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Johnny Squire... and my secret confession.
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Hi All,
A bit of chat in the Noel G on TPS made me think of the indie rock legend that is John Squire and his career.
My dirty secret is... I enjoy the Seahorses album more than the Stone Roses debut...
Don't get me wrong, the place in the canon of SR compared to Do It Yourself is unquestionable, but something about the way JS lets himself go on the Seahorses album makes it something of a lost masterpiece for me.
Of course he did two solo albums as well I'm guilty of listening to but never really devoting much time to.
What think ye all to the great man?
The Seahorses...
Roses masterpiece...
and of course, showing what can be done with just the Am pentatonic...
We have to be so very careful, what we believe in...
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To use the word ‘masterpiece’ in the context of the Seahorses album, though? Absolutely not. One of the biggest anticlimaxes in Indie history, more like.
That being said I know JS doesn't think the guitar sounds good enough, he didn't like the pickups I think and he was slightly out of tune (according to him) on I am the resurrection which remains probably my favourite piece of guitar playing ever (possibly along with Tunnel of Love by dire straits).
I saw the seahorses in Portsmouth and he was messing about playing the riff to waterfall between songs and the crowd went nuts, the rest of the band didn't look very amused and I suspected they wouldn't be together long.
That album for me is WTS(MG) by Oasis. There are sort of a handful of songs that sort of together turned me on to rock music in 1996 and I fell down the rabbit hole from there!
I meant more the stuff about crashing,burning,frying and melting... but... yeah...
Force of habit.
Still, that Billy Squier eh? Whatever happened to him?
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@mrkb - well that should stimulate a bit of discussion
I like them both, but for different reasons.
I would like to hear the first album with a different production….I know it would probably lose as much as it would gain, but still.
For me the Roses as a band are a little overrated but the individual musicians, quite underrated, Squire and Reni in particular.
DIY is a great record that suffered not being a Stone Roses record. At the time there was SO much hype on it. I was at their (The Seahorses) second gig in a small club in Greenock (nr Glasgow, West of Scotland) and saw a big guitar hero of mine play his 3 pickup Custom about 10ft away. A huge impression left, plus they kicked the arse right out of Love Is The Law and no one knew it!
I think in terms of layering and overall work the first album is probably up there. Not too little, not too much. Second Coming was the geetar album though and for me untouchable even if it wasn't for the baggy jeans majority. Daybreak is their best for me - that has so much time and groove other acts in that genre could never get in a million years.
In terms of albums, always thought they really stood at 4 albums but only 2 being released. There should have been one before the first (aka Garage Flowers), the official first, then an album in between that and The SC (stuff along the lines of Somethings Burning) then The SC.
Don't be sad it's over, be grateful it ever happened at all eh?
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Im a guitarist not a druggie so first album is too slow - "sugar spun sister" and "shoot you down", - slow and boring, "Dont stop" - play the last song backward cop out, "Elizabeth my dear" - crap filler.
Where as second album has great melodic texture and awesome guitar riffs.
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Stone Roses is superior to me (no drugs, a few fruit ciders) but Second Coming sure has its moments.