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  • crunchmancrunchman Frets: 10961
    Gassage said:
    Funniest thing I've come across for quite a while.
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  • RandallFlaggRandallFlagg Frets: 13679
    edited August 2017

    While we wait for the next Test, have a look at this:


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  • GassageGassage Frets: 30192

    Just rang Keaton Jennings;

    Apparently he's just popped out but I've been asked to hold on as he'll be back shortly


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  • crunchmancrunchman Frets: 10961
    Gassage said:

    Just rang Keaton Jennings;

    Apparently he's just popped out but I've been asked to hold on as he'll be back shortly


    If Hameed doesn't recover his form, who would you bring in?  Stoneman?
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  • GassageGassage Frets: 30192
    crunchman said:
    Gassage said:

    Just rang Keaton Jennings;

    Apparently he's just popped out but I've been asked to hold on as he'll be back shortly


    If Hameed doesn't recover his form, who would you bring in?  Stoneman?
    It's such a tough one.

    Stoneman is 30 and has a very average record.
    Hales has no idea where his offstump is and leaves poorly

    Hales however is proven against international bowling.

    James Hildreth should've been looked at when Strauss retired.

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  • crunchmancrunchman Frets: 10961
    Gassage said:
    crunchman said:
    Gassage said:

    Just rang Keaton Jennings;

    Apparently he's just popped out but I've been asked to hold on as he'll be back shortly


    If Hameed doesn't recover his form, who would you bring in?  Stoneman?
    It's such a tough one.

    Stoneman is 30 and has a very average record.
    Hales has no idea where his offstump is and leaves poorly

    Hales however is proven against international bowling.

    James Hildreth should've been looked at when Strauss retired.
    Hildreth has never opened for Somerset though.

    Stoneman's stats have suffered from playing a lot of cricket in very bowler friendly conditions at Durham.

    Now we're writing him off, Jennings will probably get 150 today.
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  • GassageGassage Frets: 30192
    crunchman said:
    Gassage said:
    crunchman said:
    Gassage said:

    Just rang Keaton Jennings;

    Apparently he's just popped out but I've been asked to hold on as he'll be back shortly


    If Hameed doesn't recover his form, who would you bring in?  Stoneman?
    It's such a tough one.

    Stoneman is 30 and has a very average record.
    Hales has no idea where his offstump is and leaves poorly

    Hales however is proven against international bowling.

    James Hildreth should've been looked at when Strauss retired.
    Hildreth has never opened for Somerset though.

    Stoneman's stats have suffered from playing a lot of cricket in very bowler friendly conditions at Durham.

    Now we're writing him off, Jennings will probably get 150 today.
    Point taken re Durham, but from personal experience that wicket is a road when no overhead cloud.

    Jennings has time on the ball, huge asset. He needs to commit to front or back foot as he does tend to play in 'two man's land' at times, evidenced by getting out caught in the 3rd/4th slip area - a sure sign of propping forward when you maybe should be back.

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  • GassageGassage Frets: 30192
    @crunchman I rest my case re Jennings and playing half-way forward.

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  • crunchmancrunchman Frets: 10961
    Gassage said:
    @crunchman I rest my case re Jennings and playing half-way forward.
    Bring Strauss out of retirement.  He couldn't do much worse, and at least it would stop all the other damage he's been doing.  I just checked the Lancashire fixtures to see when Hameed will next get to play a first class game, and they don't have a County Championship fixture until 28th August.
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  • crunchmancrunchman Frets: 10961
    West Indies team ???!!!****????

    The greatest fast bowling team in history, and they have 2 spinners and Jason Holder in their bowling attack (at Headingley).  For all their batting woes in the last test, this shows the depth of their decline more than anything.
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  • cj73cj73 Frets: 1002
    They seem to be doing ok today......
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    cj73 said:
    They seem to be doing ok today......
    Wear down Roach and Gabriel and then Stokes, Bairstow, Moeen and Woakes can feast off of the others.
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  • GassageGassage Frets: 30192
    You really may as well play Roland-Jones at 9, move everyone up one and get rid of the deadwood like Stoneman and co.

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  • scrumhalfscrumhalf Frets: 10838
    We seem to be reaping the rewards of concentrating on the one-day game when it comes to our batting.
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  • crunchmancrunchman Frets: 10961
    Gassage said:
    You really may as well play Roland-Jones at 9, move everyone up one and get rid of the deadwood like Stoneman and co.
    Malan is just a waste of a space when you are putting someone as good as Woakes down at 9.

    Personally, I'd go for a second spinner rather than a fifth quick bowler though.
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  • GassageGassage Frets: 30192
    crunchman said:
    Gassage said:
    You really may as well play Roland-Jones at 9, move everyone up one and get rid of the deadwood like Stoneman and co.
    Malan is just a waste of a space when you are putting someone as good as Woakes down at 9.

    Personally, I'd go for a second spinner rather than a fifth quick bowler though.
    Agreed, depending on conditions- have the option.

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  • RandallFlaggRandallFlagg Frets: 13679
    Eng v Windies 2nd Test day 3: England nearly 100 behind with 3 more wickets needed. Proper slow dull test conditions, no spark in the England bowling attack. Dull as.

    I'm hoping that by posting that the game springs into life and Broady gets a hat trick!


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  • scrumhalfscrumhalf Frets: 10838
    Looking forward to an interesting last day. Bit of cloud overhead, Anderson in line for his 500th wicket.

    Quite a turn-round from the previous post.
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  • cj73cj73 Frets: 1002
    edited August 2017
    It's squeaky bum time.


    And, why does it look like Anderson is wearing a training bra?
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  • earwighoneyearwighoney Frets: 3380
    One of the greatest test match victories in cricket for a very long time.   Great credit to the Windies, Shai Hope & Brathwaite in particular for some proper test batting.  
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  • scrumhalfscrumhalf Frets: 10838
    Well done Windies, but the Aussies must be having a bit of a chuckle.
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  • HeartfeltdawnHeartfeltdawn Frets: 21788
    £50 up thanks to slipping some cash on a Windies victory :)

    Stoneman doesn't have a stellar first class record but you wouldn't expect someone who played for nearly ten years opening the batting at a seamer-friendly Durham home track to be walking about with a 45+ average. Trescothick didn't come into the Test side with a stellar record, averaging low 30s for five seasons prior to his international debut, and one knock against Glamorgan is what turned Fletcher's head back in the day. Hales is proven against international bowlers operating with fielding restrictions. As you say, no clue about off stump and it wasn't so long ago that the Indians twigged that he's not great against the short ball into the body. Test cricket.. not a hope. 

    Quite honestly, the crowing from some in the England journalist camp was vomit-inducing prior to this Test. So let's dissect some shit:

    -Stoneman: did his job as did Malan in the second innings. The concept of grafting and making ugly runs appeared to be lost to many on Twitter. The West Indies got the ball in the right areas and used the conditions. Even someone like Roston Chase, not someone I rate much as a spinner, got some rip, albeit helped by some English batting that retreated into full EEEK IT'S TURNING mode. It's time to give someone a committed run in the side. After all, we've just seen a West Indian who had a shit average prior to this Test come up with two centuries after the selectors stuck with him. We need to do the same. 


    -Picking Woakes: it's one of the things that I can never understand with successive English management teams. Lost count of the number of times bowlers have been picked far too early after coming back from injury. You saw it clearly a few years ago with Broad when he was down on pace at the World Cup and people wrote him off for good. When you come back from something like a knee injury, you need to get miles in the legs and get the rhythm. Prior to this Test match, since the start of July, Woakes had bowled 35 overs: 15 overs in a 2nd XI game, 20 overs in a CC match. Since the start of May, in all cricket prior to this Test he'd bowled 45 overs, a season wrecked by the injury he sustained at the start of June. I don't care how many net sessions you have, that's never going to get you ready to bowl in a Test match. TRJ should have played. You can get people who are less than physically 100% through a game with injections and physio but if you're not what I think of as match fit as a bowler, you're fucked. 

    -Dismissing the West Indies seam attack. It's not strong but we're not much better. Pull JA and SB out and we're looking shaky again. Wood isn't going to be a long term player for England (sadly), Finn might need some new surroundings as reports are that he might leave Middlesex, Woakes needs some serious overs under his belt now, TRJ will never be a fashionable player, which leaves not much in the reserves. 

    With the day-night Test and this result, you'll continue to have peopel asking how we can make Test cricket better. The answer is simple: you make first-class cricket better. It's why the Windies have been so shit over recent years. They play poor FC cricket on slow turning decks which make shit spinners look like Grimmett and destroy their quick bowlers.





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  • HeartfeltdawnHeartfeltdawn Frets: 21788
    scrumhalf said:
    Well done Windies, but the Aussies must be having a bit of a chuckle.
    I think they'll leave the chuckling until the current match against the Bangla boys is over. 



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  • scrumhalfscrumhalf Frets: 10838
    Michael Holding pointed out how Woakes' left arm was coming down differently during delivery, which indicated he wasn't over his injury yet.

    Broad continues to annoy. He's obviously a decent bowler, having taken that many wickets, but when he's not on song he's really not on song. I get the impression he can't be captained easily, otherwise why does he continue to bowl short when he shouldn't?

    I would have preferred us to not pick our first-choice bowlers for the final test and to give the likes of TRJ, Ball and Finn a run-out, I may be old-school but for me the Ashes is the most important thing in English cricket.
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  • crunchmancrunchman Frets: 10961
    scrumhalf said:
    Well done Windies, but the Aussies must be having a bit of a chuckle.
    I think they'll leave the chuckling until the current match against the Bangla boys is over. 
    Wise words
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  • HeartfeltdawnHeartfeltdawn Frets: 21788
    scrumhalf said:
    Michael Holding pointed out how Woakes' left arm was coming down differently during delivery, which indicated he wasn't over his injury yet.

    Broad continues to annoy. He's obviously a decent bowler, having taken that many wickets, but when he's not on song he's really not on song. I get the impression he can't be captained easily, otherwise why does he continue to bowl short when he shouldn't?

    I would have preferred us to not pick our first-choice bowlers for the final test and to give the likes of TRJ, Ball and Finn a run-out, I may be old-school but for me the Ashes is the most important thing in English cricket.

    It was so obvious from how he was bowling that he was still coming back. The like of Michael Vaughan said that they'd have picked Woakes over TRJ because Woakes was the better bowler. Right now, he isn't. 



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  • HeartfeltdawnHeartfeltdawn Frets: 21788
    crunchman said:
    scrumhalf said:
    Well done Windies, but the Aussies must be having a bit of a chuckle.
    I think they'll leave the chuckling until the current match against the Bangla boys is over. 
    Wise words
    Bangladesh are finally preparing pitches that play to their strengths. We saw that against England, now we're seeing it against Australia. 

    The 'roos now have Starc, Hazlewood, Siddle, and Pattinson on the injured list. The A tour had Jackson Bird, Chadd Sayers, Chris Tremain and Jason Behrendorff as their four main seamers. That's not exactly an intimidating reserve list. 

    Most sides are the same. The reserves aren't that strong. The exception is India who do seem to churn out Test batsmen because their first class game allows batsmen to play long innings. 



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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 69426
    WTF?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/41103549

    Someone thinks they're William Tell?

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

    "Just because I don't care, doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson

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  • crunchmancrunchman Frets: 10961
    edited August 2017
    Edit:  posted in wrong thread.
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  • ICBM said:
    WTF?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/41103549

    Someone thinks they're William Tell?
    I hooe this doesn't become a 'thing'. A couple of these and there could be a serious problem.


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