Postponed: Western Jam 2020 - Factory Studios, Bristol

nickp · March 2020

fine by me

stratman3142 · March 2020

Brocco said:

question for the group - to minimise admin and to potentially raise a few quid for tFB coffers, would you be happy to pay in full now...

OK with me. Even if I don't ultimately make it I'm happy to contribute.

Legionreturns · March 2020

7th June is *currently* free for me, but is also smack bang in the middle of the school rewards trip and residential season, and I tend to get a lot of bookings come in.

I'm happy to be a potential/ reserve.

adampeter · March 2020

Brocco said:

cheers @nickp ;

question for the group - to minimise admin and to potentially raise a few quid for tFB coffers, would you be happy to pay in full now (depending on final confirmed numbers from this initial group, subs are likely to be circa £12-15 each to cover our costs with Factory) and have any additional attendees pay the same amount in subs with any excess going to tFB?

Im happy to pay upfront

spark240 · March 2020

Yep pay forward is ok for me

MagicPigDetective · March 2020

Happy to pay upfront

roberty · March 2020

Me too ££

clarkefan · March 2020

Me three.

nickp · March 2020

I shall ring or go down there today and confirm price n booking etc and then get back with my paypal account n stuff

roberty · March 2020

nickp said:

I shall ring or go down there today and confirm price n booking etc and then get back with my paypal account n stuff

Appreciate that mate thanks for putting in the effort

nickp · March 2020

Rehearsal Room booked for 7 June 11am - 6 pm
https://www.factorystudios.co.uk/studios

We have the live room and rehearsal room/studio 4

access from 10 am on the day.

payment details to follow in a mo

mrkb · March 2020

nickp said:

Rehearsal Room booked for 7 June 11am - 6 pm
https://www.factorystudios.co.uk/studios

We have the live room and rehearsal room/studio 4

access from 10 am on the day.

payment details to follow in a mo

Well done.

Didn't @brocco or @fangango set up a separate Paypal account for handling Bristol jam funds last time? Is that still available? Would help keep financial ins and outs manageable.

Brocco · March 2020

@mrkb - hi Mark. @fandango to his immense credit was out of pocket for quite some time when he booked the venue last year, something we want to avoid this time around. All payments last year went through through fandango's own paypal account.

roberty · March 2020

Let me know how much to send and where @nickp cheers

fandango · March 2020

Brocco said:

@mrkb - hi Mark. @fandango to his immense credit was out of pocket for quite some time when he booked the venue last year, something we want to avoid this time around. All payments last year went through through fandango's own paypal account.

And I have since closed the PayPal account and associated email address.

Bear in mind I booked this up 8 months ahead of time. And despite this and the regular promotion of the event, Attendance was less than we could have accommodated, and I only just covered my costs.

nickp · March 2020

Payment time please. £14 to nick@paulleys.co.uk

total cost is £140 so we are hoping for 10+ which will cover us for any incidental costs and/or contribution to the forum running costs.

i will pay studio as soon as I get enough in.

thank you

nick

stratman3142 · March 2020

Payment sent.

Funkfingers · March 2020

nickp said:

we are hoping for 10+ which will cover us for any incidental costs and/or contribution to the forum running costs.

Last year, there were three participant lists. Definite/paid-up subscribers, a "reserves" list and a bunch of backroom/helpful types who would offer various forms of assistance to nervous or less experienced attendees. (Song rundowns, on-the-fly instrument maintenance, overseeing the recording kit whilst the main guy nips out for a cig break.)

The most fundamental thing will be to have at least two drummers of a good standard.

Next, there needs to be an attention-shunning bloke who can plonk away in the low register.

A pukka, sight-reading keyboardist would be handy. If nothing else, it would extend the song list possibilities.

Brocco · March 2020

have updated the initial post to confirm the date, venue, and a list of those who have expressed interest in playing and a note of who has paid

mrkb · March 2020

Have sent funds

Brocco · March 2020

Now we are up and running we need a volunteer (ideally someone who has attended at least one of these regional jam events before) to lead the discussion on track suggestions, manage allocation of associated band parts, etc, and another volunteer who can organise the backline, etc, for the house band (someone local to the venue would be ideal for this role).
Any takers?

nickp · March 2020

@Funkfingers also mentioned recording at the previous jam ???

I know a drummer if we need a second/reserve drummer.
what about vocals?

thanks @Brocco for moving things along

and thanks to those who have paid - I'll give it a day or two, confirm receipt of funds so far and do some nagging for payment from anyone else who I can spot lurking in the undergrowth

spark240 · March 2020

Can put the excel spread sheet back up on Google drive ?
Maybe try and avoid the usually Teenage kicks etc until we run out of songs....I’ll kick off with - cause they are easy..

Boys are back in town - Lizzy
Your all I have - Snow patrol
Is she really going out with him - Joe Jackson
Use somebody - Kings OL.

Just some ideas...

roberty · March 2020

nickp said:

Payment time please. £14 to nick@paulleys.co.uk

total cost is £140 so we are hoping for 10+ which will cover us for any incidental costs and/or contribution to the forum running costs.

i will pay studio as soon as I get enough in.

thank you

nick

Sent mate

The drummer will probs want some cash for their time. It's a pretty gruelling day on the drums. Depending on numbers maybe we can do another whip around

Happy to keep track of backline

Funkfingers · March 2020

nickp said:

@Funkfingers also mentioned recording at the previous jam ???

Affirmative.

Recording gear supplied and operated by extremely kind forum members and, then, complete/finished mixes uploaded on Soundcloud. (The 2019 tracks may have already been withdrawn to create space for 2020 ones.) There were also video recordings of some performances.

It should go without saying that Factory Studios can record event performances ... for an additional charge.

Hopefully, this goes to demonstrate that these events are a community affair. All subscribers have to contribute time, money and effort to conjure the event into existence out of thin air.

Legionreturns · March 2020

Re recordings; if I can make it, which it looks like I can, I'm happy to bring everything for recording and handle the on the day task of setting up and manning the desk / laptop.

I think it likely I'll withdraw from playing as I'm unlikely to have the time to learn anything, with an impending house move and studio build.

mrkb · March 2020

nickp said:

@Funkfingers also mentioned recording at the previous jam ???

I know a drummer if we need a second/reserve drummer.
what about vocals?

thanks @Brocco for moving things along

and thanks to those who have paid - I'll give it a day or two, confirm receipt of funds so far and do some nagging for payment from anyone else who I can spot lurking in the undergrowth

There’s usually enough of us who are happy to do vocals as long as the songs selected are in a sensible pitch.

mrkb · March 2020

Legionreturns said:

Re recordings; if I can make it, which it looks like I can, I'm happy to bring everything for recording and handle the on the day task of setting up and manning the desk / laptop.

I think it likely I'll withdraw from playing as I'm unlikely to have the time to learn anything, with an impending house move and studio build.

Surely we can do a quick version of Hard to Handle? I’m happy to man the recording board when needed.

Funkfingers · March 2020

spark240 said:

Can put the excel spread sheet back up on Google drive?

Probably better to wait until enough subscriptions have been paid for the event to definitely break even.

spark240 said:
try and avoid the usual Teenage Kicks etc until we run out of [other] songs.

I second this.

On the one hand, the song list has to cater for all ability levels. On the other hand, it would be wasteful to clone the 2019 song list.

Much as I love TK, resorting to playing it at an event like this is an admission of defeat. IMO, it is one step short of descending to the sort of bad, white person, twelve bar blues that indicates that a jam session has run out of ideas.

The Song List usually expands into several Discussions all of its own. One to gather suggestions, a second to vote for which songs get priority and a third to organise who plays/sings on which song(s). I volunteered to do this last year but had to bow out because my computer could not host Google Drive.

Legionreturns · March 2020

mrkb said:

Legionreturns said:

Re recordings; if I can make it, which it looks like I can, I'm happy to bring everything for recording and handle the on the day task of setting up and manning the desk / laptop.

I think it likely I'll withdraw from playing as I'm unlikely to have the time to learn anything, with an impending house move and studio build.

Surely we can do a quick version of Hard to Handle? I’m happy to man the recording board when needed.

My plan is to just bring recording kit.

Desk
Laptop
Headphones
2 x SM57s
2 x SM58s
Full set of drum mics
All associated mic stands
Big bag'o'cables (tm)

By not bringing amps, guitars, basses etc I'll have a much lighter car and reduce the cost of attending, as well as focussing me on the task at hand.

I'll be able to setup everything and then sit back and contribute to the day from my little corner.

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