The Fretboard Running Thread 2023

RedRabbit · March 2023

Good luck for Sunday @Bidley I'm sure you'll smash it.

Due to a combination of illness and laziness, I've not run for a couple of weeks. Fully intend to get back to it next week though. If I don't I've just wasted a good chunk of cash on new shoes and replacing my dying Garmin.

BRISTOL86 · March 2023

Have largely stopped running in favour of cycling as running has been too interfering with my primary goal this year of packing on muscle. But I do miss it!

2021 was my most active year, just slightly ahead of what I did last year.

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stevebrum · March 2023

BRISTOL86 said:

Have largely stopped running in favour of cycling as running has been too interfering with my primary goal this year of packing on muscle. But I do miss it!

2021 was my most active year, just slightly ahead of what I did last year.

That’s a shame if you enjoy it.

Can’t you find a balance somewhere?

There must be a sweet spot where a bit of the right type of running will complement building leg muscle, that’d probably be shorter and faster runs.

Your 10k and 5k times are impressive so you’ve got speed.

BRISTOL86 · March 2023

stevebrum said:

BRISTOL86 said:

Have largely stopped running in favour of cycling as running has been too interfering with my primary goal this year of packing on muscle. But I do miss it!

2021 was my most active year, just slightly ahead of what I did last year.

That’s a shame if you enjoy it.

Can’t you find a balance somewhere?

There must be a sweet spot where a bit of the right type of running will complement building leg muscle, that’d probably be shorter and faster runs.

Your 10k and 5k times are impressive so you’ve got speed.

Yes it’s not that I have to cut it out altogether. But the intensity and frequency that I’ve been doing just isn’t compatible with the other goals, they’re so contradictory.

I have hormonal issues that means I’m already hugely disadvantaged in terms of my ability to add muscle mass, so need to prioritise what the main goal is and let this take a backseat for a while!

I’m really enjoying my cycling and find that much easier to moderate intensity and treat it more as a leisure activity than when I run, and it’s much more complimentary than running to the mass building goals!

Bidley · March 2023

Thanks for the advice chaps. My partner is sick as a dog in bed, so I've quarantined her in the bedroom! I feel fine so far.

Bod · March 2023

I'm still taking it easy due to back issues, plus family commitments have meant it's not been easy to get out. I'm hoping to get out tomorrow morning though.

FastEddie · March 2023

Running was the one training session as a soldier I hated the most. Give me tabbing and even swimming.
This was due to a spinal injury.
25 years later, many screws and a new disc I have rediscovered the peace of solitude of running.

Only in the forest or trails, and only with the dog and mainly with Radiohead, Green Day, Iron Maiden in my ears.

I've not timed myself since my head injury but before that I managed 1 1/2 miles in 10mins 30. That is the distance we used in the Army as a benchmark. My fastest was in 1990 with 8 mins 15.

A new pair of Hoka shoes are inbound as I have, astoundingly, worn out a pair of trail runners!

There is a pleasure in the pain and a real sense of 'f#ck you world, f#ck you injury' when I finish.

Do I like running? No. I LOVE the huge release of anger when I finish.
In short, whilst I am still re-learning the guitar, post head-injury, I get my therapy from running and tabbing.

Benm39 · April 2023

14 miles today in some horribly muddy trails, skating like a duck but at least it stopped raining after about 4 miles.

Good luck tomorrow @Bidley !

djspecialist · April 2023

Has anyone here done the Kielder marathon? I'm pondering an entry for this October.

Benm39 · April 2023

djspecialist said:

Has anyone here done the Kielder marathon? I'm pondering an entry for this October.

No, but it looks tempting when I've seen YouTube footage on it. Pity it's the opposite end of the country.

Bidley · April 2023

Well, I woke up yesterday morning feeling pretty rubbish. No energy, hardly any sleep, didn't even feel like doing 5km let alone a marathon. I ate my porridge and got geared up wth the hope I'd get my medal and go back to the hotel room and eat my bodyweight in fried chicken to console myself.

Arrived at the start area busting for a piss. It was absolutely freezing. Stood in the queue for the bogs for nearly 30 minutes (with it barely moving) only to be told that bag drop was closing in 5 minutes. So I rush over, reluctantly take my top off, drop my bag then go to the starting pen as my wave had been called out. Thankfully the bogs there were clear so I have the longest piss ever.

After standing on the field for about 20 minutes, violently shivering, we can finally go to the starting corral and get started. Of course my wave was about 30 minutes slower than my expected time so for the first 2km I'm doing 12-13 minute miles and I started getting really twitchy.

So I finally got free and started to find a bit of a rythmn. The support was class so I actually started enjoying myself (getting my name on my shirt is probably the best running tip ever!). I'd made up all the time I'd lost in the painful first mile or so and was feeling pretty decent.

We got past the 20 mile mark and I was still feeling ok. Still decent support (although the amount of out-and-backs and little loops were starting to grate) so not a massive chore. I do runners' maths and realise sub-4 is still on the cards, so it's time to dig in.

We get to around, I don't know, the 23 mile mark and everyone around me is starting to flag, We start going into this industrial estate with no support or noise, just the sound of feet hitting the ground and people grunting and wheezing. Oh, and it's an out and back too so you know when you get to the end you're going to have to get back again. By far the biggest mental test of my life. At this point I had to disassociate completely just to get through it.

Finally get through that, and it's the last mile down Hove Lawns, where there's an amazing amount of people and noise, but by this point I had nothing left mentally so I was just holding on for dear life. The only thing I can remember is a guy in the crowd screaming at me "Well done Carl! I'm so proud of you!" and a massive lump in my throat as a result!

Get across the line and stop the watch... 03:58:35. Fuck. My. Arse. Raw. The old girl putting the gong around my neck was treated to a grown man blubbering at her. I didn't think I could do sub-4 throughout my training, and that morning I didn't even think I could run 5km.

So yeah, 10/10 would torture myself physically and emotionally again!

How did you get on @26.2 ?

Bod · April 2023

Well done @Bidley, that's amazing work. I cannot ever imagine running a marathon - 5k is enough for me right now, with 10k a big ambition. Massive respect!

HerbieTheRadDorklift · April 2023

Are the cheapo shoes from Decathlon any good short term? I don't care about durability as I'm just wanting to try running, I don't wanna spend £100 if I stop after 3 months.

Are these: https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/kiprun-kd500-men-s-dynamic-running-shoes-black-pink-limited-edition/_/R-p-301507?mc=8666151&c=BLACK

going to be heaps better than these for testing it out? : https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/kalenji-run-100-men-s-running-shoes-grey/_/R-p-9713?mc=8351755&c=GREY

Bidley · April 2023

Bod said:

Well done @Bidley, that's amazing work. I cannot ever imagine running a marathon - 5k is enough for me right now, with 10k a big ambition. Massive respect!

I was saying the exact same thing a couple of running threads ago

thanks mate!

HerbieTheRadDorklift said:

Are the cheapo shoes from Decathlon any good short term? I don't care about durability as I'm just wanting to try running, I don't wanna spend £100 if I stop after 3 months.

Are these: https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/kiprun-kd500-men-s-dynamic-running-shoes-black-pink-limited-edition/_/R-p-301507?mc=8666151&c=BLACK

going to be heaps better than these for testing it out? : https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/kalenji-run-100-men-s-running-shoes-grey/_/R-p-9713?mc=8351755&c=GREY

I've no idea, Decathlon stuff is usually decent. I would go for these for just a tenner more, they're a renowned great shoe. A bad pair of shoes can put you off running, I wouldn't bother with anything for £15 personally.

26.2 · April 2023

Bidley said:

Well, I woke up yesterday morning feeling pretty rubbish. No energy, hardly any sleep, didn't even feel like doing 5km let alone a marathon. I ate my porridge and got geared up wth the hope I'd get my medal and go back to the hotel room and eat my bodyweight in fried chicken to console myself.

Arrived at the start area busting for a piss. It was absolutely freezing. Stood in the queue for the bogs for nearly 30 minutes (with it barely moving) only to be told that bag drop was closing in 5 minutes. So I rush over, reluctantly take my top off, drop my bag then go to the starting pen as my wave had been called out. Thankfully the bogs there were clear so I have the longest piss ever.

After standing on the field for about 20 minutes, violently shivering, we can finally go to the starting corral and get started. Of course my wave was about 30 minutes slower than my expected time so for the first 2km I'm doing 12-13 minute miles and I started getting really twitchy.

So I finally got free and started to find a bit of a rythmn. The support was class so I actually started enjoying myself (getting my name on my shirt is probably the best running tip ever!). I'd made up all the time I'd lost in the painful first mile or so and was feeling pretty decent.

We got past the 20 mile mark and I was still feeling ok. Still decent support (although the amount of out-and-backs and little loops were starting to grate) so not a massive chore. I do runners' maths and realise sub-4 is still on the cards, so it's time to dig in.

We get to around, I don't know, the 23 mile mark and everyone around me is starting to flag, We start going into this industrial estate with no support or noise, just the sound of feet hitting the ground and people grunting and wheezing. Oh, and it's an out and back too so you know when you get to the end you're going to have to get back again. By far the biggest mental test of my life. At this point I had to disassociate completely just to get through it.

Finally get through that, and it's the last mile down Hove Lawns, where there's an amazing amount of people and noise, but by this point I had nothing left mentally so I was just holding on for dear life. The only thing I can remember is a guy in the crowd screaming at me "Well done Carl! I'm so proud of you!" and a massive lump in my throat as a result!

Get across the line and stop the watch... 03:58:35. Fuck. My. Arse. Raw. The old girl putting the gong around my neck was treated to a grown man blubbering at her. I didn't think I could do sub-4 throughout my training, and that morning I didn't even think I could run 5km.

So yeah, 10/10 would torture myself physically and emotionally again!

How did you get on @26.2 ?

Fantastic work mate - so pleased for you!!! I knew you’d be under 4 based on your training times - excellent stuff.

I didn’t have a great run really - I tweaked my right hamstring in my last training run I think. I only really began to feel it late on Friday and it was nagging away on Saturday as well. I actually got off to a decent start and was on track until about 15 miles but it started getting tighter and I just had to slow right down to be able to get round. I actually managed to get in a decent finishing couple of miles, but I’d lost a load of time already. So 4’35” was my final time. I was hoping for 4.15-4.20 but y’know I’m happy enough.

Not disappointed though - just pleased to have got round! It was a great day - much better organisation than before and a better course. Had a few beers afterwards and just got home this afternoon- a brilliant weekend.

I’d forgotten how hilly Brighton really is - also pretty windy yesterday as well.

Anyway, once again well done @Bidley - terrific achievement!

Bidley · April 2023

Thanks @26.2 it still hasn't sunk in. Sorry to hear about the hammy, that's a shame but it's all about that medal eh! I did keep an eye out for you too.

The course was great, hills and all (and to a fenboy like me that was new territory!). I even got some wicked sunburn after having my knackers frozen off which pretty much sums up my entire experience.

What did you make of the soul-destroying industrial estate? They've got to sort that out for next year surely.

26.2 · April 2023

Bidley said:

Thanks @26.2 it still hasn't sunk in. Sorry to hear about the hammy, that's a shame but it's all about that medal eh! I did keep an eye out for you too.

The course was great, hills and all (and to a fenboy like me that was new territory!). I even got some wicked sunburn after having my knackers frozen off which pretty much sums up my entire experience.

What did you make of the soul-destroying industrial estate? They've got to sort that out for next year surely.

Yeah the freezing start and then sunburn is a bit of a feature of Brighton. This year was particularly grim at the start though.

The industrial estate - they HAVE sorted it out! That bit used to go on for ever, in fact pretty much up to the power station. But it came about 2 or 3 miles earlier because there was no loop up to Withdean at the start. The finish was way further east, past the pier and down to the marina. It was awful! One year (2019 iirc) there was a howling head-on gale down to the finish. I actually did ok that year, 4’12”, but I thought I was going to die on the finish straight.

And yeah - it’s all about that medal! I always do my absolute best. I think everyone does - there’s no hiding place from mile 23 that’s for sure.

stevebrum · April 2023

Bidley said:

Well, I woke up yesterday and ran a fucking sub 4 marathon!

Great stuff - well done indeed.

I knew you’d do it. The plan just works.

Congrats and of course to everyone else who ran. Sorry you picked up an injury @26.2 at least it don’t result in a DNF.

russpm · April 2023

Bidley said:

Well, I woke up yesterday morning feeling pretty rubbish. No energy, hardly any sleep, didn't even feel like doing 5km let alone a marathon. I ate my porridge and got geared up wth the hope I'd get my medal and go back to the hotel room and eat my bodyweight in fried chicken to console myself.

Arrived at the start area busting for a piss. It was absolutely freezing. Stood in the queue for the bogs for nearly 30 minutes (with it barely moving) only to be told that bag drop was closing in 5 minutes. So I rush over, reluctantly take my top off, drop my bag then go to the starting pen as my wave had been called out. Thankfully the bogs there were clear so I have the longest piss ever.

After standing on the field for about 20 minutes, violently shivering, we can finally go to the starting corral and get started. Of course my wave was about 30 minutes slower than my expected time so for the first 2km I'm doing 12-13 minute miles and I started getting really twitchy.

So I finally got free and started to find a bit of a rythmn. The support was class so I actually started enjoying myself (getting my name on my shirt is probably the best running tip ever!). I'd made up all the time I'd lost in the painful first mile or so and was feeling pretty decent.

We got past the 20 mile mark and I was still feeling ok. Still decent support (although the amount of out-and-backs and little loops were starting to grate) so not a massive chore. I do runners' maths and realise sub-4 is still on the cards, so it's time to dig in.

We get to around, I don't know, the 23 mile mark and everyone around me is starting to flag, We start going into this industrial estate with no support or noise, just the sound of feet hitting the ground and people grunting and wheezing. Oh, and it's an out and back too so you know when you get to the end you're going to have to get back again. By far the biggest mental test of my life. At this point I had to disassociate completely just to get through it.

Finally get through that, and it's the last mile down Hove Lawns, where there's an amazing amount of people and noise, but by this point I had nothing left mentally so I was just holding on for dear life. The only thing I can remember is a guy in the crowd screaming at me "Well done Carl! I'm so proud of you!" and a massive lump in my throat as a result!

Get across the line and stop the watch... 03:58:35. Fuck. My. Arse. Raw. The old girl putting the gong around my neck was treated to a grown man blubbering at her. I didn't think I could do sub-4 throughout my training, and that morning I didn't even think I could run 5km.

So yeah, 10/10 would torture myself physically and emotionally again!

How did you get on @26.2 ?

Well done @Bidley , fantastic effort. Enjoy the afterglow mate. Months of graft ending with a perfectly executed race.

russpm · April 2023

Well done @26.2 , amazing that you held it together with a hammy injury. Superb effort mate.

Benm39 · April 2023

Fantastic effort @Bidley and a great stoic run for you too @26.2 by sounds of it! Hope you both get to enjoy a bit of downtime before whatever's next!

26.2 · April 2023

russpm said:

Well done @26.2 , amazing that you held it together with a hammy injury. Superb effort mate.

Thanks Russ that really means a lot! Cheers!

Bod · April 2023

So, ran my tenth Parkrun yesterday and managed 28:38 - a new PB. Really pleased as I'd been aiming for sub-30. Will concentrate on consistency and stamina now.

I wandered out to observe the Leicester Abbey Park 10k race today. It was a lovely atmosphere and has given me another target - run a 10k!

Bod · April 2023

26.2 said:

Early on I always try to remember: ‘if it doesn’t feel like you’re going too slow, you’re going too fast’.

I like that - sage advice!

Bidley · April 2023

Yes @Bod ! Sounds like you're making great strides. Get that 10k in the bag.

My first run since the marathon today. I've been struck with a horrible lurgy that's put me on my arse for two weeks. The longest I've gone without running since I started over 2 years ago. Felt like utter shit but I feel so much better for getting out there again!

axisus · April 2023

Parkrun today my best 5k in years - 22.53. Not bad seeing as I am 60 in the next week.

stevebrum · April 2023

axisus said:

Parkrun today my best 5k in years - 22.53. Not bad seeing as I am 60 in the next week.

Brilliant - congrats. Not sure I’ll be hitting those numbers at 60 but I’d like to!

djspecialist · May 2023

April total: 89km / 8 runs

Highlight: a run around the Colosseum during a trip to Rome

Lowlight: two weeks off running due to plantar fasciitis

26.2 · May 2023

April total 107K. 11 runs, longest run 42.5K.

Highlight: Brighton Marathon
Lowlight: 2 weeks off with a sore hamstring.

roundthebend · May 2023

I've had a set back. I've been trying to find motivation to get a habit formed. But a recent run revealed a niggling pain in my right knee so I only did a mile. Left it a week and thought it was fine, so went to the gym and did a few weights. Next day it was swollen and stiff. Went to the doctor and the diagnosis is Bursitis which isn't too bad but advised not to run for 8-12 weeks.

I've got a programme of strengthening exercises to follow as that's what caused it, he reckons - one cap has slipped down and is chaffing on the tissue underneath.

He's also said I can swim and do gentle cycling.

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