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  • SporkySporky Frets: 23802
    As I recall from an article years ago (so my apologies for anything I've misremembered), Ken's aim was to replicate medieval lutes, which typically had a veneer of ebony over a softer wood core. Most of the strength is in the carbon, the wood is almost a mould/former for the CF. 
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  • OffsetOffset Frets: 9212
    Sporky said:
    The US ones were a carbon veneer/skin over wood - possibly poplar but I'm not certain of that. They did have a truss rod, adjustment was on the underside of the headstock I think. 

    My US Parker Southern Nitefly has a one-piece maple neck with carbon-glass-epoxy reinforcement skin around it.  It also has a truss rod with spoke-wheel adjustment.
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  • SporkySporky Frets: 23802
    edited October 2023
    Sorry! I meant non-Nitefly, but said US. My Nitefly M had the same adjustment as your Southern.

    I've edited my post to clarify - ta. 
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  • WezVWezV Frets: 15793
    edited October 2023
    Necks without truss rods are not the same as necks without reinforcement.     There are plenty of good examples necks without truss rods that function fine because another method of reinforcement is used

    The point here is those early Fenders had no reinforcement at all - just one slab of maple, and a lot of hope. 

    It's a bad idea, although I imagine it does sound good for the short life of reliability. 

    The Fender CS's done like this are collectors pieces, not reliable instruments.

    Rick Kelly from Carmine Street Guitars does do truss rod/reinforcement free necks... but apparently they are massive to account for that, and often still have issues.  His apprentice Cindy often does use a truss rod.


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