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But to use WW2 as the example... when Germany rampaged across Europe they were stopped, by force.
When the Brits kept trying to take Ireland they were met by Irishmen who stood up for themselves.
My question to you is - can a nation not defend itself against an invading force?
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An interesting historical fact is that once Landed at Hastings Harold sent messenger envoys to William asking if he wouldn't mind staying put and waiting for him to come and join battle as he was busy in the North of England quelling a Viking rebellion under Tostig .William was a gent and duly obliged whilst his troops ran around for 4 months pillaging Sussex.
The biggest threat to William was that on the very same day he landed at Hastings Harald Hadrada ,a Dane Viking ,landed in Kent with a force ready to March on England and Harold Godwinson .Both Harold and William pointed out that it was a tad inconvenient and would he mind awfully postponing ;they asked him to leave and come back for another attempt some time in the not too distant future -and he obliged !
THE POINT OF THE STORY AND RELEVANCE TO THE MCGUINNESS ISSUE IS THAT HISTORY AND POLITICS ARE NOT CLEAR CUT
NOR HOW WE ARE TAUGHT AT SCHOOL;
MANDELA, ARAFAT,BEGIN,TOPRAK,TITO,ASSAD, etc all TERRORISTS /FREEDOM-FIGHTERS depending on your perspective but all Poachers turned Gamekeepers and legitimised.
Most of the British Empire was "captured"initially by Pirates/Privateers inc Raleigh and Drake who were able to buy favour with respective royalty by cherry picking the spoils and giving the rump to the Empire.Like Conquistadores they were also "terrorists "
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who's side R U on ?
Today's Daily Mail - Irish edition v UK edition pic.twitter.com/c72MiwOdP4
An army from a country a couple of hundred of miles away starts murdering Irish men, women and children for resisting, for speaking their own language, for playing their own sports, for having their own way of life.
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"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Just because I don't care, doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson
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yeah - Normandy = Norse
DNA holds the secrets
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Glad that's cleared up now.
The UK government made it quite clear they, by their actions, that they wanted control of a country that wasn't theirs. Did you expect the Irish to fight back with their feather dusters?
Im guessing you live in England, so you probably don't know any of what has actually happened here. I suggest you read some history about Ireland. You think it was harsh that the IRA targeted destinations in England? Of course it was and I'm not for one moment agreeing with any of the violence at all. But I think only one person has actually acknowledged, in this thread, how vile the Brits have been over the last 150 years towards the Irish.
Problem is, the Irish are close and they hit back. I think you should read back through the thread to see some of the history.
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They weren't. Terrorism cannot be justified.
Im also not religious... get that! So, I'm Scottish/British living in Northern Ireland and I'm not religious. Wow, yes I'm very much one sided (rolls eyes).
The thing is, there are two sides to this. And if you didn't care you wouldn't be commenting. I'm 33, and I have an interest in how the land we live in and on came to be. If that's making me sound one sided because you think I'm giving the Brits a hard time you really need to look at my comments again.
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Indeed, no terrorism can be justified, by either the Irish or the English, war by its very nature is terrorism. However we can explain why such acts happened, this isn't justifying anything , simply stating the facts around such acts and why they took place.
You appear to think that if England goes to war for some reason its absurd to think the country you go to war with wont fight back.
I've answered this point, twice. You sound like a broken record. Please read the thread again ( I know you won't because you'll see me renounce violence).
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Nil Satis Nisi Optimum
At lease I can leave with the knowledge that I have a deeper understanding of the history of the country. It's hard to talk to people who just reply with "yeah but they're all terrorists"....
Yawn...
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@robgilmo, I think referring to it as a war is still utterly wrong on every count though.