Plugin Deals and Discussion Thread

Cirrus · September 2017

Hey, only just saw this! No, never. I tend to stack my own voice for harmonies and as such I'm usually tight enough for my needs. And my wife's in the CBSO Chorus so I like to affect an air of expertise doing this sort of thing in the old school way.

Anyways, reason I'm here is that Waves API2500 is $29 today - cheapest I've ever seen it. When I get home tonight I'm going to download the demo and see how much I like and/ or need it. Thing is I only got IK's Precision Bus Compressor a few weeks ago. Do I need another? (don't answer that...)

guitarfishbay · September 2017

Cirrus said:

Hey, only just saw this! No, never. I tend to stack my own voice for harmonies and as such I'm usually tight enough for my needs. And my wife's in the CBSO Chorus so I like to affect an air of expertise doing this sort of thing in the old school way.

Anyways, reason I'm here is that Waves API2500 is $29 today - cheapest I've ever seen it. When I get home tonight I'm going to download the demo and see how much I like and/ or need it. Thing is I only got IK's Precision Bus Compressor a few weeks ago. Do I need another? (don't answer that...)

I'll tag you next time then @Cirrus ;

I have the API comp - it's nice. If you like it when you demo it send me a message.

That's really cool. I do think natural tight sounds awesome but there's a certain aesthetic that's extremely hard to get with regular tracking tightness, especially with lining up plosives and esses. If you want it to sound like a big extension of the same voice, rather than a choir/chorus then vocalign is really cool. So with the way I use it - any gang vocal type stuff or stuff that's supposed to sound big, won't use it, too tight can sound smaller. Stuff that's supposed to be very tight, it honestly takes about 10 seconds to use it via ARA and it'll turn a good take into a perfectly aligned take if you want, there are diffferent algos for how tight you use it

Cirrus · September 2017

To be honest, it does sound like a cool tool - especially for a voice like mine where extra thickness would be no bad thing - it's a bit more David Byrne/ Wayne Coyne than I'd like to admit.

guitarfishbay · September 2017

Cirrus said:

To be honest, it does sound like a cool tool - especially for a voice like mine where extra thickness would be no bad thing - it's a bit more David Byrne/ Wayne Coyne than I'd like to admit.

I actually never double mains - if you did Revoice would be an awesome way to go. That can transfer pitch as well as timing, again on a sliding scale (with much more fine control over this than vocalign). There's a demo of it, it's not cheap, but they do 30% off sales every now and then or you can rent to own via their website I think (works out more expensive, but more flexible).

I almost always double harmonies though, and fairly often have two harmonies doubled, so that's 5 vocals that need to be to a certain level of tightness. The lower tightness options sound pretty natural but modern, if that makes any sense at all. And you can pretty much hard align it if you want, but if it wasn't fairly tight to begin with it might not survive it so well...

You can't polish a turd unfortunately, no amount of plugins will save my boring tone. I thought your voice sounded pretty good on the song you posted a while back

Cirrus · September 2017

Ahh, waves online installer. Downloading 32 processes in parallel = hardly downloading at all.

duotone · January 2018

PolarityMan said:

For reference I jsut finished some drum editing and posted up the results so the guys could look for glitches and the drummer said "fantastic thats my best ever performance".

There are 1728 drum edits that I made by hand in that track

I'm sure it will come out after a few beers!

guitarfishbay · July 2018

octatonic said:

guitarfishbay said:

I haven't, I assume I should?

What they are doing is really interesting, which is to model the nonlinear characteristics of individual channels in a specific console. When you pull up, say, 40 instances of the G channel plugin they will all have slight, imperceptible differences between them, much like an actual console (if you think about how individual components to a channel change over time).

It is a really novel approach and I believe it works.

Well now I too believe it works.

I picked up Console E in the recent sale, and must say I think it sounds fantastic. Extra interesting is being able to have a stereo channel be made up of two different channels, or to be able to chose to have them match... that's quite a nice touch.

guitarfishbay · July 2018

Also there's an upcoming official SSL Brainworx plugin, doesn't seem that much info on it yet but it was seen on a livestream of a mix recently and Dirk confirmed it to be real in the Plugin Alliance Facebook group.

duotone · July 2018

guitarfishbay said:

Also there's an upcoming official SSL Brainworx plugin, doesn't seem that much info on it yet but it was seen on a livestream of a mix recently and Dirk confirmed it to be real in the Plugin Alliance Facebook group.

Sounds interesting @guitarfishbay is that livestream available to watch on YouTube?

guitarfishbay · July 2018

duotone said:

guitarfishbay said:

Also there's an upcoming official SSL Brainworx plugin, doesn't seem that much info on it yet but it was seen on a livestream of a mix recently and Dirk confirmed it to be real in the Plugin Alliance Facebook group.

Sounds interesting @guitarfishbay is that livestream available to watch on YouTube?

No - the livestream I saw was the Jens Bogren Live mix of Opeth. It’s for members of Nail The Mix so I can’t share it.

A public beta of the plugin is due on Monday.

https://www.facebook.com/brainworx/videos/2263590586999523/

duotone · July 2018

Cheers!

duotone · July 2018

@guitarfishbay have you had a chance to mess around with it yet?

https://www.brainworx.audio/products/brainworx/bx-console-ssl-4000-e.html

guitarfishbay · July 2018

Yeah. It takes a little more CPU than the Waves one but it does some pretty awesome stuff and it’s still reasonable on CPU.

Using a stereo instance you can run both sides the same or run different channels which will give a slightly wider sound.

I found on busses that would be mono information for me (eg bass bus) I prefer to run both sides the same, just because I wouldn’t want uneven low end boosts/cuts happening there. But sticking it on a guitarist a vocal bus can get some great results especially when you’re adding top end.

You can randomise all channels on all instances from within another plugin. So if you have a lot of instances you can try different channels quickly across the whole mix.

The saturation is quite good too. Switchable EQ revisions is another nice touch.

Its definitely worth a demo. I still like the Waves one but the BX console is more versatile.

I bought it.

colourofsound · July 2018

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Jonathanthomas83 · July 2018

Great thread, was kind of hoping we'd get something like this...subscribed! :-)

EDIT: Holding out to hear news of $49 sale on Echoboy at some point...it's at $99 at the moment.

Heartfeltdawn · July 2018

Jonathanthomas83 said:

Great thread, was kind of hoping we'd get something like this...subscribed! :-)

EDIT: Holding out to hear news of $49 sale on Echoboy at some point...it's at $99 at the moment.

$49 Echoboy is pretty rare. You might want to join KVR and pop this guy a PM...

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=507812&p=7119368&hilit=echoboy#p7119368

I'm a-waitin' for the Liquidsonics sale. $20 off Seventh Heaven would do me nicely.

https://www.liquidsonics.com/software/seventh-heaven/

octatonic · July 2018

I paid $249 down from $349 for Echoboy the day it was released, if that makes you feel any better.

Jonathanthomas83 · July 2018

Heartfeltdawn said:

Jonathanthomas83 said:

Great thread, was kind of hoping we'd get something like this...subscribed! :-)

EDIT: Holding out to hear news of $49 sale on Echoboy at some point...it's at $99 at the moment.

$49 Echoboy is pretty rare. You might want to join KVR and pop this guy a PM...

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=507812&p=7119368&hilit=echoboy#p7119368

I'm a-waitin' for the Liquidsonics sale. $20 off Seventh Heaven would do me nicely.

https://www.liquidsonics.com/software/seventh-heaven/

I'm in no rush, was $49 a couple of months ago. Thanks for the link, how would that work, would he be able to transfer it directly to my Soundtoys account?

octatonic said:

I paid $249 down from $349 for Echoboy the day it was released, if that makes you feel any better.

Ouch! :-(

domforr · July 2018

This seems to have had good reviews and for £1 it's not much of a punt:): https://www.pluginboutique.com/product/2-Effects/10-Delay/4384-STA-Delay

guitarfishbay · July 2018

The best thing to do with Sound Toys is buy their super cheap deals, pick up the free plugs, and upgrade to the full bundle on Black Friday. The more plugs you have the cheaper the upgrade, even the free ones count IIRC

duotone · July 2018

https://www.waves.com/plugins/abbey-road-chambers?utm_source=wnletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=body-gui&utm_campaign=abbey-road-chambers-release

duotone · July 2018

Heartfeltdawn said:

I'm a-waitin' for the Liquidsonics sale. $20 off Seventh Heaven would do me nicely.

https://www.liquidsonics.com/software/seventh-heaven/

Sounds really good

Heartfeltdawn · July 2018

It is. I sold my Exponential and Valhalla reverbs for SH Pro. Actually was more than I need as I use Reverberate for more experimental reverb sounds, so a combo of that and the smaller Seventh Heaven is enough for me. Sale time will be soon...

Heartfeltdawn · July 2018

guitarfishbay said:

The best thing to do with Sound Toys is buy their super cheap deals, pick up the free plugs, and upgrade to the full bundle on Black Friday. The more plugs you have the cheaper the upgrade, even the free ones count IIRC

Aye. So it's worth picking up Echoboy Jr now and then waiting for Black Friday.

@Jonathanthomas83 yep. If you PM him, say you want it, pay $50 via Paypal (go normal for safety), then it will be yours. As iLok is involved, it'll be a case of transferring the licence from his iLok account to yours, and that will trigger a licence change within the Soundtoys camps accordingly.

I've bought and sold loads on KVR. If you act sensible with payments, you'll be fine. I bought Ableton Live 9 there last week for a shade over £100. Chap was brilliant, said he'd give me his Ableton account so it'd be a quick change rather than a transfer process. Asked me for a suitable email to change the account to, set it up with a temp password, I logged it and changed the password and took over the account, paid him after I'd done it. Can't go wrong with that.

Heartfeltdawn · July 2018

Oh my. This intrigues me greatly.

https://puremagnetik.com/products/granule-grain-delay-granular-plugin-particle-spectral

Cirrus · July 2018

That Waves Abbey Road Chambers might be interesting - I think the Plate is the best vst plate reverb I've used. Feels like sending signal to a real sheet of metal.

Jonathanthomas83 · July 2018

Mercurial Audio just emailed me about a 33% sale on the U530 Engl plugin.

Fretwired · July 2018

Want a top notch reverb for £8? Look no further .. it is a lovely plugin .. good for soundscapes and the like ..

https://www.pluginboutique.com/products/3441?utm_source=PIB-Newsletter-Polaris-First-Send&utm_campaign=PIB-Polaris-First+Send&utm_source=emailCampaign&utm_content=&utm_medium=email

guitarfishbay · July 2018

Jonathanthomas83 said:

Mercurial Audio just emailed me about a 33% sale on the U530 Engl plugin.

Haven’t tried it but I like their Spark plugin, the 800 is cool. I don’t own it but I’d be interested in buying it next time it is on sale

duotone · July 2018

25% off coupon code for use on Waves.com this weekend.

Here's your code if you're interested: JULY25

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