 2 of them have watched this lot before

Bidley · April 2022

TTony said:

bloodandtears said:

On a different tangent, Grealish is wasted on the bench... when will these players learn?

I'm guessing he got as far as learning to count the number of zeros on his wage deal ...

It's such a waste. So many players, good players, who become the biggest fish in their particular pond (and recognised and respected as such by the fans and their club), who decide that they want the bigger pond.

And suddenly find that there are much bigger fish already there.

How many players have sacrificed their careers in pursuit of the wage packet, or the "squad" glory to which the contribute little?

It's just a waste of their skill, and a loss to their original clubs, and the wider football fans who don't get to watch those players play.

Speaking of which, how's Sessegnon getting on? Playing every week I hope.

TTony · April 2022

Bidley said:

TTony said:

bloodandtears said:

On a different tangent, Grealish is wasted on the bench... when will these players learn?

I'm guessing he got as far as learning to count the number of zeros on his wage deal ...

It's such a waste. So many players, good players, who become the biggest fish in their particular pond (and recognised and respected as such by the fans and their club), who decide that they want the bigger pond.

And suddenly find that there are much bigger fish already there.

How many players have sacrificed their careers in pursuit of the wage packet, or the "squad" glory to which the contribute little?

It's just a waste of their skill, and a loss to their original clubs, and the wider football fans who don't get to watch those players play.

Speaking of which, how's Sessegnon getting on? Playing every week I hope.

When he's not been injured ....

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bloodandtears · April 2022

yeah Sess had made the spot his own very recently only to get another injury, poor kid..

guitars4you · April 2022

TTony said:

Bidley said:

Speaking of which, how's Sessegnon getting on? Playing every week I hope.

When he's not been injured ....

and 10 mill for Jack Clarke was a good move as well Tony !

bloodandtears · April 2022

We've bought some duffers that's for sure... Ndombele for starters...

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