Neural DSP Quad Cortex

wingo84 · August 2022

smudge_lad said:

How are folks powering the QC? Just with the supplied PSU? It’s a hungry unit, and disappointed I wouldn’t be able to use my DC-7

I use the DC-7

need 3 of the parallel adapters and it powers it up just fine. Takes up 4 outputs but that’s fine for me. I also have it powering my xotic wah, zendrive and King of Tone.

keir · August 2022

wingo84 said:

smudge_lad said:

How are folks powering the QC? Just with the supplied PSU? It’s a hungry unit, and disappointed I wouldn’t be able to use my DC-7

I use the DC-7

need 3 of the parallel adapters and it powers it up just fine. Takes up 4 outputs but that’s fine for me. I also have it powering my xotic wah, zendrive and King of Tone.

Have you tried doing a capture of your KOT and Zemdrive at all?

keir · August 2022

Double post

wingo84 · August 2022

keir said:

wingo84 said:

smudge_lad said:

How are folks powering the QC? Just with the supplied PSU? It’s a hungry unit, and disappointed I wouldn’t be able to use my DC-7

I use the DC-7

need 3 of the parallel adapters and it powers it up just fine. Takes up 4 outputs but that’s fine for me. I also have it powering my xotic wah, zendrive and King of Tone.

Have you tried doing a capture of your KOT and Zemdrive at all?

I captured the zen, and it’s pretty good! I like to change the setting on it, and the KOT, so it’s easier to have them through the loop.

wingo84 · August 2022

smudge_lad said:

Another question….do the scenes work like Helix Snapshots where I can have one scene with an amp set clean, another scene where it’s crunchy then another where it’s full-on drive?

Or, do I need to have 3 separate amp blocks to achieve this?

I’ve found that Any parameter you can see can be altered for a scene

keir · August 2022

wingo84 said:

keir said:

wingo84 said:

smudge_lad said:

How are folks powering the QC? Just with the supplied PSU? It’s a hungry unit, and disappointed I wouldn’t be able to use my DC-7

I use the DC-7

need 3 of the parallel adapters and it powers it up just fine. Takes up 4 outputs but that’s fine for me. I also have it powering my xotic wah, zendrive and King of Tone.

Have you tried doing a capture of your KOT and Zemdrive at all?

I captured the zen, and it’s pretty good! I like to change the setting on it, and the KOT, so it’s easier to have them through the loop.

There was an andertons video where they did and and I think once they had given the tone a nudge brighter then they said they couldn’t tell the difference. Amazing.

chrisv · August 2022

If anyone wants Lazy J, Klon, vintage Fender 5E3 captures and more besides, then by all means follow me on the Cortex app and grab 'em (username: chrisvinnicombe)

onyir · August 2022

chrisv said:

If anyone wants Lazy J, Klon, vintage Fender 5E3 captures and more besides, then by all means follow me on the Cortex app and grab 'em (username: chrisvinnicombe)

I've been using your 5E3 capture since I saw the youtube video with it. It's very nice

Wazmeister · August 2022

Back in stock at Anderson’s…

Ive got one arriving tomorrow

Wazmeister · August 2022

chrisv said:

If anyone wants Lazy J, Klon, vintage Fender 5E3 captures and more besides, then by all means follow me on the Cortex app and grab 'em (username: chrisvinnicombe)

Thanks Chris.

Have you made any YT vids on the Cortex ?

smudge_lad · August 2022

Wazmeister said:

Back in stock at Anderson’s…

Ive got one arriving tomorrow

I nearly bought one last night…

Fortheloveofguitar · August 2022

Bungle1 said:

Is anyone here using their QC with something like the Seymour Duncan Powerstage to run directly into a cab? I'm interested in how this has worked out for people.

I run mine through a SD Power Stage 200 into a Zilla 2x12.

All in all it’s absolutely fantastic. I’ve sold off 5 amps in the past few weeks and have captured most of them before I sold them and I honestly couldn’t tell the difference in both sound and feel

I was still after an Omega Ampworks Granophyre at nearly 3K but I found a guy on the app that’s captured his real amp and not the plug-in. Blown away by this captures and he’s saved me 3k

Always been a real amp guy with zero interest in digital modellers etc but took a punt to see what the hype was about. I’m really blown away by it

Jonathanthomas83 · August 2022

Wazmeister said:

chrisv said:

If anyone wants Lazy J, Klon, vintage Fender 5E3 captures and more besides, then by all means follow me on the Cortex app and grab 'em (username: chrisvinnicombe)

Thanks Chris.

Have you made any YT vids on the Cortex ?

Congrats, mate. Give us a full review when you can, please. Enjoy it!

keir · August 2022

Fortheloveofguitar said:

Bungle1 said:

Is anyone here using their QC with something like the Seymour Duncan Powerstage to run directly into a cab? I'm interested in how this has worked out for people.

I run mine through a SD Power Stage 200 into a Zilla 2x12.

All in all it’s absolutely fantastic. I’ve sold off 5 amps in the past few weeks and have captured most of them before I sold them and I honestly couldn’t tell the difference in both sound and feel

I was still after an Omega Ampworks Granophyre at nearly 3K but I found a guy on the app that’s captured his real amp and not the plug-in. Blown away by this captures and he’s saved me 3k

Always been a real amp guy with zero interest in digital modellers etc but took a punt to see what the hype was about. I’m really blown away by it

What speakers are in your Zilla cab?

Edit to add…..

I think the attraction of a modeller through a poweramp and cab is that you get that consistent sound at any volume. It’s been a while since I’ve done a gig but hoping to get back to it next year and there was nothing worse than getting your amp in the sweet spot only to have to turn it down to the point where it sounds rubbish.

I would probably only use one or 2 actual
amps but also if you go bored of your amp sound you could just change it to another one.

smudge_lad · August 2022

smudge_lad said:

Wazmeister said:

Back in stock at Anderson’s…

Ive got one arriving tomorrow

I nearly bought one last night…

Edit….bought, with the Mission Exp. Pedal.

Delivery tomorrow

Plan - some presets for running into an SD170 through either a Yamaha stereo 2x12 or Marshall stereo 4x12, or direct to FOH when I can’t be arsed carrying the cabs

Other presets for running into my Bad Cat Black Cat

Fortheloveofguitar · August 2022

keir said:

Fortheloveofguitar said:

Bungle1 said:

Is anyone here using their QC with something like the Seymour Duncan Powerstage to run directly into a cab? I'm interested in how this has worked out for people.

I run mine through a SD Power Stage 200 into a Zilla 2x12.

All in all it’s absolutely fantastic. I’ve sold off 5 amps in the past few weeks and have captured most of them before I sold them and I honestly couldn’t tell the difference in both sound and feel

I was still after an Omega Ampworks Granophyre at nearly 3K but I found a guy on the app that’s captured his real amp and not the plug-in. Blown away by this captures and he’s saved me 3k

Always been a real amp guy with zero interest in digital modellers etc but took a punt to see what the hype was about. I’m really blown away by it

What speakers are in your Zilla cab?

Edit to add…..

I think the attraction of a modeller through a poweramp and cab is that you get that consistent sound at any volume. It’s been a while since I’ve done a gig but hoping to get back to it next year and there was nothing worse than getting your amp in the sweet spot only to have to turn it down to the point where it sounds rubbish.

I would probably only use one or 2 actual
amps but also if you go bored of your amp sound you could just change it to another one.

One V30 and one Creamback 65

Bungle1 · August 2022

Fortheloveofguitar said:

Bungle1 said:

Is anyone here using their QC with something like the Seymour Duncan Powerstage to run directly into a cab? I'm interested in how this has worked out for people.

I run mine through a SD Power Stage 200 into a Zilla 2x12.

All in all it’s absolutely fantastic. I’ve sold off 5 amps in the past few weeks and have captured most of them before I sold them and I honestly couldn’t tell the difference in both sound and feel

I was still after an Omega Ampworks Granophyre at nearly 3K but I found a guy on the app that’s captured his real amp and not the plug-in. Blown away by this captures and he’s saved me 3k

Always been a real amp guy with zero interest in digital modellers etc but took a punt to see what the hype was about. I’m really blown away by it

Thanks, this is what I am hoping to do too.

Have you made any of your captures without a load-box? Normally the tutorials show running speaker-out output through a load-box and back to the QC. I'm wondering whether I can capture my amp effectively by running the FX send on my amp to the QC, but not running anything back to the amp FX return (don't want the capturing tones running through the cab).

chrisv · August 2022

Wazmeister said:

chrisv said:

If anyone wants Lazy J, Klon, vintage Fender 5E3 captures and more besides, then by all means follow me on the Cortex app and grab 'em (username: chrisvinnicombe)

Thanks Chris.

Have you made any YT vids on the Cortex ?

Not since working for Gibson ;-)

This one I did for Guitar.com last year shows off just how close the Capture process can get to the real thing:

John_P · August 2022

A heads up for anyone running the QC from a different power supply, It has a quirk that when it is underpowered it can boot up and appear to be working fine but have minimal or no output. Usually devices work or not but everything seems fine apart from the output level.

I was caught out when I first got mine and running it from a cioks dc7 I hadn’t noticed one of the power outputs was on 9V instead 12V. I had a similar issue at a festival last night running the QC and glxd wireless as normal but I added a midi controller and wah which was just enough to drop the power to the QC so I had no output while everything looked fine. Ditched the wah and midi board, rebooted and everything was fine but it can be a weird bug to track down when the display looks to be fine.

Fortheloveofguitar · August 2022

Bungle1 said:

Fortheloveofguitar said:

Bungle1 said:

Is anyone here using their QC with something like the Seymour Duncan Powerstage to run directly into a cab? I'm interested in how this has worked out for people.

I run mine through a SD Power Stage 200 into a Zilla 2x12.

All in all it’s absolutely fantastic. I’ve sold off 5 amps in the past few weeks and have captured most of them before I sold them and I honestly couldn’t tell the difference in both sound and feel

I was still after an Omega Ampworks Granophyre at nearly 3K but I found a guy on the app that’s captured his real amp and not the plug-in. Blown away by this captures and he’s saved me 3k

Always been a real amp guy with zero interest in digital modellers etc but took a punt to see what the hype was about. I’m really blown away by it

Thanks, this is what I am hoping to do too.

Have you made any of your captures without a load-box? Normally the tutorials show running speaker-out output through a load-box and back to the QC. I'm wondering whether I can capture my amp effectively by running the FX send on my amp to the QC, but not running anything back to the amp FX return (don't want the capturing tones running through the cab).

You can do that but then you’re not capturing the power amp of you come out of the Fx send

I use a load box with a line out back to the Cortex so I capture the whole amp

I like all my captures without speakers

Wazmeister · August 2022

Well, I've probably had an hour with it so far...

Just tried the effects and looper into the Two Rock. Very impressive.

The looper is superb. Not unlike the FM3, and certainly very easy to use.

In fact, the whole unit is fun !!

Wazmeister · August 2022

chrisv said:

Wazmeister said:

chrisv said:

If anyone wants Lazy J, Klon, vintage Fender 5E3 captures and more besides, then by all means follow me on the Cortex app and grab 'em (username: chrisvinnicombe)

Thanks Chris.

Have you made any YT vids on the Cortex ?

Not since working for Gibson ;-)

This one I did for Guitar.com last year shows off just how close the Capture process can get to the real thing:

Thanks Chris !

I didn't know you had moved over to Gibson; congrats

keir · August 2022

Are you able to put a fuzz in the fx send and return or is it buffered? Had a look in the manual but can’t see it there

mrkb · August 2022

keir said:

Are you able to put a fuzz in the fx send and return or is it buffered? Had a look in the manual but can’t see it there

Surely the fx loop will be after the DACs so the fuzz won’t see the guitar pick-up load.

BGG · August 2022

Liked the look of the QC and the smaller footprint etc.
Then remembered I have large, wide clumsy feet and struggle with most pedalboards and my Kemper Remote lol.

Think I’ll just stick to my Kemper for now.

NelsonP · August 2022

I'm reading some of these posts about re-amping and cabs and thinking 'Surely the capture is of the amp, cab, speaker and mic combination'. If you then re-amp it and play it throught another monitor, that needs to be FRFR or else it won't sound like the original?'.

SD powerstage = good. Zilla 2 x 12 with a V30 and Creamback = not good. Laney LFR212 = better? Right?

2 x LFR212's in stereo, wet, dry = even better?

Fiftyshadesofjay · August 2022

Had a little play around with the unit in 4cm, sounded great. No tone loss to speak of and the newer effects such as the Phase 95 and Dimension are great.

Could really do with a device to switch the channels of the Rockerverb via QC midi.

The Suhr midi thingy looks ideal but looks like it basically doesn’t exist in the UK.

Anybody know of any alternatives?

keir · August 2022

Not sure if the Morningstar relay would work
https://www.morningstar.io/relay-interface

it doesn’t tell you what midi messages you use to send the signal unfortunately, you do it all in their editor.

mrkb · August 2022

keir said:

Not sure if the Morningstar relay would work
https://www.morningstar.io/relay-interface

it doesn’t tell you what midi messages you use to send the signal unfortunately, you do it all in their editor.

That only works with the morning star MC series controllers, not general midi signals.

I use a Voodoo labs midi control switcher which allows upto 4 separate TS signals (i combine two into one TRS to amp) used standard midi and can be manualls overridden with the red buttons. They appear on used market fairly regularly.

Voodoo Lab Control Switcher MIDI Amp Channel Switcher | Sweetwater

Bungle1 · August 2022

NelsonP said:

I'm reading some of these posts about re-amping and cabs and thinking 'Surely the capture is of the amp, cab, speaker and mic combination'. If you then re-amp it and play it throught another monitor, that needs to be FRFR or else it won't sound like the original?'.

SD powerstage = good. Zilla 2 x 12 with a V30 and Creamback = not good. Laney LFR212 = better? Right?

2 x LFR212's in stereo, wet, dry = even better?

You can capture fully mic'ed up cab etc for recording purposes, and that would be better through FRFR, but you can also capture a mic/cab-less version of the amp which you can then play through a normal cab while retaining the original tone/feel.

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