Fretboard Jam - 2017 Leicester - 2nd September - Running Order V4 Now up!!

digitalscream · August 2017

Nikko said:
There will be some very talented/experienced players at the jam day, and although I know it will be a non-judgemental environment, I cant help putting just a little extra pressure on myself.

Speaking from my own experience...that pressure is how you make giant leaps in your playing and performance skills.

Bridgehouse · August 2017

Nikko said:

Ive actually played live in a gig situation 3 times, but they have all been student gigs for the Music School I go to for my weekly lesson. The difference between those and this jam day, are that EVERYONE from the school is shit so it doesn't matter if im a little shit. Theres no pressure (other than what I place on myself out of self respect).
There will be some very talented/experienced players at the jam day, and although I know it will be a non-judgemental environment, I cant help putting just a little extra pressure on myself.
Probably just being a whiney bitch. ignore me

Well, it might be worth seeing it from my perspective. I'm active as a bass player. Weekly rehearsals, gigs in all sorts of different, unusual and challenging places (like the YNOT Mudfest, where just getting to the venue was enough of a challenge!)

I've gigged for a lot of years, I've probably played well over 500 gigs in my time now on a variety of instruments, with a variety of musicians, and in a variety of circumstances.

But, for any given gig, it's backed up by rehearsals, practice and familiarity with the musicians you are playing with. A rehearsal is very different to a Jam day.

Thinking about it, once the song list is sorted for order, I suspect I will be down to do the first song of the day to help ease the pressure on others, and that means that when that song starts it'll be the first time I've actually played a note with @Octatonic on drums - it may take seconds to lock in with him, or a whole songs worth. Who knows..!

It's going to be just as much of an unknown for us as it is for all the less experienced guys..

Bridgehouse · August 2017

digitalscream said:

Nikko said:
There will be some very talented/experienced players at the jam day, and although I know it will be a non-judgemental environment, I cant help putting just a little extra pressure on myself.

Speaking from my own experience...that pressure is how you make giant leaps in your playing and performance skills.

+100.

This was our intention for the Jam day. Have a go. Get out there and stretch yourself massively. Feel nervous. Do a lot of prep and work out how to get over the fear of the unknown.

I'll play some bum notes. We all will. To be honest, I'm not a better bass player than any other bass players I know. I know a lot of really good bass players who are a lot better than me.

What I do have is experience of playing a competent bass line, or any number of other instruments reasonably competently in a variety of settings with a variety of musicians - and when the chips are down, your gigging experience is often just as important as your technical ability.

A good friend of mine from some years back was an absolutely incredible guitarist - probably the most talented guy I've heard up close. But put him on a stage on his own, or with others and he fell to pieces completely. Shocking. Sounded awful. He was put off a few times and never went back to it. Such a shame as well, as some decent experience would have got him over it.

Nikko · August 2017

Thanks chaps.

I know im probably overthinking it, and adding unnecessary pressure on myself, as I know that no-one at the jam day will be putting any pressure on me.

Bridgehouse · August 2017

Nikko said:

Thanks chaps.
I know im probably overthinking it, and adding unnecessary pressure on myself, as I know that no-one at the jam day will be putting any pressure on me.

The pressure is a good thing - embrace it - that's where the learning and improving is at!!

Nikko · August 2017

Yep. Practice for the fear of falling on your arse in front of a room full of strangers

Legionreturns · August 2017

I know exactly how shit I am. I also know from my limited experience how much my shitness can be hidden in the mix of a loud band

Alnico · August 2017

Nikko said:

Yep. Practice for the fear of falling on your arse in front of a room full of strangers

Yes but when everyone is in that position it makes the pressure a little easier to handle.
That's the point of it being a safe environment.
No one will mock you if you do but trying not to is what you should aim for.
This is a taste of what it's like in a real band.
When it's done in front of a critical audience the pressure is unbelievable so what we're trying to do is show everyone that if they can conquer this (which they can) then there's still many levels ahead of them and many different experiences waiting for them in 'Real Bands'.

This is an ice breaker.
A confidence booster.
For many it's going to be the start of a journey, one we hope will continue until they themselves are facing a real audience and looking back on their first Jam with us and smiling.

digitalscream · August 2017

Nikko said:

Yep. Practice for the fear of falling on your arse in front of a room full of strangers

I know for a fact that I'm going to fail hard - the long instrumental section in the middle of Cupid's Dead is a killer for somebody of my suspect memory.

I'm just hoping that watching one of the supposed "experienced players" faceplant is going to make everyone else relax a bit

Bridgehouse · August 2017

The first time I played live I was 15. It was me on acoustic guitar and a female vocalist. There were about 100 people in the audience.

I absolutely hated it - it was utterly terrifying.

However, I got a dozen or so nice reassuring and affirming comments afterwards and it made every minute of pain worth it.

Next time, same setup, and I actually enjoyed it a bit.

Legionreturns · August 2017

digitalscream said:

Nikko said:

Yep. Practice for the fear of falling on your arse in front of a room full of strangers

I know for a fact that I'm going to fail hard - the long instrumental section in the middle of Cupid's Dead is a killer for somebody of my suspect memory.

I'm just hoping that watching one of the supposed "experienced players" faceplant is going to make everyone else relax a bit

You've not got to sing it! I'll be making a cuppa during the instrumental section and not get back to the mic in time. Might even fall asleep!

Bridgehouse · August 2017

digitalscream said:
I'm just hoping that watching one of the supposed "experienced players" faceplant is going to make everyone else relax a bit

Always happy to oblige where my face plant services are needed

digitalscream · August 2017

Bridgehouse said:

digitalscream said:
I'm just hoping that watching one of the supposed "experienced players" faceplant is going to make everyone else relax a bit

Always happy to oblige where my face plant services are needed

The more the merrier!

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TheBlueWolf · August 2017

I'm bricking it too lol

I haven't played with others for too long so I'm using this as an opportunity to get back out of my comfort zone as well as a chance to talk gear and stuff in real life.

There's a 100% certainty that I'll make loads of mistakes on the day but I'm hoping you reprobates will be kind enough to not point while laughing lol

TTony · August 2017

digitalscream said:

Nikko said:
There will be some very talented/experienced players at the jam day, and although I know it will be a non-judgemental environment, I cant help putting just a little extra pressure on myself.

Speaking from my own experience...that pressure is how you make giant leaps in your playing and performance skills.

Surprisingly, I seem to remember that my playing skills were directly - and positively - correlated with the amount of alcohol drunk.

My playing got better and better the more the audience drank.

TheBlueWolf · August 2017

TTony said:

digitalscream said:

Nikko said:
There will be some very talented/experienced players at the jam day, and although I know it will be a non-judgemental environment, I cant help putting just a little extra pressure on myself.

Speaking from my own experience...that pressure is how you make giant leaps in your playing and performance skills.
Surprisingly, I seem to remember that my playing skills were directly - and positively - correlated with the amount of alcohol drunk.

My playing got better and better the more the audience drank.

In that case drinks are on me!

Bridgehouse · August 2017

Anyway, the "audience" will be too preoccupied gearbating

fandango · August 2017

digitalscream said:

Bridgehouse said:

digitalscream said:
I'm just hoping that watching one of the supposed "experienced players" faceplant is going to make everyone else relax a bit

Always happy to oblige where my face plant services are needed

The more the merrier!

This clip is a great metaphor ... there'll be some who just about make a stand, there'll be some who stumble and pretend that they are the greatest .. and there'll be the rest of you who'll bang your head in shame.

Looking forward to it. Even though work reduces my practice time, I am trying. Very trying.

Do the fandango go go go go !!!!!!!!!!!!

TTony · August 2017

fandango said:

This clip is a great metaphor ...

We've got way better t-shirts than them.

Nikko · August 2017

Prove it!

slacker · August 2017

As we are having a little confessional....

I played bass for many years but am a bit rusty as I mainly play acoustic guitar. My lead playing is rubbish and for the years I've been playing shocking.

Put me down in the bricking it department. Not only have I got to solo in front of guitarists I'm playing bass for them as well. So I'm looking to improve even if I cock it up I'm hoping someone will tell me where I'm going wrong. Also because I can play bass I'll feel less of a fraud if I can support someones guitar playing.

As an ex bassist playing guitar, I can assure you that there's nothing like a cooking rhythm section to inspire you to play better.

Alnico · August 2017

Attendance Update:

@Handsome_Chris has had to pull out so his place has now been taken by the person at the top of the reserve list...

@HPhillipsmusic ;
Could you PM Chris to send him his £8 Back, please?
......and welcome to the mayhem! We'll see you on the day,............get practising!!

So the reserve list now looks like this:

Now,..........There's still 3 weeks to go (3 weeks this Saturday) and when I added @TimmyO, for example, he was either number 6 or number 8 on the reserve list, now he's next in line so for people looking at this and possibly thinking it's not worth it now, it's too late........I would say No, it's not. Tim has gone from the bottom of the list to the top in around 2 weeks and there's still the potential for life to get in the way of people attending PLUS all those who don't get a place and got left on the reserve list on the day will be automatically offered first dibs on places for the next jam, before we let the screaming hoards loose on them, so it's still worth doing.

Thanks everyone.

paulnb57 · August 2017

Nikko said:

Bridgehouse said:

paulnb57 said:

Late to the party, shame It's so far away from me, well done to the organisers.....such a great, supportive idea.......I wish it every success!....

There will be a down south version run later on - I think we will probably go for mid-south so we can capture SE, SW and right proper south like you

I think you mean daaan saaaf. In case you are not familiar with this, I will use it in a sentence.
"It would be bang tidy to have another jam sesh daaan saaaf"

Stone the crows Mary Poppins, diamond geeza, if the bit o work comes orff oil be down the apples and on me boik, sweet as a nut guvna!

Bridgehouse · August 2017

paulnb57 said:

Nikko said:

Bridgehouse said:

paulnb57 said:

Late to the party, shame It's so far away from me, well done to the organisers.....such a great, supportive idea.......I wish it every success!....

There will be a down south version run later on - I think we will probably go for mid-south so we can capture SE, SW and right proper south like you

I think you mean daaan saaaf. In case you are not familiar with this, I will use it in a sentence.
"It would be bang tidy to have another jam sesh daaan saaaf"

Stone the crows Mary Poppins, diamond geeza, if the bit o work comes orff oil be down the apples and on me boik, sweet as a nut guvna!

What did he say, Lamb?

Plectrum · August 2017

Bridgehouse said:

paulnb57 said:

Stone the crows Mary Poppins, diamond geeza, if the bit o work comes orff oil be down the apples and on me boik, sweet as a nut guvna!

What did he say, Lamb?

I think he may be a Time Lord who has just been regenerated as Dick Van Dyke

Bridgehouse · August 2017

Plectrum said:

Bridgehouse said:

paulnb57 said:

Stone the crows Mary Poppins, diamond geeza, if the bit o work comes orff oil be down the apples and on me boik, sweet as a nut guvna!

What did he say, Lamb?

I think he may be a Time Lord who has just been regenerated as Dick Van Dyke

If Sir Gregory hears him talking like that he will get the sack!

Roland · August 2017

The good news for @TimmyO is that family commitments mean I have to pull out.

Alnico · August 2017

Roland said:

The good news for @TimmyO is that family commitments mean I have to pull out.

That's a shame but thanks for letting us know.

I'll adjust the list again now.

Alnico · August 2017

Ok,

Latest update is that @Roland has pulled out and @TimmyO is now in his place.

Tim if you can contact Roland to send him £8 that would be great.

Reserve list now looks like this:

Roland · August 2017

@TimmyO My £8 belongs in TheFretBoard funds rather than my pocket

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