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Stuckfast · August 2018

Heartfeltdawn said:

And those wanting to see some of the past... a chap I follow on Youtube who has some nice cricket bits just put up some of the Tests from the 1962-63 Ashes.

Wow, that's amazing -- you don't often get to see players of that era in action. Interesting how fast bowling actions have changed since then. All of those guys had very curved run-ups and very side-on actions, completely unlike say Stuart Broad.

Heartfeltdawn · August 2018

scrumhalf said:

Cook got a snorter, and it doesn't bode well for tomorrow if Ashwin is on his game. I fear we will live to regret those dropped catches.

I've never liked Kohli, there's just something about him. And it's worse after his innings today.

Kohli has all the talk and backs it up. His lowest average over the 3 international formats is 48: that doesn't come about by being lucky.

crunchman · August 2018

Stuckfast said:

Heartfeltdawn said:

And those wanting to see some of the past... a chap I follow on Youtube who has some nice cricket bits just put up some of the Tests from the 1962-63 Ashes.

Wow, that's amazing -- you don't often get to see players of that era in action. Interesting how fast bowling actions have changed since then. All of those guys had very curved run-ups and very side-on actions, completely unlike say Stuart Broad.

Looks like it was still back foot no ball rule back then, given where Trueman's front foot was in his bowling stride.

The keeper and slips were respectably deep for Trueman. There is always that thing when comparing pace between different eras, but judging by that, he wasn't slow. Benaud actually said Frank Tyson was the fastest he ever saw - and he saw the likes of Holding and Thomson.

Dexter could bat a bit. He's another one of those really good players who gets forgotten.

Heartfeltdawn · August 2018

Stuckfast said:

Heartfeltdawn said:

And those wanting to see some of the past... a chap I follow on Youtube who has some nice cricket bits just put up some of the Tests from the 1962-63 Ashes.

Wow, that's amazing -- you don't often get to see players of that era in action. Interesting how fast bowling actions have changed since then. All of those guys had very curved run-ups and very side-on actions, completely unlike say Stuart Broad.

Try this. Can't remember if I've ever put this up before here but what the hell. Quite likely the only footage of SF Barnes bowling. If it was filmed in 1931 as the title says, then he would have been 58.

scrumhalf · August 2018

Not a good morning, not least the two wickets in the last over before lunch. It might be over by stumps today.

Dopesick · August 2018

Game over on Day 3. Shambles.

crunchman · August 2018

Poor

What's more worrying is that there don't seem to be any batsman outside the team knocking on the door.

I'm reading the Cricbuzz commentary at work so I haven't seen the wickets, but it doesn't sound like "good" ways of getting out. The commentary said Bairstow edged behind with an open face, and was talking about hard hands with Stokes.

I just don't think they have the mindset to keep it tight and wear the bowlers down.

crunchman · August 2018

Now Buttler second ball after lunch.

Dopesick · August 2018

Dopesick said:

Game over on Day 3. Shambles.

...I love it when I'm wrong.

Sam Curran playing a blinder - Day 4 beckoneth. Still need a bigger lead though, at least 250.

Heartfeltdawn · August 2018

It's not been a good match for those who like technique. As well as Kohli played, he should have been out well before the ton. India were awful 1st up, the dismissal of Karthik being the worst. England's 2nd knock, you'd have thought some of these guys were trying to bat on a proper Indian dusty turner or Sabina Park at it's most mental.

crunchman said:

Poor
What's more worrying is that there don't seem to be any batsman outside the team knocking on the door.
I'm reading the Cricbuzz commentary at work so I haven't seen the wickets, but it doesn't sound like "good" ways of getting out. The commentary said Bairstow edged behind with an open face, and was talking about hard hands with Stokes.
I just don't think they have the mindset to keep it tight and wear the bowlers down.

Or the technique. YJB edges to slip today playing back. His body position is horrible. Both feet are pointing at extra cover, his chest pointing the same way, the face of the bat is going to a wide mid off. All this to a good length ball from Sharma, who usually bowls quite wide of the crease.

Prior to this Test, YJB has had 6 CC innings this year and 3 Test knocks against Pakistan. Countering that are 6 ODI innings, 4 T20 knocks, and 3 more ODI games against India. So if a guy like YJB plays more limited over innings than F-C, it's no wonder the fundamentals of Test batting, which is a solid defence, is lacking.

It's not just us though. Some of the Indian shots were awful. You don't learn how to play a long innings in the nets.

crunchman · August 2018

Don't want to get too optimistic but this is an interesting list:

Highest targets successfully chased down by India outside Asia:
403 vs WI, Port of Spain, 1976
230 vs Aus, Adelaide, 2003
200 vs NZ, Dunedin, 1968
184 vs Zim, Bulawayo, 2001

Apparently India haven't successfully chased a target over 100 outside of Asia since 2003.

Now I've said that, they will probably win by 10 wickets though!

Heartfeltdawn · August 2018

crunchman said:

Don't want to get too optimistic but this is an interesting list:
Highest targets successfully chased down by India outside Asia:
403 vs WI, Port of Spain, 1976
230 vs Aus, Adelaide, 2003
200 vs NZ, Dunedin, 1968
184 vs Zim, Bulawayo, 2001
Apparently India haven't successfully chased a target over 100 outside of Asia since 2003.
Now I've said that, they will probably win by 10 wickets though!

Ha, and they'll probably do it before the end of play today...

scrumhalf · August 2018

To borrow a phrase from football, squeaky bum time.

Unless they get Kohli out, I'm pessimistic.

MrSwanson · August 2018

Went yesterday for my first test match, amazing atmosphere just a shame about the collapse...

Jonathangus · August 2018

Kohli lbw b Stokes 51.

Game on!

scrumhalf · August 2018

Game over!

Cracking test match, almost always something happening. So much better than the bat-until-you're-bored tests on flat, dead wickets.

earwighoney · August 2018

One of the most enjoyable test matches to watch for a long time.

Maybe the batting wasn't the highest quality for both sides but the bowling was good for both teams. A test of fine margins makes the spectacle far more interesting to spectate than the one sided test matches generally we get to see in English conditions, eg like the Pakistan series.

Heartfeltdawn · August 2018

scrumhalf said:

Game over!

Cracking test match, almost always something happening. So much better than the bat-until-you're-bored tests on flat, dead wickets.

When a pitch like this comes along, it shows how shit some modern batsmen are with their technique. It's exciting to watch but low quality at the same time.

Stuckfast · August 2018

Maybe some of the batting was low quality, but the duel between Anderson and Kohli in the first innings was right out of the top drawer. (Apart from Malan's catching.)

scrumhalf · August 2018

Stuckfast said:

Maybe some of the batting was low quality, but the duel between Anderson and Kohli in the first innings was right out of the top drawer. (Apart from Malan's catching.)

Malan's catching was out of the top drawer, unfortunately it should have stayed in the bloody drawer.

Our slip catching has really gone badly downhill.

crunchman · August 2018

scrumhalf said:

Stuckfast said:

Maybe some of the batting was low quality, but the duel between Anderson and Kohli in the first innings was right out of the top drawer. (Apart from Malan's catching.)

Malan's catching was out of the top drawer, unfortunately it should have stayed in the bloody drawer.

Our slip catching has really gone badly downhill.

Don't get much practice at it any more. How many slips do you see in pyjama cricket hackabouts?

Gassage · August 2018

Stokes acquitted.

Meeting him later in Bristol for celebratory voddies and ale

Heartfeltdawn · August 2018

He wouldn't last 10 minutes in St Pauls.

Should be fun to see how the ECB disrepute charge goes.

Fretwired · August 2018

Gassage said:

Stokes acquitted.

Another serious CPS cock-up. They're not fit for purpose.

Nitefly · August 2018

Fretwired said:

Gassage said:

Stokes acquitted.

Another serious CPS cock-up. They're not fit for purpose.

Interesting that the prosecution wanted to change the charges but the judge wouldn't let them...

Fretwired · August 2018

Nitefly said:

Fretwired said:

Gassage said:

Stokes acquitted.

Another serious CPS cock-up. They're not fit for purpose.

Interesting that the prosecution wanted to change the charges but the judge wouldn't let them...

Missed the deadline. The defence wouldn't have had time to prepare. They also failed to charge Alex Hales who was caught on CCTV stamping on someone's head nor call some key witnesses. Utter shambles apparently.

crunchman · August 2018

Heartfeltdawn said:

He wouldn't last 10 minutes in St Pauls.

Should be fun to see how the ECB disrepute charge goes.

Given that he's already missed the Ashes, and some of this series, I would have thought that they shouldn't be dishing out any additional punishment on top.

scrumhalf · August 2018

crunchman said:

Heartfeltdawn said:

He wouldn't last 10 minutes in St Pauls.

Should be fun to see how the ECB disrepute charge goes.

Given that he's already missed the Ashes, and some of this series, I would have thought that they shouldn't be dishing out any additional punishment on top.

I'd actually exclude him from the next available squad to reinforce the message that his conduct wasn't acceptable.

crunchman · August 2018

scrumhalf said:

crunchman said:

Heartfeltdawn said:

He wouldn't last 10 minutes in St Pauls.

Should be fun to see how the ECB disrepute charge goes.

Given that he's already missed the Ashes, and some of this series, I would have thought that they shouldn't be dishing out any additional punishment on top.

I'd actually exclude him from the next available squad to reinforce the message that his conduct wasn't acceptable.

He's been added to the squad to the third test!

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/24372410/ben-stokes-rejoins-england-squad-acquittal

quarky · August 2018

"Mr Stokes told the jury he "stepped in" to defend two gay men who were being verbally abused, and these men have appeared on Good Morning Britain to thank him for his help as they felt threatened."

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/gay-couple-at-the-centre-of-ben-stokes-trial-thank-him-for-risking-everything/ar-BBLWZKb?ocid=spartanntp

Sounds like he is due a pat on the back, not a suspension doesn't it?

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