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TTony · May 2022

axisus said:

however, it looks like City could be even better next season with Haarland, if they win 7 out of 8, or even more then that isn't good at all.

Don't see how he'll make them any worse.

blobb · May 2022

Fair play to the Wolves, they turned up alright. Shame about losing Neto so early though. Congrats to those that got what they wanted today, commiserations to those that didn't.

axisus · May 2022

TTony said:

axisus said:

however, it looks like City could be even better next season with Haarland, if they win 7 out of 8, or even more then that isn't good at all.

Don't see how he'll make them any worse.

Well, there's a chance, not every expensive player does well in the Prem. (unlikely, I know!).

guitars4you · May 2022

Don't you know pump it up the whites are staying up

Never expected that and I suppose a thanks to the Toons is now in order

Just one point for any of those who have already seen it, or will do so later on MOTD - Canos was sent off - But really the sending off wasn't to do with a 2nd yellow card for a foul, it was for acting the total prat when taking your shirt off when you scored the goal - In context of a fine season for Brentford, no need for such a celebration, as that goal meant little/nothing in the grand scheme of things - So why are some of these guys just total nob heads at such moments - Totally pointless

jellyroll · May 2022

Brilliant City win. Never in doubt

tony99 · May 2022

axisus said:

tony99 said:

Brother told me Everton should have had a blatant pen against man city when they played them. I wonder if it would have all played out differently if so.

The season is full of rubbish, game changing poor decisions, however, every team has an ENTIRE season to accumulate points. There can be no tears over the odd mugging.

For any neutral it was an amazing end to the season. Unfortunately City winning is not necessarily good for the league - same team winning 4 out of the last 5 seasons. It's not a disaster, Man U have done that in the prem three times before, however, it looks like City could be even better next season with Haarland, if they win 7 out of 8, or even more then that isn't good at all.

I'm not sure what you mean.

Lestratcaster · May 2022

Congratulations to Man City on winning the title, Liverpool pushed them to the final day, but in the end I think they were the best team. De Bruyne has been quality all season and deserves his award.

Never saw Norwich beating Tottenham unfortunately so our win was in vain vs Everton. Alot of work is needed in the summer to rebuild the team esp the frontline. I can see Laca, Pepe and possibly Nketiah leaving (though I think he should stay as backup at least). The team is going to be built round Odegaard I presume.

Cruel on Burnley to go down like that but what a fightback from Leeds. This really is the best league in the world as there's never any guarantees.

Oh and the new shirt is a bit crap. Don't like the collar.

Philly_Q · May 2022

Lestratcaster said:

Oh and the new shirt is a bit crap. Don't like the collar.

I don't buy football shirts, but I hate all the ones with collars. I've never understood why clubs always seem to alternate between round neck one year, collar the next.

Lestratcaster · May 2022

Philly_Q said:

Lestratcaster said:

Oh and the new shirt is a bit crap. Don't like the collar.

I don't buy football shirts, but I hate all the ones with collars. I've never understood why clubs always seem to alternate between round neck one year, collar the next.

I haven't bought a shirt for about 15 years now. Last kit I owned was 2006/07 I think. I really don't like this one though.

TeleMaster · May 2022

I buy the home and away most years and sometimes the third kit. West Hams away kit is the nicest kit I've seen in a long time from any club. Next year's isn't as nice.

UnclePsychosis · May 2022

axisus said:

tony99 said:

Brother told me Everton should have had a blatant pen against man city when they played them. I wonder if it would have all played out differently if so.

The season is full of rubbish, game changing poor decisions, however, every team has an ENTIRE season to accumulate points. There can be no tears over the odd mugging.

For any neutral it was an amazing end to the season. Unfortunately City winning is not necessarily good for the league - same team winning 4 out of the last 5 seasons. It's not a disaster, Man U have done that in the prem three times before, however, it looks like City could be even better next season with Haarland, if they win 7 out of 8, or even more then that isn't good at all.

It wasn't popular when I pointed it out earlier in the thread but English football is now going the same way as everywhere else - domination from a tiny number of super rich clubs.

From the same number of games, Man City took the same number of points as Celtic, and with a superior goal difference. And that's with Celtic playing in a supposed "Mickey Mouse League". Liverpool almost matched them. Nobody else will win it any time soon.

tony99 · May 2022

UnclePsychosis said:

axisus said:

tony99 said:

Brother told me Everton should have had a blatant pen against man city when they played them. I wonder if it would have all played out differently if so.

The season is full of rubbish, game changing poor decisions, however, every team has an ENTIRE season to accumulate points. There can be no tears over the odd mugging.

For any neutral it was an amazing end to the season. Unfortunately City winning is not necessarily good for the league - same team winning 4 out of the last 5 seasons. It's not a disaster, Man U have done that in the prem three times before, however, it looks like City could be even better next season with Haarland, if they win 7 out of 8, or even more then that isn't good at all.

It wasn't popular when I pointed it out earlier in the thread but English football is now going the same way as everywhere else - domination from a tiny number of super rich clubs.

From the same number of games, Man City took the same number of points as Celtic, and with a superior goal difference. And that's with Celtic playing in a supposed "Mickey Mouse League". Liverpool almost matched them. Nobody else will win it any time soon.

It's why I was a fan of the european super league idea; a sort of forlorn hope that the 6 clubs who tried it on would have gone on to seek their riches elsewhere and leave the english leagues alone to become something closer to what we had previously.

Suppose it is just a coincidence that the 6 clubs who tried it are those who finished top 6 in the prem.

CavemanGrogg · May 2022

UnclePsychosis said:

axisus said:

tony99 said:

Brother told me Everton should have had a blatant pen against man city when they played them. I wonder if it would have all played out differently if so.

The season is full of rubbish, game changing poor decisions, however, every team has an ENTIRE season to accumulate points. There can be no tears over the odd mugging.

For any neutral it was an amazing end to the season. Unfortunately City winning is not necessarily good for the league - same team winning 4 out of the last 5 seasons. It's not a disaster, Man U have done that in the prem three times before, however, it looks like City could be even better next season with Haarland, if they win 7 out of 8, or even more then that isn't good at all.

It wasn't popular when I pointed it out earlier in the thread but English football is now going the same way as everywhere else - domination from a tiny number of super rich clubs.

From the same number of games, Man City took the same number of points as Celtic, and with a superior goal difference. And that's with Celtic playing in a supposed "Mickey Mouse League". Liverpool almost matched them. Nobody else will win it any time soon.

Mickey Mouse league? Celtic was the first team to win the treble for crying out loud. Next you'll be telling us that a proper newspaper has the tits on the front pages and no the back pages.

But I agree, the EPL is getting pretty predictable, you pretty much know which teams are going to finish in the top 6, top 4 really if you follow the sport. And I have to say, the recemt pitch invasions, attacks on players and managers during these pitch invasionsd has been shocking, I can honestlt see barriers being reintroduced if this trend keeps up, and if they are reintroduced, I do not see them coming down again even if fans get hurt or crushed to death against them again.

tony99 · May 2022

CavemanGrogg said:

UnclePsychosis said:

axisus said:

tony99 said:

Brother told me Everton should have had a blatant pen against man city when they played them. I wonder if it would have all played out differently if so.

The season is full of rubbish, game changing poor decisions, however, every team has an ENTIRE season to accumulate points. There can be no tears over the odd mugging.

For any neutral it was an amazing end to the season. Unfortunately City winning is not necessarily good for the league - same team winning 4 out of the last 5 seasons. It's not a disaster, Man U have done that in the prem three times before, however, it looks like City could be even better next season with Haarland, if they win 7 out of 8, or even more then that isn't good at all.

It wasn't popular when I pointed it out earlier in the thread but English football is now going the same way as everywhere else - domination from a tiny number of super rich clubs.

From the same number of games, Man City took the same number of points as Celtic, and with a superior goal difference. And that's with Celtic playing in a supposed "Mickey Mouse League". Liverpool almost matched them. Nobody else will win it any time soon.

Mickey Mouse league? Celtic was the first team to win the treble for crying out loud. Next you'll be telling us that a proper newspaper has the tits on the front pages and no the back pages.

But I agree, the EPL is getting pretty predictable, you pretty much know which teams are going to finish in the top 6, top 4 really if you follow the sport. And I have to say, the recemt pitch invasions, attacks on players and managers during these pitch invasionsd has been shocking, I can honestlt see barriers being reintroduced if this trend keeps up, and if they are reintroduced, I do not see them coming down again even if fans get hurt or crushed to death against them again.

oh my has a manager been attacked as well?

CavemanGrogg · May 2022

tony99 said:

CavemanGrogg said:

UnclePsychosis said:

axisus said:

tony99 said:

Brother told me Everton should have had a blatant pen against man city when they played them. I wonder if it would have all played out differently if so.

The season is full of rubbish, game changing poor decisions, however, every team has an ENTIRE season to accumulate points. There can be no tears over the odd mugging.

For any neutral it was an amazing end to the season. Unfortunately City winning is not necessarily good for the league - same team winning 4 out of the last 5 seasons. It's not a disaster, Man U have done that in the prem three times before, however, it looks like City could be even better next season with Haarland, if they win 7 out of 8, or even more then that isn't good at all.

It wasn't popular when I pointed it out earlier in the thread but English football is now going the same way as everywhere else - domination from a tiny number of super rich clubs.

From the same number of games, Man City took the same number of points as Celtic, and with a superior goal difference. And that's with Celtic playing in a supposed "Mickey Mouse League". Liverpool almost matched them. Nobody else will win it any time soon.

Mickey Mouse league? Celtic was the first team to win the treble for crying out loud. Next you'll be telling us that a proper newspaper has the tits on the front pages and no the back pages.

But I agree, the EPL is getting pretty predictable, you pretty much know which teams are going to finish in the top 6, top 4 really if you follow the sport. And I have to say, the recemt pitch invasions, attacks on players and managers during these pitch invasionsd has been shocking, I can honestlt see barriers being reintroduced if this trend keeps up, and if they are reintroduced, I do not see them coming down again even if fans get hurt or crushed to death against them again.

oh my has a manager been attacked as well?

Yes, happened this week, couldn't tell you who it was though, I don't really follow the sport, some idiot charged at him, the manager defended himself by kicking the idiot, and now I believe the manager is facing an assualt charge, while the idio is getting off scott free.

tony99 · May 2022

CavemanGrogg said:

tony99 said:

CavemanGrogg said:

UnclePsychosis said:

axisus said:

tony99 said:

Brother told me Everton should have had a blatant pen against man city when they played them. I wonder if it would have all played out differently if so.

The season is full of rubbish, game changing poor decisions, however, every team has an ENTIRE season to accumulate points. There can be no tears over the odd mugging.

For any neutral it was an amazing end to the season. Unfortunately City winning is not necessarily good for the league - same team winning 4 out of the last 5 seasons. It's not a disaster, Man U have done that in the prem three times before, however, it looks like City could be even better next season with Haarland, if they win 7 out of 8, or even more then that isn't good at all.

It wasn't popular when I pointed it out earlier in the thread but English football is now going the same way as everywhere else - domination from a tiny number of super rich clubs.

From the same number of games, Man City took the same number of points as Celtic, and with a superior goal difference. And that's with Celtic playing in a supposed "Mickey Mouse League". Liverpool almost matched them. Nobody else will win it any time soon.

Mickey Mouse league? Celtic was the first team to win the treble for crying out loud. Next you'll be telling us that a proper newspaper has the tits on the front pages and no the back pages.

But I agree, the EPL is getting pretty predictable, you pretty much know which teams are going to finish in the top 6, top 4 really if you follow the sport. And I have to say, the recemt pitch invasions, attacks on players and managers during these pitch invasionsd has been shocking, I can honestlt see barriers being reintroduced if this trend keeps up, and if they are reintroduced, I do not see them coming down again even if fans get hurt or crushed to death against them again.

oh my has a manager been attacked as well?

Yes, happened this week, couldn't tell you who it was though, I don't really follow the sport, some idiot charged at him, the manager defended himself by kicking the idiot, and now I believe the manager is facing an assualt charge, while the idio is getting off scott free.

You know what happened but you don't know whom it happened to ?

CavemanGrogg · May 2022

tony99 said:

CavemanGrogg said:

tony99 said:

CavemanGrogg said:

UnclePsychosis said:

axisus said:

tony99 said:

Brother told me Everton should have had a blatant pen against man city when they played them. I wonder if it would have all played out differently if so.

The season is full of rubbish, game changing poor decisions, however, every team has an ENTIRE season to accumulate points. There can be no tears over the odd mugging.

For any neutral it was an amazing end to the season. Unfortunately City winning is not necessarily good for the league - same team winning 4 out of the last 5 seasons. It's not a disaster, Man U have done that in the prem three times before, however, it looks like City could be even better next season with Haarland, if they win 7 out of 8, or even more then that isn't good at all.

It wasn't popular when I pointed it out earlier in the thread but English football is now going the same way as everywhere else - domination from a tiny number of super rich clubs.

From the same number of games, Man City took the same number of points as Celtic, and with a superior goal difference. And that's with Celtic playing in a supposed "Mickey Mouse League". Liverpool almost matched them. Nobody else will win it any time soon.

Mickey Mouse league? Celtic was the first team to win the treble for crying out loud. Next you'll be telling us that a proper newspaper has the tits on the front pages and no the back pages.

But I agree, the EPL is getting pretty predictable, you pretty much know which teams are going to finish in the top 6, top 4 really if you follow the sport. And I have to say, the recemt pitch invasions, attacks on players and managers during these pitch invasionsd has been shocking, I can honestlt see barriers being reintroduced if this trend keeps up, and if they are reintroduced, I do not see them coming down again even if fans get hurt or crushed to death against them again.

oh my has a manager been attacked as well?

Yes, happened this week, couldn't tell you who it was though, I don't really follow the sport, some idiot charged at him, the manager defended himself by kicking the idiot, and now I believe the manager is facing an assualt charge, while the idio is getting off scott free.

You know what happened but you don't know whom it happened to ?

The only reason why I ''watch'' football is so that the town's Englishman doesn't text me a running commentry on matches, it's better to sit next to him in the pub and pretend I'm interested, than to not, and have my phone going off every 2 minutres during matches. So 90% of the time I couldn't even tell you who's playing the match we're watching. The only things I know about football are what the Google results for ''how to wind up a Spurs fan'' is, and even then, it's only the first few links that I've had a quick look at. And yes, we, the women I'm sort of seeing, the Englishman, a few friends and myself regulary go to watch the local team play in what ever division they're in, and to this day I don't know what our local team is called, nor what division they play in, or their place in that divisions table.

Moloch · May 2022

It was Patrick Vieira.

usedtobe · May 2022

One point, and five goals between the top two, and then an eighteen point drop down to the third place club.

I suppose one difference between EPL and SPL is that the ‘only two teams that can possibly win’ changes periodically, in England, and stays the same in Scotland.

It’s not necessarily something English fans should be crowing about, either, or decrying other leagues over. It looks as unhealthy a situation as all the other leagues where the title is pretty much a closed shop, to me.. If it’s not there, yet, it’s very much going that way..

TeleMaster · May 2022

Moloch said:

It was Patrick Vieira.

I wouldn't say that he was 'attacked' . He got shouted at and insulted, and someone was pretty much goading him and when the guy ran off he kicked out at the guy. Then someone pushed him away. He's obviously antagonised because someone is in his face and his team had been beat, but he kicked out at the guy as he had his back turned. Ultimately, it was a big load of nothing.

DrCornelius · May 2022

TeleMaster said:

Moloch said:

It was Patrick Vieira.

I wouldn't say that he was 'attacked' . He got shouted at and insulted, and someone was pretty much goading him and when the guy ran off he kicked out at the guy. Then someone pushed him away. He's obviously antagonised because someone is in his face and his team had been beat, but he kicked out at the guy as he had his back turned. Ultimately, it was a big load of nothing.

He had no option but to walk across the pitch at the end of the game as the other exits were closed due to ‘covid security’ apparently .It’s a ridiculous situation for him to be in and I hope he doesn’t get in trouble for it. The stupid chav filming himself insulting Vieira an sticking his middle finger right in his face deserved worse - a bit like that idiot who got his mate to film him provoking mike Tyson on a plane last month.

Some people shouldn’t be allowed to have camera phones as they just want to share brainless videos of them being twats as they think it’s cool

jellyroll · May 2022

The anti City rhetoric ( “they’re ruining the league ”) is conveniently short on historical fact…

Apart from a one year break for Blackburn, the league was won by one of two teams every year between1992 and 2004. Then in 2004/5 Chelsea broke through and Arsenal dropped out and and it became a different 2 horse race until City won it in 2012.

No doubt City’s current dominance will run its course. Plus ca change….

TeleMaster · May 2022

DrCornelius said:

TeleMaster said:

Moloch said:

It was Patrick Vieira.

I wouldn't say that he was 'attacked' . He got shouted at and insulted, and someone was pretty much goading him and when the guy ran off he kicked out at the guy. Then someone pushed him away. He's obviously antagonised because someone is in his face and his team had been beat, but he kicked out at the guy as he had his back turned. Ultimately, it was a big load of nothing.

He had no option but to walk across the pitch at the end of the game as the other exits were closed due to ‘covid security’ apparently .It’s a ridiculous situation for him to be in and I hope he doesn’t get in trouble for it. The stupid chav filming himself insulting Vieira an sticking his middle finger right in his face deserved worse - a bit like that idiot who got his mate to film him provoking mike Tyson on a plane last month.

Some people shouldn’t be allowed to have camera phones as they just want to share brainless videos of them being twats as they think it’s cool

Yea I agree. You can't blame him for lashing out after that provocation and in all honesty, it was pretty tame wasn't it.

tony99 · May 2022

Disappointing from Liverpool FC and the city council to have the team's victory parade on the anniversary of the Heysel Stadium disaster; thought the club themselves might have been a bit more sensitive about that.

DefaultM · May 2022

Here's the perfect anti gambling advert.

Before the season started I put a bet on Monaco to win Ligue 1 without PSG (so basically to come 2nd).
A bit in to the season they weren't doing great and I thought no chance, but then I watched as they went on an unbeaten run and eventually got in to 2nd place behind PSG.

I was pretty excited about this bet as I thought it was a great feat for them, so the last game I watched along with the stats.
It gets to injury time and they're winning 2-1, and 5 minutes is to be added. I couldn't look, so I locked my phone and went to do something.

I returned 10 minutes later to find that there had in fact been 6 minutes of injury time not 5, and they'd conceded a goal in this 6th minute; drawing the game and finishing the season in 3rd place behind Marseille.

TeleMaster · May 2022

DefaultM said:

Here's the perfect anti gambling advert.

Before the season started I put a bet on Monaco to win Ligue 1 without PSG (so basically to come 2nd).
A bit in to the season they weren't doing great and I thought no chance, but then I watched as they went on an unbeaten run and eventually got in to 2nd place behind PSG.

I was pretty excited about this bet as I thought it was a great feat for them, so the last game I watched along with the stats.
It gets to injury time and they're winning 2-1, and 5 minutes is to be added. I couldn't look, so I locked my phone and went to do something.

I returned 10 minutes later to find that there had in fact been 6 minutes of injury time not 5, and they'd conceded a goal in this 6th minute; drawing the game and finishing the season in 3rd place behind Marseille.

I thought the Paul Merston documentary was powerful but yea, that's convinced me.

Bidley · May 2022

Fabio Carvalho's gone to Liverpool then. Hope he enjoys his handful of Carabao Cup games over the next few years before ending up somewhere like Steaua Bucharest.

TeleMaster · May 2022

Bidley said:

Fabio Carvalho's gone to Liverpool then. Hope he enjoys his handful of Carabao Cup games over the next few years before ending up somewhere like Steaua Bucharest.

At the point of his career he's probably happy to be paid as well as he is going to be.

Philly_Q · May 2022

TeleMaster said:

Bidley said:

Fabio Carvalho's gone to Liverpool then. Hope he enjoys his handful of Carabao Cup games over the next few years before ending up somewhere like Steaua Bucharest.

At the point of his career he's probably happy to be paid as well as he is going to be.

Money aside, I'm always surprised by footballers who decide to go from being a big (or even potentially) big fish in a small pond to being a minnow in a big pond.

But I guess professional sportspeople are a different breed. They all have to believe that they're capable of making it to the very top, or they probably wouldn't make it at all. It's only late in their careers that they realise their limitations and settle for a steady income somewhere in League One.

DefaultM · May 2022

TeleMaster said:
I thought the Paul Merston documentary was powerful but yea, that's convinced me.

I've not seen it, does he win?

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