Fretboard Jam 2017 - Logistics

TTony · July 2017

Alnico said:
in fact I knew when I looked through the list who was missing just by looking.

Sounds like that's a useful list.

Alnico · July 2017

TTony said:

Alnico said:
in fact I knew when I looked through the list who was missing just by looking.

Sounds like that's a useful list.

It's great, everyone's contribution to this is great.
Thanks to everyone who's part of this event.

adampeter · July 2017

If im lucky enough to grab a spot will be travelling over from Ely in Cambridgeshire and would be happy to pick up someone on the way

spark240 · July 2017

Parking...has this been done already ?

On street looks like about 3-4 hrs max.

Nearest P&D about £4 all day but small.

https://en.parkopedia.co.uk/parking/carpark/st_margarets_pastures/le1/leicester/?arriving=201707272100&leaving=201707272300

Alnico · July 2017

spark240 said:

Parking...has this been done already ?

On street looks like about 3-4 hrs max.

Nearest P&D about £4 all day but small.

https://en.parkopedia.co.uk/parking/carpark/st_margarets_pastures/le1/leicester/?arriving=201707272100&leaving=201707272300

Quad has a car park, doesn't it?
It's not exactly in a massively busy place, it's an old warehouse at the end of a back street.

Legionreturns · July 2017

spark240 said:

Parking...has this been done already ?

On street looks like about 3-4 hrs max.

Nearest P&D about £4 all day but small.

https://en.parkopedia.co.uk/parking/carpark/st_margarets_pastures/le1/leicester/?arriving=201707272100&leaving=201707272300

It was talked about. Apparently Quad has a massive car park

TTony · July 2017

Legionreturns said:

spark240 said:

Parking...has this been done already ?

On street looks like about 3-4 hrs max.

Nearest P&D about £4 all day but small.

https://en.parkopedia.co.uk/parking/carpark/st_margarets_pastures/le1/leicester/?arriving=201707272100&leaving=201707272300

It was talked about. Apparently Quad has a massive car park

And last time, a large part of it was being used by the local VW (?) commercials dealer for their overflow stock. There were probably 10-15 empty spaces.

Alnico · July 2017

TTony said:

Legionreturns said:

spark240 said:

Parking...has this been done already ?

On street looks like about 3-4 hrs max.

Nearest P&D about £4 all day but small.

https://en.parkopedia.co.uk/parking/carpark/st_margarets_pastures/le1/leicester/?arriving=201707272100&leaving=201707272300

It was talked about. Apparently Quad has a massive car park

And last time, a large part of it was being used by the local VW (?) commercials dealer for their overflow stock. There were probably 10-15 empty spaces.

Good point Tony.

I wonder if @Bridgehouse gets time over the next 5 weeks, he could check the current situation with that?

Legionreturns · July 2017

Seems a good time to mention there are lots of people that haven't mentioned their travel plans (see post 3 on this thread) so we can look at setting up car shares for those that are willing and able

Alnico · July 2017

Legionreturns said:

Seems a good time to mention there are lots of people that haven't mentioned their travel plans (see post 3 on this thread) so we can look at setting up car shares for those that are willing and able

I should mention this now then, I was going to wait until the person I've asked for a lift got back to me but it won#t make any difference to this post if they do or don't.

I can't drive.
I *could* but I would be risking other road users safety and breaking the new law.
The Doctor has had me on Tramadol pain killers for the last month or two and I found out yesterday that the specialist appointment I need isn't for another 12 weeks and I'll have to keep taking them.
Tramadol is on the list of Prescription medication that the Police treat the same as alcohol and for good reason, it makes my head swim and I'm nowhere near sharp enough to drive. Now that I know I will still be taking them in 5 weeks time, there is NO WAY I can knowingly go and hire a car and drive.
We're all good people and we all know how important road safety is, maybe me even more so given what I spent my working life doing before I became invalid.

So, My planned trip to Liverpool afterwards is cancelled and I won't be able to help out with lifts. I will also ONLY be able to bring one guitar (My Strat) and my Effects case (GT100) but as my amp is needed for the shootout and it's essentially tiny (CODE 25) then I will bring that as well but that's me.

Can't drive and getting a lift with some kind soul.....TBC.

I'm really sorry if anyone was looking at me for a lift and @ChrisMusic I was very happy to go out of my way to get you but I just can't do it now.
It would be more than irresponsible of me to even think about driving knowing this and I'll be honest, even if it wasn't the law I would be nervous as hell driving with my head in this state.

Legionreturns · July 2017

@Alnico sorry to hear that bud, however, there are a shit load of people coming from the south lands, I'm absolutely certain one of them would be happy to pick up one of our übergrüpenführers, without whom this event would not be taking place.

Alnico · July 2017

Legionreturns said:

@Alnico sorry to hear that bud, however, there are a shit load of people coming from the south lands, I'm absolutely certain one of them would be happy to pick up one of our übergrüpenführers, without whom this event would not be taking place.

One of them has already said he would, we're just checking on available space in the Kubelwagen.

Alnico · July 2017

Thanks to @Nikko for helping me out with a lift.
Himself and @TheBlueWolf are coming to get me in Bedford on our way to the Musical centre of the Universe and I shall be paying the fuel cost thereof, both ways which makes it a nice cheap day out for the driver.

Thanks mate, MUCH appreciated.

Nikko · July 2017

No problem, but you don't need to give me anything for fuel. I'm already going there

Alnico · July 2017

Nikko said:

No problem, but you don't need to give me anything for fuel. I'm already going there

It'll make for an interesting car game, seeing how I can either hide £20 in your car somewhere without you noticing or somehow pay for something before you do.
Nice one!

Nikko · July 2017

Ha ha it's On!!

Legionreturns · July 2017

Hiding peanuts in other people's cars is also a fun game...

Nikko · July 2017

Mmmm peanuts.

Bridgehouse · July 2017

Better than hiding a fish in the air con

Nikko · July 2017

Note to self; never give @Bridgehouse a lift ANYWHERE!

Bridgehouse · July 2017

Nikko said:

Note to self; never give @Bridgehouse a lift ANYWHERE!

A fish in the aircon isn't the worst thing I could think of..

slacker · July 2017

@Alnico if you have problems getting a lift let me know. Bring some spare Tramadol.

Alnico · July 2017

slacker said:

@Alnico if you have problems getting a lift let me know. Bring some spare Tramadol.

Thanks,
I have a lift now with Nikko but I know you're local to me and I appreciate the offer.
I'll have some with me, I don't dare go without now the doctor has so kindly got me hooked on them.
(NOT Happy about that at all !!)

Modellista · August 2017

Alnico said:

Tramadol is on the list of Prescription medication that the Police treat the same as alcohol

Technically this isn't correct - if it's a prescribed medication there isn't a legal limit for taking them. There's only a limit if you're taking them without a prescription.

However it is an offence to drive impaired, which by your own definition you are, so clearly a good idea to stay off the road until you're off them. People getting addicted to prescribed opioids seems like an increasingly common problem. Best of luck.

Alnico · August 2017

modellista said:

Alnico said:

Tramadol is on the list of Prescription medication that the Police treat the same as alcohol

Technically this isn't correct - if it's a prescribed medication there isn't a legal limit for taking them. There's only a limit if you're taking them without a prescription.

However it is an offence to drive impaired, which by your own definition you are, so clearly a good idea to stay off the road until you're off them. People getting addicted to prescribed opioids seems like an increasingly common problem. Best of luck.

Thanks.

In the last week or so I've managed to come down to using only about 4-5 per day from waking up to sleeping but I'd have to stay at that level now as any less just won't keep the pain away.
I am still however not fit to or confident in driving so I'm still going to give it a miss and catch the very kind lift I've been offered.
Add to the way I feel, the fact that I've not been behind the wheel at all in around 16 months and it's a recipe for disaster if I did.
Thanks for the legal Info, that's useful. I had misunderstood it, I simply don't want to cause any harm.

It's very worrying being "On" something like this that I have to take or I'll get withdrawal symptoms. I didn't find this out until I'd been taking them for a few weeks. There wasn't a choice though, I tried the other pain killers and they don't work and when Rheumatology are talking October at the earliest for the specialist referral then there didn't seem to be much choice.

Thanks for looking that up @modellista ;

darthed1981 · August 2017

Alnico said:

modellista said:

Alnico said:

Tramadol is on the list of Prescription medication that the Police treat the same as alcohol

Technically this isn't correct - if it's a prescribed medication there isn't a legal limit for taking them. There's only a limit if you're taking them without a prescription.

However it is an offence to drive impaired, which by your own definition you are, so clearly a good idea to stay off the road until you're off them. People getting addicted to prescribed opioids seems like an increasingly common problem. Best of luck.

Thanks.

In the last week or so I've managed to come down to using only about 4-5 per day from waking up to sleeping but I'd have to stay at that level now as any less just won't keep the pain away.
I am still however not fit to or confident in driving so I'm still going to give it a miss and catch the very kind lift I've been offered.
Add to the way I feel, the fact that I've not been behind the wheel at all in around 16 months and it's a recipe for disaster if I did.
Thanks for the legal Info, that's useful. I had misunderstood it, I simply don't want to cause any harm.

It's very worrying being "On" something like this that I have to take or I'll get withdrawal symptoms. I didn't find this out until I'd been taking them for a few weeks. There wasn't a choice though, I tried the other pain killers and they don't work and when Rheumatology are talking October at the earliest for the specialist referral then there didn't seem to be much choice.

Thanks for looking that up @modellista ;

You are being very sensible, the state some people are willing to get behind the wheel in is terrifying, glad you could get a lift.

Glad you had a blizzard of offers already but if any of it falls through I can always dogleg on the way to get @impmann ;

Modellista · August 2017

You're welcome. I have a relative who I suspect is in a similar situation - the painkillers are needed for back and leg pain and they're not quite the same person when they're on them, but can't stop taking them both due to the pain and, I think, due to dependency. Quite a quandary. They are still driving though, hence my knowing the exact legal standpoint.

Alnico · August 2017

modellista said:

You're welcome. I have a relative who I suspect is in a similar situation - the painkillers are needed for back and leg pain and they're not quite the same person when they're on them, but can't stop taking them both due to the pain and, I think, due to dependency. Quite a quandary. They are still driving though, hence my knowing the exact legal standpoint.

I feel for you.
I get bouts of stupid feelings and anxiety which I have to work hard to control but since I started them a couple of months ago I've learned how to recognise that and my two closest friends have been an incredible support with that.
I have no doubt I'm dependant on them now, in fact, one day a couple of weeks ago I tried not taking them one day to see what would happen and the effects the next day were horrific. I quickly started again and within hours everything was fine.......the magic pill. THAT is not a nice feeling, knowing I can't stop taking them.
I know I will do eventually, I'll have to reduce one each day over a period of time etc.

I have found it's made me VERY clumsy, far much more than normal and to the point where I'm worried about doing some of the things I would normally find very easy.
Yesterday I slipped while installing some tremolo springs in the back of my Ibanez and put 3 fairly big scratches into the back of the guitar. Things like that make me feel really bad about myself and like I'm useless and that's not me. It makes me feel really worried about doing other things too, sometimes even basic things.

It's not long term though and the guitar can be fixed.
I'm going to speak to our resident paint guru when I can and ask him to try to repair it. It's on the back and I suppose out of sight but it's a 1-month-old guitar and otherwise, it's pristine condition. I had just finished fitting all new pickups and wiring, which ironically I had no problem doing.........Go figure.

Hopefully, the Hospital will work out why I'm in so much pain (It came on without warning or reason in June) and then I can get 'Off' the Tramadol and maybe take either something less serious or nothing at all if they can fix the problem.

If it weren't for my friends I would have cracked.

I had only just come through rehab when all this started and despite the pain and the feelings, I'm still clean. 5 months yesterday. Given that I only have to go 2 minutes from where I live to get 'Some' I'm quietly impressed with myself for that but what gets me is that I'm not exactly "Clean" when I'm on Tramadol. I put a lot of hard work into pulling myself through rehab only to find that I have to feel like this almost immediately afterwards when I should have been enjoying being actually clean and feeling clear headed.
If I hadn't cleaned up though, I'm sure this would all be a lot worse though and I don't miss my old lifestyle.
I'm cleaner than I was and this Tramadol is helping in its way, plus it doesn't rinse my bank account so I've still got my life back in many ways.

I've had to put my plans for the Gym off until next year though!
lol

Thanks for letting me talk about it.
This has been driving me up the wall for weeks now.

Alnico · August 2017

darthed1981 said:

Alnico said:

modellista said:

Alnico said:

Tramadol is on the list of Prescription medication that the Police treat the same as alcohol

Technically this isn't correct - if it's a prescribed medication there isn't a legal limit for taking them. There's only a limit if you're taking them without a prescription.

However it is an offence to drive impaired, which by your own definition you are, so clearly a good idea to stay off the road until you're off them. People getting addicted to prescribed opioids seems like an increasingly common problem. Best of luck.

Thanks.

In the last week or so I've managed to come down to using only about 4-5 per day from waking up to sleeping but I'd have to stay at that level now as any less just won't keep the pain away.
I am still however not fit to or confident in driving so I'm still going to give it a miss and catch the very kind lift I've been offered.
Add to the way I feel, the fact that I've not been behind the wheel at all in around 16 months and it's a recipe for disaster if I did.
Thanks for the legal Info, that's useful. I had misunderstood it, I simply don't want to cause any harm.

It's very worrying being "On" something like this that I have to take or I'll get withdrawal symptoms. I didn't find this out until I'd been taking them for a few weeks. There wasn't a choice though, I tried the other pain killers and they don't work and when Rheumatology are talking October at the earliest for the specialist referral then there didn't seem to be much choice.

Thanks for looking that up @modellista ;

You are being very sensible, the state some people are willing to get behind the wheel in is terrifying, glad you could get a lift.

Glad you had a blizzard of offers already but if any of it falls through I can always dogleg on the way to get @impmann ;

Thanks Ed, That's great of you.
Really appreciate that.

TheBlueWolf · August 2017

@Alnico catching up on this thread jogged my memory about painkillers. I'll WhatsApp you about it.

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