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I think the opportunity to film and record an amp shootout like that is rare so I reckon it's worth a little bit of effort to get it as good as we can.
How many times do you hear people complain at the quality of a recording when they're watching something like that saying things like "Why did you bother...?" Etc.
I have the possible YT channel that Lee spoke about in my mind and if we make a real success of the shootout even better that it's filmed at a successful community jam session I think it will REALLY stand out in YT land amongst the rubbish we so often see.
Just my thoughts but I spend a lot of time on YT and I say that line often so I'm sure others do too.
How cool would it be to have comments that praise us for not only producing something worth listening to but also then when people use those demos to make an amp buying decision and come back to praise us for helping them.
A good show here will last and last and make the forum look great in the public domain.
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Just because you're paranoid, don't mean they're not after youI am planning on bringing a Pana LX7 and a couple of GoPros for video; then a DSLR for stills.
i wouldn't want the responsibility of relying on in camera audio. I did have a Tascam Dr07mk2 which was good but I sold it to upgrade to one with more on board eq options but as of yet I have yet to get the upgrade.
That's pressure i definitely do NOT want on my first stage jam, thanks!!!
if theres anything to make someone self conscious, its this.
Not sure how others feel, but it's not helpful.
Of course, hearing yourself play is very helpful for development and it's another opportunity to get pressure free experience of the whole recording malarkey
Perhaps the recording bit could be confined to a pre-agreed period, perhaps 3-4, so those "performing" have a chance to warm up, those recording have had time to set the kit up and confirm it's all working, and those who'd prefer not to be captured "performing" can be offstage?
I for one think a video diary edited with a few songs in it would be a fantastic memento of the day and I want all the footage I can get of me playing just to help me improve more.
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Just because you're paranoid, don't mean they're not after youI was (and still am?) the one going to play on that, through each amp etc.
It was about taking the opportunity of having a room where we can turn it up a bit and all the different amps together at the same time with the same player, same guitar etc.
I'm not sure about whatever people think but we're not filming the Jam at all unless someone specifically asked us to then I guess it would be rude to say no to them but I for one wasn't expecting that. We were going to shoot, hopefully, to produce maybe 20 minutes of subjective amp comparisons and I was concerned about the quality of the sound.
As far as I'm aware, no one mentioned filming the jam session or any performances did they?
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If that's how you and others feel about being filmed, that's fine. It was never the plan anyway.
I had no plans to film you or anyone else except the amps and I'm happy to be the one playing in that film, that was the whole and only point of that sub-discussion.
If any of the others had plans to film the Jam, they haven't told me about it and it's not been posted in this thread as far as I can see.
(I'd quite like any songs I play in to be filmed or recorded but if that's not the plan no worries)
My Trading Feedback | You Bring The Band
Just because you're paranoid, don't mean they're not after youThere are various degrees of playing ability on this forum ranging from pro level awesomeness to, well, me.
They will be filming an amp shoot out in one room while I publically make myself look an arse in the other. That's fine by me.
but it's really not a problem to me, I shall bring a guitar instead of camera gear so to avoid any potential issues and keep it relaxed.
As each person "Has a Go", we'll ALL do EVERYTHING it's possible to do, to make sure that their 15 minutes is what THEY want it to be.
THAT was the original plan and the Ethos behind this.
I'm wondering whether nerves are getting to people already and they're misreading this?
If you want a spotlight, we'll try to arrange one. If you want to be filmed or even streamed live on social media, we'll try everything we know how to do that for you but if not then THAT'S FINE, None of us are going to force that on you and we weren't contemplating doing so.
We actually wanted to give everyone a chance to experience playing live with a band in a closed environment where they didn't feel under pressure and could relax.
To be part of any proper live group, you have to play in front of people at some point and this was meant as an ice breaker for that.
Helping people.
Why would we go to all this trouble to do this FOR OTHERS and then turn it on its head and purposely or even inconsiderately make them feel uncomfortable?
So far, every *Suggestion!* we've had, we've done our best to implement.
Every wish, we've tried to accommodate and we'll keep trying.
The people running this all have played live many times and regularly do still, we don't need to do it, we WANT to do it for the social aspect and to help people further back down the road from us to get to a place we all know is a cool place to be (Figuratively speaking).
So......before we go any further, does everyone get this now?
If anyone wants to do FX reviews, or guitar reviews, or anything else like that, also = great idea.
(if there are any volunteers?). Perhaps a video' guitar setup would also work well (@wezv?).
Any / all of the above could be the start of some extended content for the forum perhaps?
IMHO, filming / recording the jam session ** at some stage in the afternoon ** would also be a good thing to do, as long as those being filmed were comfortable with it. Hence the suggestion that we aim for a specific time slot for that to happen, not least so that there's an opportunity to do a run through or two before any presses the big red "record" button, and anyone who doesn't want to be in front of the camera can ensure that they're not.
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Amp shootout recording - fine
Other gear reviews or demos with players permission - fine
Normal jam session - no recording.
Except, if all players taking part request the session to be recorded - then fine.
We are all adults and it's meant to be a fun day. Nothing serious, nothing pressured.
On the day, if you aren't comfortable with something then say so, and as organisers we will ensure it's sorted and you can carry on without feeling uncomfortable.
Please do appreciate that there's quite some work involved in planning and organising an event like this, and we will do our best to accommodate everyone, as we can, when we can.
However, we can't do the impossible - we will have a go, but no guarantees.
@Bridgehouse @Alnico - i appreciate all the work thats going in to this day. Many many thanks to both of you. Sorry if i misconstrued your efforts. Im okay about it now that i have calmed down.
@Legionreturns - i'll be up for being filmed one day, just not for my first.
All - i am looking forward to filling your ears with the strangest of noises in a few weeks time. Buy your ear plugs now while stocks last.
Details on Mic placement please.
Other than that, I'd be up for someone taking a look at my guitar to make sure its set-up as well as can be and to learn how to do it properly myself.
If only i sounded calm and reassuring like Ben from Crimson guitars
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I'm not a tech and I don't get as heavily involved as some but providing you don't need things like frets levelling or nuts replacing, setting up what's already there is something I can do for you. If we have strings to fit as well then a clean up and restring plus check it all over and reset as needed will probably work wonders.
I'm sure if I can't or I'm busy with something else, either @Bridgehouse @WezV @Roland @impmann and quite a few others will be able to use the tools we have collectively and help.
I've been restocking my guitar toolbox so opening that up and laying it all out might be something for those who aren't sure of what to have in a guitar toolkit might enjoy looking at. There's probably more in there than you'd imagine and everything has a purpose in some way.
I'm pretty sure Glenn Fricker did an episode of Spectre Sound Studios covering this topic but it might be interesting for some to see.
What guitar is it you have?
I've heard myself sing on mic and felt fine with that but my speaking voice recorded sounds like some knackered old man from Liverpool.
Oh,.......Wait a minute.............!
The guitar I have is a Yamaha Pacifica 112 - it seems ok to me in terms of set-up, but I am pretty sure that it could be made much better. I've played with setting it up a little and adjusted the odd string here and there, but mainly I just tune it! I would love to make sure that its sounding its best and also to learn more about how to do it.
Cheers