Fretboard Jam - 2017 Leicester - 2nd September - Running Order V4 Now up!!

Alnico · July 2017

HPhillipsmusic said:

I'd love to come along please if there is still space. Happy to drive anyone from N London/Herts area too.

There isn't at the moment but there is a reserve list.
Both the main list and reserve list below it are in Logistics thread.
I'll add you to the reserve list when I get home in half an hour or so.
There's likely to be (but not guaranteed) people who can't make it and have to pull out between now and Sept 2nd.
When they do the reserve list people get a place in turn.
I'll add you to the reserve list and when people from that list get a place I'll pm them to make sure they know.

TTony · July 2017

Bridgehouse said:

I will ask @TTony to unlock the songs thread later tonight.

All sounds good to me - I'll re-open the songs thread when you say the so.

Alnico · July 2017

Alnico said:

HPhillipsmusic said:

I'd love to come along please if there is still space. Happy to drive anyone from N London/Herts area too.

There isn't at the moment but there is a reserve list.
Both the main list and reserve list below it are in Logistics thread.
I'll add you to the reserve list when I get home in half an hour or so.
There's likely to be (but not guaranteed) people who can't make it and have to pull out between now and Sept 2nd.
When they do the reserve list people get a place in turn.
I'll add you to the reserve list and when people from that list get a place I'll pm them to make sure they know.

That's done for you now @HPhillipsmusic
You're currently number 4 on the reserve list.
As there isn't many of you, I'll PM all of you as, when and if the reserve list moves up.

Nikko · July 2017

To me, it sounds like a great way to utilise the two rooms. If the second room is going to be mainly used for practice, set up, etc as you say, would it be a good idea for people who have tiny practice amps like THR's or Blackstar flys or similar to bring them along to sit in that room so that the main amps can be left in the main room? I appreciate this means even more gear about the place, so if it is a bad idea I'm happy to be shot down

Just a thought on a quiet Sunday.

Alnico · July 2017

Nikko said:

To me, it sounds like a great way to utilise the two rooms. If the second room is going to be mainly used for practice, set up, etc as you say, would it be a good idea for people who have tiny practice amps like THR's or Blackstar flys or similar to bring them along to sit in that room so that the main amps can be left in the main room? I appreciate this means even more gear about the place, so if it is a bad idea I'm happy to be shot down

Just a thought on a quiet Sunday.

If that happens I'm happy to bring my Marshall CODE 25.

Nikko · July 2017

I was in my local guitar shop yesterday picking up some strings and a new lead, and I had a look at one of those. Didn't realise how dinky they were, but bloody loud by all accounts.

TTony · July 2017

Alnico said:
If that happens I'm happy to bring my Marshall CODE 25.

I think you should bring it anyway @Alnico, mainly because I fancy having a look & listen.

Vinylfan · July 2017

I have a THR that I'm happy to bring if needed.

Alnico · July 2017

TTony said:

Alnico said:
If that happens I'm happy to bring my Marshall CODE 25.

I think you should bring it anyway @Alnico, mainly because I fancy having a look & listen.

Consider it done.
It gets really interesting balancing effects from the boss GT100 into the Marshall.
No problem.
If someone brings a CODE 50 it would make for a great comparison at volume too.
There is a small chance I might have the second CODE 25 by then and running 2 in stereo so I will really want to hear that at volume and then even more so against a 50W.
Anyone who's coming got a CODE 50?

darthed1981 · July 2017

Alnico said:

Nikko said:

To me, it sounds like a great way to utilise the two rooms. If the second room is going to be mainly used for practice, set up, etc as you say, would it be a good idea for people who have tiny practice amps like THR's or Blackstar flys or similar to bring them along to sit in that room so that the main amps can be left in the main room? I appreciate this means even more gear about the place, so if it is a bad idea I'm happy to be shot down

Just a thought on a quiet Sunday.

If that happens I'm happy to bring my Marshall CODE 25.

I've got a katana 50, Blackstar Core 10 and 20 and a Fly 3 can bring various combinations of the above though probably not all!

Flink_Poyd · July 2017

TTony said:

Alnico said:
If that happens I'm happy to bring my Marshall CODE 25.

I think you should bring it anyway @Alnico, mainly because I fancy having a look & listen.

I'll second that. I'm either going Code or Katana. I'll pop my Blackstar in the boot for a practice amp as well

Alnico · July 2017

So.....
A home modelling amp shootout then?

Nice one guys.
If we can film that with decent audio that will make an excellent YT video for tFB ?
@strumjoughlamps. ....can that be done, decent audio and video synced up?
@digitalscream ?
I think you two know something about this don't you ?

I can bring some decent backing tracks and play from my laptop into PA so we can get a good idea of sounds in a mix etc.

darthed1981 · July 2017

Alnico said:

So.....
A home modelling amp shootout then?

Nice one guys.
If we can film that with decent audio that will make an excellent YT video for tFB ?
@strumjoughlamps. ....can that be done, decent audio and video synced up?
@digitalscream ?
I think you two know something about this don't you ?

I can bring some decent backing tracks and play from my laptop into PA so we can get a good idea of sounds in a mix etc.

Sounds a great idea - does anyone who is coming have one of the new (or old) Fender Mustangs?

I guess there are also the Vox Valvetronix jobbies?

digitalscream · July 2017

@Alnico - I don't know much about shooting videos, but I can probably help with editing if necessary.

If we're doing a home modelling amp shootout, I could bring my Jet City JCA50H along - a comparison with one of the cheapest of (practical) valve amps might prove enlightening...? Unfortunately, the input jack of my JCA22H is borked, so it can't be the *absolute* cheapest in the range.

Alnico · July 2017

digitalscream said:

@Alnico - I don't know much about shooting videos, but I can probably help with editing if necessary.

If we're doing a home modelling amp shootout, I could bring my Jet City JCA50H along - a comparison with one of the cheapest of (practical) valve amps might prove enlightening...? Unfortunately, the input jack of my JCA22H is borked, so it can't be the *absolute* cheapest in the range.

Cool,

It's the audio that's the issue.
Shooting a nice quality video isn't difficult it's getting good audio to sync up with it.
Recording on mobile phones is a waste of time really but it's all stuff I don't know a lot about..............except not to do it on a phone.

Your editing skills will be VERY gratefully received though!

Anyone know about this enough to give some practical advice so we can shoot maybe 10 - 20 minutes of an amp shootout with audio worth listening to?

strumjoughlamps · July 2017

no problem at all syncing up audio to video, tis dead easy if you get someone to do a visual and audible clap, or have the drummer hit the snare before you start.

Flink_Poyd · July 2017

strumjoughlamps said:

no problem at all syncing up audio to video, tis dead easy if you get someone to do a visual and audible clap, or have the drummer hit the snare before you start.

Hence the Clapperboard.

Anybody got one?

strumjoughlamps · July 2017

Flink_Poyd said:

strumjoughlamps said:

no problem at all syncing up audio to video, tis dead easy if you get someone to do a visual and audible clap, or have the drummer hit the snare before you start.

Hence the Clapperboard.

Anybody got one?

I have, won't need to bring it tho

Bridgehouse · July 2017

Actually iPhone 7 audio quality is excellent. The zoom recorders are also excellent - video and audio - I think @horse has one I'm sure he would bring if asked..

Alnico · July 2017

strumjoughlamps said:

no problem at all syncing up audio to video, tis dead easy if you get someone to do a visual and audible clap, or have the drummer hit the snare before you start.

What's the best way to record the audio then?
Am I right thinking we can tap a feed off the PA with a mic and mic up each amp properly?
I'll have my laptop and the full version of Reaper with me?
I can't use it yet, I just got it and I'm still a clueless newbie with Reaper but if you can drive it @digitalscream then go for it. I can learn as you do it maybe?
Would that work? Hook my Laptop up into the PA in the small room?

Alnico · July 2017

Bridgehouse said:

Actually iPhone 7 audio quality is excellent. The zoom recorders are also excellent - video and audio - I think @horse has one I'm sure he would bring if asked..

I'll just play the guitar then.

digitalscream · July 2017

Alnico said:

strumjoughlamps said:

no problem at all syncing up audio to video, tis dead easy if you get someone to do a visual and audible clap, or have the drummer hit the snare before you start.

What's the best way to record the audio then?
Am I right thinking we can tap a feed off the PA with a mic and mic up each amp properly?
I'll have my laptop and the full version of Reaper with me?
I can't use it yet, I just got it and I'm still a clueless newbie with Reaper but if you can drive it @digitalscream then go for it. I can learn as you do it maybe?
Would that work? Hook my Laptop up into the PA in the small room?

Nah, forget the PA. I'll bring my laptop, an audio interface and some mics.

Alnico · July 2017

digitalscream said:

Alnico said:

strumjoughlamps said:

no problem at all syncing up audio to video, tis dead easy if you get someone to do a visual and audible clap, or have the drummer hit the snare before you start.

What's the best way to record the audio then?
Am I right thinking we can tap a feed off the PA with a mic and mic up each amp properly?
I'll have my laptop and the full version of Reaper with me?
I can't use it yet, I just got it and I'm still a clueless newbie with Reaper but if you can drive it @digitalscream then go for it. I can learn as you do it maybe?
Would that work? Hook my Laptop up into the PA in the small room?

Nah, forget the PA. I'll bring my laptop, an audio interface and some mics.

Cool,

I shouldn't get involved really I haven't got a clue about this.
Thanks Lee.

Legionreturns · July 2017

darthed1981 said:

Alnico said:

Nikko said:

To me, it sounds like a great way to utilise the two rooms. If the second room is going to be mainly used for practice, set up, etc as you say, would it be a good idea for people who have tiny practice amps like THR's or Blackstar flys or similar to bring them along to sit in that room so that the main amps can be left in the main room? I appreciate this means even more gear about the place, so if it is a bad idea I'm happy to be shot down

Just a thought on a quiet Sunday.

If that happens I'm happy to bring my Marshall CODE 25.

I've got a katana 50, Blackstar Core 10 and 20 and a Fly 3 can bring various combinations of the above though probably not all!

I'm bringing a katana 100 + foot controller if that helps make your mind up

TTBZ · July 2017

With Premiere CC you don't even need a proper sync point (though it doesn't hurt) - just drag all your clips into the sequence, right click, synchronise, by audio. Unlink and delete all your awful camera audio. Done. Clapperboard is a bit more foolproof but cant say I've ever had any issues doing it the auto way so long as the camera audio isn't distorted. Make sure all the cameras are recording the same frame rate and the daw project/exported wav file is all 48kHz 16 bit to help eliminate things drifting out etc.

I'd like to come to this meet but don't think I'd be allowed out to "waste" a whole day mucking around with guitars

could help out with any editing though.

darthed1981 · July 2017

TTBZ said:
I'd like to come to this meet but don't think I'd be allowed out to "waste" a whole day mucking around with guitars
could help out with any editing though.

If a space opens up for you, we could all help you work out a rock solid set of excuses and fabrications.

Alnico · July 2017

darthed1981 said:

TTBZ said:
I'd like to come to this meet but don't think I'd be allowed out to "waste" a whole day mucking around with guitars
could help out with any editing though.
If a space opens up for you, we could all help you work out a rock solid set of excuses and fabrications.

Wait........
You work for Marshall and you need help with Excuses?

NOT meant as anything more than Banter.

Would you like me to put you on the reserve list while you deal with whatever the obstruction is?

Modellista · July 2017

Alnico said:

strumjoughlamps said:

no problem at all syncing up audio to video, tis dead easy if you get someone to do a visual and audible clap, or have the drummer hit the snare before you start.

What's the best way to record the audio then?
Am I right thinking we can tap a feed off the PA with a mic and mic up each amp properly?
I'll have my laptop and the full version of Reaper with me?
I can't use it yet, I just got it and I'm still a clueless newbie with Reaper but if you can drive it @digitalscream then go for it. I can learn as you do it maybe?
Would that work? Hook my Laptop up into the PA in the small room?

it is possible do get a decent result out of on-camera mics, depending on what camera you're using. I use Panasonics, particularly the G6, and the on-board mics are surprisingly good and can handle quite high SPLs. Of course close-miking has its benefits, but there is something to be said for getting a decent room sound - there's more to the sound of an amp, for comparison purposes at any rate, than just the sound of the close-miked speaker. Of course it's definitely worthwhile getting a decent close-miked recording, but if a decent camera is used for the video the sound quality should be quite decent, and of course available immediately.

Legionreturns · July 2017

I've had decent results (suitable for clips and capturing the atmosphere of the room) using my blue snowball ice in the middle of the room at my local studio. Picks up all the instruments and vocals if you bias it slightly closer to the vocal monitors. It can go straight into reaper but obviously that will be single track. It's not going to be studio quality but it will sound ok. Better than a phone mic.

digitalscream · July 2017

modellista said:

Alnico said:

strumjoughlamps said:

no problem at all syncing up audio to video, tis dead easy if you get someone to do a visual and audible clap, or have the drummer hit the snare before you start.

What's the best way to record the audio then?
Am I right thinking we can tap a feed off the PA with a mic and mic up each amp properly?
I'll have my laptop and the full version of Reaper with me?
I can't use it yet, I just got it and I'm still a clueless newbie with Reaper but if you can drive it @digitalscream then go for it. I can learn as you do it maybe?
Would that work? Hook my Laptop up into the PA in the small room?

it is possible do get a decent result out of on-camera mics, depending on what camera you're using. I use Panasonics, particularly the G6, and the on-board mics are surprisingly good and can handle quite high SPLs. Of course close-miking has its benefits, but there is something to be said for getting a decent room sound - there's more to the sound of an amp, for comparison purposes at any rate, than just the sound of the close-miked speaker. Of course it's definitely worthwhile getting a decent close-miked recording, but if a decent camera is used for the video the sound quality should be quite decent, and of course available immediately.

Yeah, my idea would be to use both room and close mics, to get a good balance and representation of what they actually sounded like (neither room nor close mics actually produce a result that's accurate on their own, in my experience).

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