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SouthpawMark · July 2019

Jinx worked again. You’re welcome.

well done England!! Someone better give Ian Smith the number for The Samaritans.

Simon_M · July 2019

Absolute scenes!!! Couldn’t have been closer. Superb.

RandallFlagg · July 2019

I am crying

Bridgehouse · July 2019

I had to go for a poop straight after that...

jhumber · July 2019

What an unbelievable ending, easily one of the most thrilling sports moments I’ve ever seen. Superb game.

RandallFlagg · July 2019

Unbelievable, like a fairytale.

Pinch yourself. We just witnessed the greatest end to a Cricket World Cup ever that will probably never be repeated. Get the Blu Ray or DVD and tell your grandkids.

we were there

Schnozz · July 2019

The butterflies aren't going away

menamestom · July 2019

Unbelievable drama! A cricket world cup, British Gp and 3 tip runs. Not a bad day

Harsh on NZ who scored the same as England in the 50 and also super over. But I’m not complaining!

RandallFlagg · July 2019

I am hoarse and teary, when Joss Butler stumped them I ran out the house barefoot screaming yeaaahh and met my neighbour who also ran out and we man hugged in tears!

SouthpawMark · July 2019

What a great day of sport. The only fly in the ointment was bloody Djokovic winning Wimbledon.

scrumhalf · July 2019

Now for the Ashes.

Bring on the sandpaper boys!!!

guitars4you · July 2019

Wow - Wish I knew some better words

NZ total credit to the game, themselves and their country - But that was excellent

Sat on the sofa at 10am - 2 trips to the loo - 2 to the kettle - Never moved - 10 hours of excellence

Surely they have just won team of the year at SPOTY (for what it is worth) - Only the Rugby Team winning the WC could take it of them

Well done to England

axisus · July 2019

Amazing result! I couldn't watch. Sport gets too much for me.

Deadman · July 2019

I feel honoured to have witnessed that. Bloomin' brilliant stuff.

Philly_Q · July 2019

axisus said:

Amazing result! I couldn't watch. Sport gets too much for me.

I had it on the radio, tried the TV but it was too weird, I'm only used to cricket on the radio.

Even so, I had to switch off halfway through the England innings, then came back a couple of overs before the end.

Couldn't believe how it ended. Total insanity.

earwighoney · July 2019

The craziest game of sport I have ever spectated.

Truly incredible.

vasselmeyer · July 2019

I reckon that was the greatest one day match ever.

guitars4you · July 2019

Deadman said:

I feel honoured to have witnessed that. Bloomin' brilliant stuff.

agree

ourmaninthenorth · July 2019

That was my first ever hour of watching cricket ( the last hour of the match )

Bloody magic, absolutely fantastic spectacle.

Is it always like this?

Fuengi · July 2019

Incredible game, watched it all live on TV and the tension was unbearable at times.

Having seen the overthrows clip again I think the umpires made a mistake in awarding six runs to England, and cost New Zealand the game.

Law 19, 5 states that the run in progress should be allowed provided the batsman have crossed before the ball is released by the fieldsman. They definitely had not crossed before the ball was released, so only the first run should have been awarded, plus the four overthrows.

RandallFlagg · July 2019

Fuengi said:

Incredible game, watched it all live on TV and the tension was unbearable at times.

Having seen the overthrows clip again I think the umpires made a mistake in awarding six runs to England, and cost New Zealand the game.

Law 19, 5 states that the run in progress should be allowed provided the batsman have crossed before the ball is released by the fieldsman. They definitely had not crossed before the ball was released, so only the first run should have been awarded, plus the four overthrows.

Taxi for @Fuengi ;

get him out of here...

guitars4you · July 2019

ourmaninthenorth said:

That was my first ever hour of watching cricket ( the last hour of the match )

Bloody magic, absolutely fantastic spectacle.

Is it always like this?

No - we often loose

I suppose that ending is equivalent to a penalty shoot out - I can recall it once on a county match - Not in an international

I watched it all - And i suppose you need to buy into the build up that makes the last one hour so good - It could have gone either way

Total credit to both teams - What with the extra 4 over throws when it hit Stokes's bat - No dissent etc

Won't mean anything to them now, but NZ can walk away with total credit

If we had beaten Aus or India in this way then more 'gloating' from us I dare say - But you can't gloat after that performance from NZ - That is what made it so good in many ways

Both teams will share a few beers now and build some good friendship of the match/moment for many years

Hope the good lady is doing okay !!!!

Fuengi · July 2019

RandallFlagg said:

Fuengi said:

Incredible game, watched it all live on TV and the tension was unbearable at times.

Having seen the overthrows clip again I think the umpires made a mistake in awarding six runs to England, and cost New Zealand the game.

Law 19, 5 states that the run in progress should be allowed provided the batsman have crossed before the ball is released by the fieldsman. They definitely had not crossed before the ball was released, so only the first run should have been awarded, plus the four overthrows.

Taxi for @Fuengi ;

get him out of here...

Obviously delighted England won, but the umpires had a big call there and 3rd umpire to call on but still got it wrong.

Rocker · July 2019

Delighted that England won, what a great match, and chuffed that the England captain is an Irishman from Rush in Co. Dublin.

NorthernGooner · July 2019

Fuengi said:

RandallFlagg said:

Fuengi said:

Incredible game, watched it all live on TV and the tension was unbearable at times.

Having seen the overthrows clip again I think the umpires made a mistake in awarding six runs to England, and cost New Zealand the game.

Law 19, 5 states that the run in progress should be allowed provided the batsman have crossed before the ball is released by the fieldsman. They definitely had not crossed before the ball was released, so only the first run should have been awarded, plus the four overthrows.

Taxi for @Fuengi ;

get him out of here...

Obviously delighted England won, but the umpires had a big call there and 3rd umpire to call on but still got it wrong.

Yer cab's outside Son...............

Fuengi · July 2019

NorthernGooner said:

Fuengi said:

RandallFlagg said:

Fuengi said:

Incredible game, watched it all live on TV and the tension was unbearable at times.

Having seen the overthrows clip again I think the umpires made a mistake in awarding six runs to England, and cost New Zealand the game.

Law 19, 5 states that the run in progress should be allowed provided the batsman have crossed before the ball is released by the fieldsman. They definitely had not crossed before the ball was released, so only the first run should have been awarded, plus the four overthrows.

Taxi for @Fuengi ;

get him out of here...

Obviously delighted England won, but the umpires had a big call there and 3rd umpire to call on but still got it wrong.

Yer cab's outside Son...............

I'll get my coat.

SouthpawMark · July 2019

Kane Williamson might be one of the nicest chaps In sport. I almost feel sorry for him. Almost.

RandallFlagg · July 2019

Just woke up after a restless nights sleep. I can't quite believe what we witnessed last night.

RandallFlagg · July 2019

Fuengi said:

NorthernGooner said:

Fuengi said:

RandallFlagg said:

Fuengi said:

Incredible game, watched it all live on TV and the tension was unbearable at times.

Having seen the overthrows clip again I think the umpires made a mistake in awarding six runs to England, and cost New Zealand the game.

Law 19, 5 states that the run in progress should be allowed provided the batsman have crossed before the ball is released by the fieldsman. They definitely had not crossed before the ball was released, so only the first run should have been awarded, plus the four overthrows.

Taxi for @Fuengi ;

get him out of here...

Obviously delighted England won, but the umpires had a big call there and 3rd umpire to call on but still got it wrong.

Yer cab's outside Son...............

I'll get my coat.

Well, just had a read of the Laws on the MCC website for the first time in my life and @Fuengi is correct. The Law states:

19.8 Overthrow or wilful act of fielder

If the boundary results from an overthrow or from the wilful act of a fielder, the runs scored shall be

any runs for penalties awarded to either side

and the allowance for the boundary

and the runs completed by the batsmen, together with the run in progress if they had

already crossed at the instant of the throw or act.

Law 18.12.2 (Batsman returning to wicket he/she has left) shall apply as from the instant of the throw or act.

In the footage online it's clear that Stokes & Rashid had not crossed at the point that the NZ fielder threw the ball so it should have been 5 runs not 6.

Fuengi · July 2019

RandallFlagg said:

Fuengi said:

NorthernGooner said:

Fuengi said:

RandallFlagg said:

Fuengi said:

Incredible game, watched it all live on TV and the tension was unbearable at times.

Having seen the overthrows clip again I think the umpires made a mistake in awarding six runs to England, and cost New Zealand the game.

Law 19, 5 states that the run in progress should be allowed provided the batsman have crossed before the ball is released by the fieldsman. They definitely had not crossed before the ball was released, so only the first run should have been awarded, plus the four overthrows.

Taxi for @Fuengi ;

get him out of here...

Obviously delighted England won, but the umpires had a big call there and 3rd umpire to call on but still got it wrong.

Yer cab's outside Son...............

I'll get my coat.

Well, just had a read of the Laws on the MCC website for the first time in my life and @Fuengi is correct. The Law states:

19.8 Overthrow or wilful act of fielder
If the boundary results from an overthrow or from the wilful act of a fielder, the runs scored shall be
any runs for penalties awarded to either side
and     the allowance for the boundary
and the runs completed by the batsmen, together with the run in progress if they had
already crossed at the instant of the throw or act.
Law 18.12.2 (Batsman returning to wicket he/she has left) shall apply as from the instant of the throw or act.

In the footage online it's clear that Stokes & Rashid had not crossed at the point that the NZ fielder threw the ball so it should have been 5 runs not 6.

I've had a copy of MCC Masterclass for 30 years and would read the laws after matches if something occurred I wasn't sure about. I got to know them pretty well.

The law in my version is 19.5 so they have been updated in that time but it still applies the same.

I think the umpires discussed it at the time but for whatever reason did not check if they had crossed.

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