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RandallFlagg · August 2019

iseverynamegone said:

You could warner had knicked that in real time watching on tv!

Yes I heard it from the stump mic on TV, but he went shortly after so no real harm done.

RandallFlagg · August 2019

Aus only 228 runs behind with 1 down. England's bowling not looking as dangerous as the Aussie attack. Game could be decided by the way the first session goes tomorrow. In spite of my earlier optimism, it's clear that Aus have the better bowling and better batting so it's going to take some special sessions for England to get this series.

crunchman · August 2019

The only thing England have over the Aussies is a 5 man bowling attack. If the top order could last long enough to wear the Aussies down, that would be an advantage. With the likes of Roy at the top of the order though, it isn't likely to happen.

RandallFlagg · August 2019

If Aus bat well through this session, even with rain this afternoon, bat all day tomorrow and get 400+ they will come out very confident they can bowl England out on day 5 for 150 or less

RandallFlagg · August 2019

2 wickets since I typed my pessimistic diatribe above! I should be pessimistic more often.

Dopesick · August 2019

Two wickets in two overs! Trust us to gain a bit of momentum just when the rain looks to interrupt things.

guitars4you · August 2019

RandallFlagg said:

2 wickets since I typed my pessimistic diatribe above! I should be pessimistic more often.

I'm on the radio today, so no Sky - But it sounds like an initial poor opening spell by our bowlers - Archer looks a big prospect, but he needs to tighten up his line/length, but hopefully that will come - Early days for him, but already you have a feeling we are putting all our hopes on him

RandallFlagg · August 2019

71-4, 3 wickets a in this session has definitely tipped the play in England's favour but the low total England posted keeps the pressure on the English bowlers, if they were bowling against 400 Aus would be sweating

munckee · August 2019

For the love of god get Smith out, even if it's due to injury (not too serious, just something that stops him batting for 6 weeks).

scrumhalf · August 2019

We've dried up the runs but aren't bowling enough wicket-taking balls. Aussies seem to be happy not scoring, compare that to our batsmen who seem to want to hit the cover off the ball after a few dots.

RandallFlagg · August 2019

scrumhalf said:

We've dried up the runs but aren't bowling enough wicket-taking balls. Aussies seem to be happy not scoring, compare that to our batsmen who seem to want to hit the cover off the ball after a few dots.

Proper Test batting, block and leave in the tricky periods, keep patient and then put the bad balls away when the conditions change. The runs will accumulate.

scrumhalf · August 2019

Rain, and probably for at least the next couple of hours.

Bah!

Heartfeltdawn · August 2019

From one of the Crizbuzz journalists:

"This is why England shouldn’t be trusted with proper quicks Australia’s pace collective bowl to standard fields knowing speed causes misjudgements in traditional areas (outside off, even standard set-ups). England have a leg slip short leg, not-so-short leg, catching mid on..."

A pitch like this, a climate like this, you don't have to reinvent the wheel. Look at how Hazlewood bowled first up.

Heartfeltdawn · August 2019

guitars4you said:

RandallFlagg said:

2 wickets since I typed my pessimistic diatribe above! I should be pessimistic more often.

I'm on the radio today, so no Sky - But it sounds like an initial poor opening spell by our bowlers - Archer looks a big prospect, but he needs to tighten up his line/length, but hopefully that will come - Early days for him, but already you have a feeling we are putting all our hopes on him

Horses of courses - the Cricinfo article on why Pattinson got dropped out for Lords and Hazlewood came back in shows the level of thought Langer and his team are putting into all of this.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/27394783/cherry-ripe-josh-hazlewood-brings-peak-precision

earwighoney · August 2019

Heartfeltdawn said:

From one of the Crizbuzz journalists:

"This is why England shouldn’t be trusted with proper quicks Australia’s pace collective bowl to standard fields knowing speed causes misjudgements in traditional areas (outside off, even standard set-ups). England have a leg slip short leg, not-so-short leg, catching mid on..."

A pitch like this, a climate like this, you don't have to reinvent the wheel. Look at how Hazlewood bowled first up.

Joe Root seems to have learnt from the Alistair Cook school of captaincy...

It's quite incredible how easy a ride the both of them seem to be given by commentators whilst the test matches are taking place.

Nitefly · August 2019

Comment from the BBC live text page: "Why don't we play cricket in the summer?"

RandallFlagg · August 2019

All fears, doubts and frustrations aside, England did well to get 3 wickets this morning. The bowlers will be fresh tomorrow after those relatively light duties. Game is still winnable. If England can get another 3 down fairly quickly then Jofra could bounce out the tail and it is possible Steve Smith could be choked for partners and with some good fortune England could go back out to bat with a lead.

Alternatively...

Jalapeno · August 2019

earwighoney said:

Heartfeltdawn said:

From one of the Crizbuzz journalists:

"This is why England shouldn’t be trusted with proper quicks Australia’s pace collective bowl to standard fields knowing speed causes misjudgements in traditional areas (outside off, even standard set-ups). England have a leg slip short leg, not-so-short leg, catching mid on..."

A pitch like this, a climate like this, you don't have to reinvent the wheel. Look at how Hazlewood bowled first up.

Joe Root seems to have learnt from the Alistair Cook school of captaincy...

It's quite incredible how easy a ride the both of them seem to be given by commentators whilst the test matches are taking place.

Sky don't hold back.

scrumhalf · August 2019

Since Duncan Fletcher, who worked with his captains, we seem to have had a succession of captains who have worked for a coach.

guitars4you · August 2019

Just seen a load of Stats on Sky regarding S Smith

Deliveries on target and his strike rate is over 120 - 97% of these are on the leg side - That is some statement

Deliveries not on target, all down the off side and his strike rate is around 30 - with only 3% of runs on the off side

So line, length outside the offside is required and starve him - Obviously you can sneak in the 'surprise' delivery - And make Smith step out of his comfort zone

Barely seen a yorker to him - barely seen a slow ball to him - So no variation, other than a few bad balls

Maybe it is not as easy as above, but surely it beats feeding him his stable diet

crunchman · August 2019

Bit worried they are going to over bowl Archer and run him into the ground.

RandallFlagg · August 2019

I've not seen such aggressive bowling from and England player as this from Jofra Archer, 95-96mph, a battered and bruised Steve Smith taken off injured after being hit hard twice.

It's dirty, raw and thrilling, no-one wants to see a repeat of the horrific fatality of Phillip Hughes but to see an England bowler serving up real pace bouncers to the Aussies instead of the other way around is refreshing.

England are bowling well and keeping Aus under control

RandallFlagg · August 2019

crunchman said:

Bit worried they are going to over bowl Archer and run him into the ground.

Agreed, but he still seems fresh after this many overs. Get the new ball and give Broad & Woakes the next 10 overs.

earwighoney · August 2019

RandallFlagg said:

I've not seen such aggressive bowling from and England player as this from Jofra Archer, 95-96mph, a battered and bruised Steve Smith taken off injured after being hit hard twice.

It's dirty, raw and thrilling, no-one wants to see a repeat of the horrific fatality of Phillip Hughes but to see an England bowler serving up real pace bouncers to the Aussies instead of the other way around is refreshing.

IMO after reading Langer's comments regarding Archer earlier this week they gave the impression they weren't taking his abilities seriously and there's a chance they weren't respecting Archer at the crease, which can be a very dangerous thing to do.

scrumhalf · August 2019

Blimey, Smith's coming back out.

Bring Jofra back on?

RandallFlagg · August 2019

scrumhalf said:

Blimey, Smith's coming back out.

Bring Jofra back on?

Yep, keep the foot on the throat until it's dead. That would be the Aussie way. Does Root have that ruthless streak?

RandallFlagg · August 2019

earwighoney said:

RandallFlagg said:

I've not seen such aggressive bowling from and England player as this from Jofra Archer, 95-96mph, a battered and bruised Steve Smith taken off injured after being hit hard twice.

It's dirty, raw and thrilling, no-one wants to see a repeat of the horrific fatality of Phillip Hughes but to see an England bowler serving up real pace bouncers to the Aussies instead of the other way around is refreshing.

IMO after reading Langer's comments regarding Archer earlier this week they gave the impression they weren't taking his abilities seriously and there's a chance they weren't respecting Archer at the crease, which can be a very dangerous thing to do.

the pre-Ashes hype over Archer has been justified. He brings a new dimension and has had the Aussies bent sideways. He has potential for game changing spells, and England will need them to get this series.

This late on day 4 with 2 innings left I can't see a result here but it's been good cricket.

scrumhalf · August 2019

First innings lead of eight. Four sessions, two innings.

Could be very tight.

Jason Roy - don't repeat your first innings effort.

RandallFlagg · August 2019

Unless Aus now blow England out in a session or 2!

earwighoney · August 2019

Roy out for 2. He's shaping to be the very worst of the all the terrible openers England have gone through recently.

Now Root's out first ball. Awful, awful, awful.

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