Sasquatch and on ... Huddersfield Jam #2

ArchtopDave · August 2018

I'm not coming for a series of reasons. Some are to do with what's been going on here, and some due to home circumstances. I'll leave it at that, but I hope those, who do attend, have a good time.

Bridgehouse · August 2018

ArchtopDave said:

I'm not coming for a series of reasons. Some are to do with what's been going on here, and some due to home circumstances. I'll leave it at that, but I hope those, who do attend, have a good time.

The atmosphere at the jams is very very different from how it often is on here.

The internet is a great thing, but it’s a massive pain in the bollocks at the same time - it makes people say things in haste, and things can get misinterpreted so quickly.

Alnico · August 2018

Bridgehouse said:

ArchtopDave said:

I'm not coming for a series of reasons. Some are to do with what's been going on here, and some due to home circumstances. I'll leave it at that, but I hope those, who do attend, have a good time.

The atmosphere at the jams is very very different from how it often is on here.

The internet is a great thing, but it’s a massive pain in the bollocks at the same time - it makes people say things in haste, and things can get misinterpreted so quickly.

Couldn't agree more about the atmosphere at a Jam Session.

The world outside disappears and differences vanish as everyone has kittens about not having practiced at all until yesterday.

We're all dickheads to someone and we all know a few.

We've all said daft things online and face to face at some point in our lives.

You might not be the only one putting personal feelings aside on the day either.

Good luck to you Dave, whether you come along or not but say hello if you do.

m_c · August 2018

I'm going to bail on this as well.

I've been working far too much the past couple months, and have hardly picked up a guitar, which is why I've not been on here much lately except for a quick look now and then (have I missed more handbags being swung???).
So I just want a weekend to relax, and do as little as possible.

I did send the money at the start of the week for the jam, which I'm more than happy to still go towards the event/tFB funds, as it's something I really do hope continues.

LuttiS · August 2018

HOLYSHITLOOKWHATSOPPOSITETHECAMBRIDGEHOTEL!

McToot · August 2018

Do we have a running order yet? That will dictate my cramming today (I'm supposed to be working from home and keeping the kids from killing each other, but guitar practice has to take precedence)...

Sasquatch_Bob · August 2018

LuttiS said:

HOLYSHITLOOKWHATSOPPOSITETHECAMBRIDGEHOTEL!

That would be amazing.

Snags · August 2018

@McToot No cramming! That's not fair. I have to do actual work, and then actual domesticity tonight. No last minute revision here

Modellista · August 2018

McToot said:

Do we have a running order yet? That will dictate my cramming today (I'm supposed to be working from home and keeping the kids from killing each other, but guitar practice has to take precedence)...

Not sure what the running order is. Cramming also happened here, I think I've reached saturation point. What's not learned will have to stay unlearned!

pmbomb · August 2018

LuttiS said:

HOLYSHITLOOKWHATSOPPOSITETHECAMBRIDGEHOTEL!

priorities buddy - this is a mere taxi ride away https://www.magicrockbrewing.com/tap-room/

Bridgehouse · August 2018

@Legionreturns is on running order duty

LuttiS · August 2018

pmbomb said:

LuttiS said:

HOLYSHITLOOKWHATSOPPOSITETHECAMBRIDGEHOTEL!

priorities buddy - this is a mere taxi ride away https://www.magicrockbrewing.com/tap-room/

Haha, can't argue with that

Modellista · August 2018

pmbomb said:

LuttiS said:

HOLYSHITLOOKWHATSOPPOSITETHECAMBRIDGEHOTEL!

priorities buddy - this is a mere taxi ride away https://www.magicrockbrewing.com/tap-room/

In fact only 4 mins stagger walk...

McToot · August 2018

Snags said:

@McToot No cramming! That's not fair. I have to do actual work, and then actual domesticity tonight. No last minute revision here

So far I have done SFA. Two kids getting really bored, a Sky engineer installing stuff and it IS FECKIN HOT, so nothing.

At this rate I'm going to be winging it big time and when you have my skill levels, that could be car crash territory.

McToot · August 2018

One thing I have done is restrung my 80s-tastic Jackson, which I think is a must for Danger Zone. But I've never re-strung a Floydy geetar before (I've not had this long) and I fear I may have guffed it up - maybe the strong gauge was heavier than I thought. Basically the Floyd has tipped up so it's sloping high to low towards the bridge pick up. What have I done wrong? Or do I need to tighten or loosen the springs...

LuttiS · August 2018

McToot said:

One thing I have done is restrung my 80s-tastic Jackson, which I think is a must for Danger Zone. But I've never re-strung a Floydy geetar before (I've not had this long) and I fear I may have guffed it up - maybe the strong gauge was heavier than I thought. Basically the Floyd has tipped up so it's sloping high to low towards the bridge pick up. What have I done wrong? Or do I need to tighten or loosen the springs...

Loosen the springs as they pulling it down too much

If you're having trouble bring it up tomorrow and i'm sure there are plenty of us who can help sort it out.. Floyds are well annoying

Legionreturns · August 2018

Right...

This is a major ballache as I'm still not clear on who's there on each day, and what songs people want to gig and therefore need to be Saturday.

I recall we said we were going to allow more time, so, 20 ish minutes per song.

If you are on a song you want to gig, please tell me! I'll be updating this tomorrow throughout the day, and will be happy to change stuff about.

In the mean time, here's my work in progress, that you should be able to edit.

https://1drv.ms/x/s!AhXFsWIzRPPYkE3I44V8ptxPOhwQ

Snags · August 2018

I imagine the "gigging" bit will end up being a team decision once we've discovered whether they go well or kfuc up royally

However, in principle I'm content to gig anything I'm playing on as long as everyone else is. Whether I want to is another matter entirely

If the gig ends up looking a bit content-light I'm sure we can pull a few easy crowd-pleasers out as buskers (Stuck in the middle, Bad Moon Rising that kind of thing).

McToot · August 2018

LuttiS said:

McToot said:

One thing I have done is restrung my 80s-tastic Jackson, which I think is a must for Danger Zone. But I've never re-strung a Floydy geetar before (I've not had this long) and I fear I may have guffed it up - maybe the strong gauge was heavier than I thought. Basically the Floyd has tipped up so it's sloping high to low towards the bridge pick up. What have I done wrong? Or do I need to tighten or loosen the springs...

Loosen the springs as they pulling it down too much

If you're having trouble bring it up tomorrow and i'm sure there are plenty of us who can help sort it out.. Floyds are well annoying

Thanks. I've had a play around and I think I'm getting there...

McToot · August 2018

I'm not mad keen on gigging. It takes away valuable drinking time. And if I have made full use of said drinking time, I will be no good gigging. The Into the Great wide open is the one I'm weakest on too...

Snags · August 2018

If @Legionreturns wants to give his lungs the full workout I'm sure we could blag it either way, even in a stripped back format.

Legionreturns · August 2018

My YBTB mate James is also keen to play stuff, both during the day and at the gig

darthed1981 · August 2018

I'm quite keen to gig stuff, would love to do champagne supernova in the evening

Alnico · August 2018

LuttiS said:

McToot said:

One thing I have done is restrung my 80s-tastic Jackson, which I think is a must for Danger Zone. But I've never re-strung a Floydy geetar before (I've not had this long) and I fear I may have guffed it up - maybe the strong gauge was heavier than I thought. Basically the Floyd has tipped up so it's sloping high to low towards the bridge pick up. What have I done wrong? Or do I need to tighten or loosen the springs...

Loosen the springs as they pulling it down too much

If you're having trouble bring it up tomorrow and i'm sure there are plenty of us who can help sort it out.. Floyds are well annoying

I can tell you how to do it now...

1 - Undo the locking nut.

2 - Slacken the springs until the bridge is tipping up above the body, like a ski ramp with the high end towards the back of the guitar.

3 - Point the tremolo arm towards the back of the guitar and press down on it, giving you upwards tremolo movement. Do this while being able to see into the tremolo cavity at the back.

4 - With the tremolo being held so it sits perfectly level with the body of the guitar, measure the gap between the back of the block and the front face of tremolo cavity rear wall. It should be around the 20mm mark.

5 - Get a stack of copper coins the same size as the gap you have at the back of your block and use masking tape to wrap them together around their edges, so they look like a roll of coins from the bank.

6 - Try your coins block behind your tremolo block and see how level the base plate of the tremolo is sitting in relation to the top of the guitar. If it's still stilted upwards, the block isn't quite thick enough so remove the coins from the guitar and add more. If it's tilted backwards into the routed cavity on the top of the guitar, you've used too many coins and you need to remove one or two. Fine tune this using pieces of card, plastic or whatever but aim to get the base plate of the tremolo sitting level with the top of the guitar. String tension alone will hold it there and you can use the tremolo arm to go up, insert the coins and then trap them there by letting gently down on the tremolo arm.

7 - Now tune the guitar as per normal with the tremolo blocked up. Make sure the fine tuners are halfway through their travel so you'll still have up and down movement with them when you're locked down.

8 - Once tuned and stretched in, lock the nut.

9 - Now remove the coins block by going up on the tremolo arm to release it, pull the coins out from behind the block and gently let the tremolo down until you reach the SPRING tension and assess where the base plate is sitting. As you slackened the springs earlier this is going to be upwards towards the back of the guitar.

10 - Tighten SPRINGS until high E is in tune.

**All 6 strings will now be almost perfectly in tune and you'll only need to use fine tuners to level them out.**

Because you locked the nut down when you had the tremolo blocked, the system stays locked and keeps the tuning/tension, so all you have to do is replicate where the coins held the base plate with spring tension and the system returns to where you left it locked.

If you block the front of the tremolo block in exactly the same way, you can use that for string changes and it'll be like changing the strings on a hardtail guitar, just take them all off, put new ones on and then tune up as normal. Lock the nut down and then take the block out from in front of the tremolo block. It'll all be exactly the same if you use the same gauge strings and you just need to fine tune it. If it's out of tune, adjust the springs until the High E is back in tune and because the other 5 were before you locked the nut, so now they all will still be in tune when the high E is back in tune. You're just replicating what the coins did, with the SPRING tension again.

FR systems are easy as hell if you make blocks for the front and rear of the tremolo sustain block.

Block the rear for working on springs while maintaining STRING tension.

Block the front for working on Strings while maintaining SPRING tension.

Alnico · August 2018

Watch THIS...

shuikit · August 2018

What time are people arriving etc?

Alnico · August 2018

Cafe at 10am and go from there.

Legionreturns · August 2018

shuikit said:

What time are people arriving etc?

Anyone arriving before 12 will be put to work...

But...

Alnico said:

Cafe at 10am and go from there.

Merrie England is just up the road and does legendary breakfast scran!

Snags · August 2018

Sometime between 10:30 and 12:00, traffic dependent. Happy to be put to work.

darthed1981 · August 2018

I can't leave too early because of the kids but would expect to get there around 12, traffic permitting...

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