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Having once seen a racing TZ350 slide down the road and then - after sliding for about 50 yards - still have enough momentum after it hit a bank to get flipped over the top of the telegraph wires back in the 80s, you get a sense of how difficult it is to protect all of the spectators.
TBH much and all as I love the sport (my grandfather and his brothers were always involved), the need to move spectators further and further away from the action has rendered it pretty poor as a a viewing spectacle. The best place to watch the racing was either out on the track, or on TV.
I'll miss it though - a true part of the Ulster heritage which crossed all the tribal boundaries.
It's also noticeable - and nice - how deep rooted the associations with motorbike-racing are up there. People still talk about the days Hailwood and Agostini used to thrash it out round Dundrod at 'The Ulster' (Grand Prix). Occasionally even you'll still hear one of the old fellas make a quip like 'G'wan Giacomo son' if they see or hear somebody on a bike or in a car travelling at a rate of knots
Donate and share. I have a trip booked to go over and see the Cookstown and Tandragee races, well I did. At least I still have the TT to go to in May. I'll just tour Ireland instead on the bike.
I agree with what Phillip McCallen said yesterday, maybe the punters should start paying to watch the racing, it's always been free. I wouldn't mind paying to watch if it helped secure funds to keep the racing going.
Found a nice bit of footage of the NW200 back in the day - 1958:
- even today a perfectly competent road rider on a Fireblade or similar would have a hard job matching that 65 years and lightyears of engineering later.
Of course , a good rider (not a racer ) and a superbike would be hugely different .
Names like Mike Hailwood and Sammy Miller .......they were great riders ...........and ,of course, Agostini
The equipment has improved dramatically, but there's still always a heck of a difference between the quick men and the not-quite-so-quick ones
The knee-down technique of today has very little to do with the corner angle and agility .....it's all about the vast pick-up upon accelerating out of the corner and counterbalancing the potential hi-side as the back wheel spins and bites again
......a bit like trapezing out on a racing dinghy when a sail is fully billowed.
Fantastic photo
When I used to race ( badly ) I don 't think I ever really touched my knee down ....sometimes I would just graze the ground by a millimetre on a slow tight corner but more often than not it would be the footpegs getting shaved down before my knee
There's a few interesting vids on YouTube showing how the various approaches to leaning off have progressed and evolved over the years. Roberts started the whole knee down thing (at least according to his autobiography), but kept his head and shoulders largely centred on the bike, later riders like Freddie Spencer began to shift the torso much more to the inside, but kept his head centred, or even slightly to the opposite side of the centre line, while modern riders seem to focus on getting both the head and torso as far off the bike to the inside as is physically possible.
Have to say even with the little track riding I've done, I find just sliding your @rse across a little, but moving your head and shoulders low and to the inside so that you feel a bit like a side-car passenger hanging off makes the bike feel more stable and secure in a bend. Ironic really that separating yourself from the thing a little makes you feel much more in control of it. Still struggling to get my head round that one
It's actually not that hard to do and you don't need loads of speed /gyroscopic force
......talking about Marquez......the bit I find much harder is being able to back the bike into a bend and ride that rear wheel drift
-he's a master of that . I've tried a bit but my balls shrivel up long before the back really starts to slide because you do need speed and G force ......at least enough for the momentum to override the split second where the rear wheel bites and stops sliding but without hi-siding you.I actually did it about a month ago unintentionally at fairly moderate speed by hitting some fucker's diesel spill......I was going about 50/60mph and was scared shitless for a few split seconds ......how somebody can do that at 100mph on purpose with a bike 3 inches in front and another 2 inches to the left is beyond me .It's like a high speed version of the standing up figure of 8 donut (which I can't do either .........I'll stick to a few 50m wheelies !
Very difficult to try to learn with grippy tyres on the road because the transition from grip to no grip and then back to grip when the tyre slows is so sudden - and with the kind of speeds / bike involved, the risks are kinda on the high side (no pun intended..). On a loose surface it's a lot easier to get the tyre sliding with relatively little power, and everything happens progressively and at a lot lower speed. It's pretty intuitive too - once the rear end starts to come round, your natural instinct is to steer into it, and with even a small amount of practice you can get fairly comfortable sliding and crossed up, honestly.
Myself, the brother and his young fellow used to go to one of the indoor eMX tracks in the North. 3 x 10 minute on / 10 minute rest sessions on KTM electric motoX bikes for not a huge amount of money - 30 euros ish a head. It's a flippin' hoot - great way to practice sliding a bike about (you have to steer them from the rear, or use the berms to turn anyway quickly) - let your inner hooligan loose and scare yourself witless
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2839/12697807184_a937a6b7b6_k_d.jpg
This was the first of about four offs late last Tuesday afternoon, we were falling over like dominos. One guy, who fell off twice, hurt himself quite badly, but didn't know until he got home a couple of days later and went to A&E, where he was diagnosed with four broken ribs and a broken ankle!
Anyway, have a larf at my expense.
I meant April. ~ Simon Weir
Bit of trading feedback here.
Guy behind you was observing well though
I've got my bike booked it to get checked - one of the other guys on the tour reckons it's unrideable due to the incredibly twitchy throttle response. In his words, "it's a total pig to ride", and he wonders how on earth I stayed upright for as long as I did.
Yep, the weather changed rapidly, never seen anything like it - that was just the start, it got much worse after that. We ended up abandoning the bikes in a small village and taking a taxi to the hotel!
I meant April. ~ Simon Weir
Bit of trading feedback here.
Eqd Speaker Cranker clone
Monte Allums TR-2 Plus mod kit
Trading feedback: http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/60602/
Eqd Speaker Cranker clone
Monte Allums TR-2 Plus mod kit
Trading feedback: http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/60602/
Browsers are a pain in the arse sometimes...
Glad to see the weather's picked up a bit for biking again too.
Been working on the newly acquired FXR for about the last month. Got stuck into the wiring job from hell when I went to replace the bars and switchgear, and discovered 30 years worth of horrible bodging in the headlamp shell. Anyways, all sorted (mostly) now:
Need to reroute or replace the twin throttle cable, and also tidy up the brake-hose.
Not sure if I posted any pics before, but this is it with the new bars, and the mag wheels/disks on.
First run out with everything back together this morning. Shakedown run went ok, so in two minds now whether to carry on and sort out the shocks (it needs longer ones to sort the abysmal ground clearance, and improve the stance) and also get rid of that awful Roy Rogers studded seat-pad for something less carnival looking.
Either that, or might be wiser to just stall and ride the flipping' thing for a while first
Liking the bars, the saddle doesn't have fringes & concho's, so I'd let it ride for a while until it tell's you what you need to do.
Ground clearance might be 'characterful' for a while