Fender Vintera II Leaked… inc Rosewood

Creed_Clicks · July 2023

rlw said:

Creed_Clicks said:

You can get a luthier built guitar, more or less, for a similar price to a Mexican strat!

More or less being the crucial part of the sentence.

Yes being the answer.

impmann · July 2023

I wish they wouldn't keep making Jazzmasters with those horrible metal pickguards - I blame Mascis for the BS surrounding metal guards, as he's drawled about them for years (despite using a Tele in the studio - and more gain on stage that you can shake a stick at meaning that he could use *any* guitar and get the same noise). They can make a difference to the tone, but not in a good way IMHO as a JM has a 'clank' on the 'front' of the attack envelope *anyway* and it doesn't need accentuating.

If they aren't fitting gold metal plates, they are fitting god-awful corned beef ones... stop it, Fender. Offer some decent options with white/parchment/aged white plastics - as they look *so* much better IMHO. Funnily enough, based on the evidence from the Custom Shop right now, most high end customers agree...

(I'll get off my soapbox now)

Whitecat · July 2023

impmann said:

I wish they wouldn't keep making Jazzmasters with those horrible metal pickguards - I blame Mascis for the BS surrounding metal guards, as he's drawled about them for years. They can make a difference to the tone, but not in a good way IMHO as a JM has a 'clank' on the 'front' of the attack envelope *anyway* and it doesn't need accentuating.

If they aren't fitting gold metal plates, they are fitting god-awful corned beef ones... stop it, Fender. Offer some decent options with white/parchment/aged white plastics - as they look *so* much better IMHO. Funnily enough, based on the evidence from the Custom Shop right now, most high end customers agree...

(I'll get off my soapbox now)

Suspect it's because there's no USA analogue with a 50s vibe... doing a 60s variant might cannibalise too many sales from the AVIIs and even APIIs to a lesser extent, so they reckoned that by doing the metal-guarded 50s flavour it would offer something different enough that a lot of people will still buy them.

steer · July 2023

Just how many times can Fender reissue the exact same guitar? It's a strat or a tele etc.. If you have not found a good one by now that suits your requirements, then you either haven't been looking hard enough or you are an overly fussy princess.

Offset · July 2023

UnclePsychosis said:

If the leaked prices of these are correct then... wow. €1400 for a Mexican Fender? Ouch.

Madness. There's absolutely no way I would ever pay anything even approaching this for a MIM Fender. Be interesting to see how well they sell - and how long it'll be before the big retailers are banging them out with a fat discount.

Schnozz · July 2023

Strangefan said:

So. That's 1k for a mex fender, utter madness.

You won't get a case either.

RaymondLin · July 2023

Schnozz said:

Strangefan said:

So. That's 1k for a mex fender, utter madness.

You won't get a case either.

Ooooft, those Fender molded case is now £150! I got one during the pandemic for £130. That's 10% rise as well.

Musicman20 · July 2023

Less than 3 years ago I bought a MIM Roadworn Jazzmaster in shell pink with a matching headstock. Under £1000, just...

Soft case, but AV pickups which are absolutely stunning.

Prices are just getting daft.

stonevibe · July 2023

Fender is advertising 20% off Vintera Series on their site currently. Getting ready to purge stock, so should be some big sales soon.

HAL9000 · August 2023

Teyeplayer said:

RaymondLin said:

What makes this different to the previous one, it looks like to be the same spec?

Moved away from the dry pau ferro boards.

So - presumably the maple board ones haven’t changed except for the colours.

Sporky · August 2023

Does anyone know what "vintera" means?

I thought it'd be a new offset shape.

Svartmetall · August 2023

In what parallel universe is €1,200 for a Mexican Strat 'mid priced' ...?

GoldenEraGuitars · August 2023

rlw said:

Creed_Clicks said:

You can get a luthier built guitar, more or less, for a similar price to a Mexican strat!

More or less being the crucial part of the sentence.

Ha! Yeah, I was gonna say do let me know your luthier lol

chrisj1602 · August 2023

Svartmetall said:

In what parallel universe is €1,200 for a Mexican Strat 'mid priced' ...?

It’s all relative. New Squier Classic Vibes are around £400, American Vintage II are around £2k, CS £4k, so Vintera II looking around £900-£1k isn’t that odd.

Offset · August 2023

GoldenEraGuitars said:

rlw said:

Creed_Clicks said:

You can get a luthier built guitar, more or less, for a similar price to a Mexican strat!

More or less being the crucial part of the sentence.

Ha! Yeah, I was gonna say do let me know your luthier lol

Ian Elson.

GoldenEraGuitars · August 2023

Offset said:

GoldenEraGuitars said:

rlw said:

Creed_Clicks said:

You can get a luthier built guitar, more or less, for a similar price to a Mexican strat!

More or less being the crucial part of the sentence.

Ha! Yeah, I was gonna say do let me know your luthier lol

Ian Elson.

The crucial part of that sentence was “luthier”

RobG3294 · August 2023

Sporky said:

Does anyone know what "vintera" means?

I thought it'd be a new offset shape.

Amalgamation of "Vintage" and "era". Totally pointless name change of the old classic series.

Sporky · August 2023

Ah, thank you.

I'd rather a new offset shape.

stickyfiddle · August 2023

I am my luthier and even the parts alone cost more than these for good grade stuff. That said you can build a zero-compromise instrument for under 2k and that's with basically everything custom-specced.

But these aren't for people like me who know what they want (and what works...), and where to get the parts and how to put it together really properly to create a great instrument. These are for folks who want a e.g. red Tele that looks a bit like an old one without paying AV or CS money - and have zero hassle.

My biggest issue is honestly just the name Vintera II is just a bizarre bit of naming that's trying to sound retro-futuristic but doesn't land for me at all.

As for the 50's JM question, they don't even have maple fretboards which is very odd. A full-maple JM with a single-ply white guard could actually be quite a neat little instrument.

GoFish · August 2023

Sporky said:

Ah, thank you.

I'd rather a new offset shape.

That'll be the Futurama

Rita Ora

Meteora.

WYNIR0 · August 2023

I like my Vintera Jazzmaster very much but then I paid £600 for it second hand only a month or 2 back. £1000 plus is madness. Fenders laurels are flattened.

chrisj1602 · August 2023

WYNIR0 said:

I like my Vintera Jazzmaster very much but then I paid £600 for it second hand only a month or 2 back. £1400 is madness. Fenders laurels are flattened.

Where did £1400 come from? I’ve just searched and seen American Vintage II Jazzmasters for £1,699.

WYNIR0 · August 2023

chrisj1602 said:

WYNIR0 said:

I like my Vintera Jazzmaster very much but then I paid £600 for it second hand only a month or 2 back. £1400 is madness. Fenders laurels are flattened.

Where did £1400 come from? I’ve just searched and seen American Vintage II Jazzmasters for £1,699.

Sorry, thought I'd read that earlier in the thread, but it was £1,200. I know when I was looking Guitar Guitar were doing the Vintera Tele Deluxes for £1,100 or thereabouts. I'll edit my post

floeighty2 · August 2023

Offset said:

GoldenEraGuitars said:

rlw said:

Creed_Clicks said:

You can get a luthier built guitar, more or less, for a similar price to a Mexican strat!

More or less being the crucial part of the sentence.

Ha! Yeah, I was gonna say do let me know your luthier lol

Ian Elson.

I’ve just been on Ancoats Guitars site and I could buy their NQ ‘Stage’ model, choose between humbuckers and P90s or a combination of, body colour and pickguard and then spec a completely handmade neck to go with the handmade body and it will cost £1200. Just to say it’s possible!

hotpickups · September 2023

Makes my Vintera in the classifieds sound even more of a bargain imo

chrisj1602 · September 2023

hotpickups said:

Makes my Vintera in the classifieds sound even more of a bargain imo

Yeah. I got my Classic Series Tele a few months ago for the price of a new Squier.

Pabcrane · September 2023

hotpickups said:

Makes my Vintera in the classifieds sound even more of a bargain imo

That is good to hear (from my perspective at least!)

I would like a Jag at some point, and I don't really mind what dark wood is used in the fretboard. However it seems that there might be a premium put on the rosewood fretboards which may spill over to the second hand market.

I have a Squier Bass VI (which I think is laurel or pau ferro) and after a bit of treatment it both looks and feels lovely. It was a little dry when I got it but it is fine now

The first time I ever came across Pau ferro I think was a Suhr guitar of someone who I shared a bill with - that guitar played really well so I haven't had a problem with these other woods

UnclePsychosis · September 2023

These appear to be, erm, appearing online now.

There's a few on Reverb from various international sellers. Cheaper than I was expecting, some seem to be sub £1000.

chrisj1602 · September 2023

I noticed there’s a Nocaster, that’s a nice addition.

RobG3294 · September 2023

UnclePsychosis said:

These appear to be, erm, appearing online now.

There's a few on Reverb from various international sellers. Cheaper than I was expecting, some seem to be sub £1000.

Probably because anything international on reverb is quoted up to checkout as an Ex. VAT price now. So whack another 20% on probably taking you close to the rumoured £1199 p*ss take price! Buy used!

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