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British electric guitar makers who make their own necks and bodies

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Are there any electric guitar makers in the UK (eg Eggle) making the whole guitar themselves - their own necks and bodies -  these days? I know pickups will most likely be out sourced. 
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  • I think Gray Guitars do 
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  • p90foolp90fool Frets: 29588
    Rob Williams Guitars. 
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  • GoldenEraGuitarsGoldenEraGuitars Frets: 8207
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    Kithara Guitars do. Chris buys his own wood stock and makes everything from scratch, absolutely superb luthier. 

    @Danielsguitars also do. Darren prefers set neck builds and everything is handmade in house, he even does his own spraying/finishing.
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  • rlwrlw Frets: 4314
    Flame Guitars
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    Trent
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  • ZenOvertoneZenOvertone Frets: 230
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    Eternal guitars in Chichester (plus Dave winds his own pickups too)
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  • BigsbyBigsby Frets: 2770
    Gordon Smith, (they make their own pickups too).
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  • PennPenn Frets: 351
    Do crimson now?
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  • Mike Smith of Southport. I reckon my next one will be one of his.
    "A city star won’t shine too far"


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  • Fishboy7Fishboy7 Frets: 1965
    I imagine most do - seeing as that's the two main parts of the actual guitar
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  • Yes I build everything from raw stock and the pickup parts come from axesrus which I then wind myself.
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  • Zero One
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  • Ancoats Guitars does as well.
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  • GoldenEraGuitarsGoldenEraGuitars Frets: 8207
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    Fishboy7 said:
    I imagine most do - seeing as that's the two main parts of the actual guitar
    Some “F type” bolt on neck “builders” will use bought in bodies and necks though, as opposed to making them themselves because it’s cheaper to do and they don’t have the facilities to manufacture a body and neck. 
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  • No-one's mentioned @FelineGuitars or @IvisonGuitars yet.
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  • CorvusCorvus Frets: 2777
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    Me. Most will.

    If a thing is cheap, best ask yourself why - like I'm just buying for three builds, the first one is well north of £800 in materials with more to go.
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  • SassafrasSassafras Frets: 30023
    Ian Elson?
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  • richardhomerrichardhomer Frets: 24339
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    Fishboy7 said:
    I imagine most do - seeing as that's the two main parts of the actual guitar
    Some “F type” bolt on neck “builders” will use bought in bodies and necks though, as opposed to making them themselves because it’s cheaper to do and they don’t have the facilities to manufacture a body and neck. 
    Sounds Very Likely…
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  • MSedgMSedg Frets: 88
    Atkin (plus pickups)
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  • WezVWezV Frets: 15793
    Fishboy7 said:
    I imagine most do - seeing as that's the two main parts of the actual guitar
    Some “F type” bolt on neck “builders” will use bought in bodies and necks though, as opposed to making them themselves because it’s cheaper to do and they don’t have the facilities to manufacture a body and neck. 
    Plus there seems to be a growing number where most of the woodwork is outsourced to someone with the appropriate machines.





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  • Penn said:
    Do crimson now?
    Yes - I had a full tour of their facilities while on a course there this week and it’s all in-house, they also offer their own pickups too that are made there.
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  • WezV said:
    Fishboy7 said:
    I imagine most do - seeing as that's the two main parts of the actual guitar
    Some “F type” bolt on neck “builders” will use bought in bodies and necks though, as opposed to making them themselves because it’s cheaper to do and they don’t have the facilities to manufacture a body and neck. 
    Plus there seems to be a growing number where most of the woodwork is outsourced to someone with the appropriate machines.





    I’m likely to go down this partial route for a couple of early steps where it doesn’t warrant the setup space & costs (e.g. thickness sanders etc.) - partly because I have other options that I can access easily nearby though! I’m also not planning to do much in the way of in-house spray finishing, though that may change - I suspect this is something that many outsource in part too, depending on finish & build requirements.
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  • WezVWezV Frets: 15793
    WezV said:
    Fishboy7 said:
    I imagine most do - seeing as that's the two main parts of the actual guitar
    Some “F type” bolt on neck “builders” will use bought in bodies and necks though, as opposed to making them themselves because it’s cheaper to do and they don’t have the facilities to manufacture a body and neck. 
    Plus there seems to be a growing number where most of the woodwork is outsourced to someone with the appropriate machines.





    I’m likely to go down this partial route for a couple of early steps where it doesn’t warrant the setup space & costs (e.g. thickness sanders etc.) - partly because I have other options that I can access easily nearby though! I’m also not planning to do much in the way of in-house spray finishing, though that may change - I suspect this is something that many outsource in part too, depending on finish & build requirements.
    You can't call yourself a luthier if you didn't chop the tree down yourself. ;)

    In all honesty, I don't think it matters if a builder does everything or not... it's the end result that matters.

    I do like to do as much as myself as possible, but I'm building one off guitars.

    I don't bother  so much when making standard Fender style stuff.  I will happily use decent parts and focus my build time on stuff that can't come off the shelf.  But then I don't do as much of that stuff these days for that reason.
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  • GoldenEraGuitarsGoldenEraGuitars Frets: 8207
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    WezV said:
    WezV said:
    Fishboy7 said:
    I imagine most do - seeing as that's the two main parts of the actual guitar
    Some “F type” bolt on neck “builders” will use bought in bodies and necks though, as opposed to making them themselves because it’s cheaper to do and they don’t have the facilities to manufacture a body and neck. 
    Plus there seems to be a growing number where most of the woodwork is outsourced to someone with the appropriate machines.





    I’m likely to go down this partial route for a couple of early steps where it doesn’t warrant the setup space & costs (e.g. thickness sanders etc.) - partly because I have other options that I can access easily nearby though! I’m also not planning to do much in the way of in-house spray finishing, though that may change - I suspect this is something that many outsource in part too, depending on finish & build requirements.
    You can't call yourself a luthier if you didn't chop the tree down yourself. ;)

    In all honesty, I don't think it matters if a builder does everything or not... it's the end result that matters.

    I do like to do as much as myself as possible, but I'm building one off guitars.

    I don't bother  so much when making standard Fender style stuff.  I will happily use decent parts and focus my build time on stuff that can't come off the shelf.  But then I don't do as much of that stuff these days for that reason.
    I would never call myself a luthier, although I do laugh at some of those who do. I get called an “artist” which I’m delighted with. Takes the pressure off and gives me that mental freedom I need. The end result is absolutely all that matters but I do wonder why some a) lie about buying parts in and b) try to use the word “luthier” as if they think they can fool their customers to believing they are one when all they do is assemble ready finished items. Of course, that raises the question “what makes a luthier” which has been covered here many times before, I’m sure :D
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 69426
    Sassafras said:
    Ian Elson?
    The perfect illustration of why making everything by hand yourself is not necessarily a good thing.

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

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  • DanielsguitarsDanielsguitars Frets: 3097
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    WezV said:
    Fishboy7 said:
    I imagine most do - seeing as that's the two main parts of the actual guitar
    Some “F type” bolt on neck “builders” will use bought in bodies and necks though, as opposed to making them themselves because it’s cheaper to do and they don’t have the facilities to manufacture a body and neck. 
    Plus there seems to be a growing number where most of the woodwork is outsourced to someone with the appropriate machines.





    I would like some transparency with what is actually made by the maker because it's not the same outsourcing and just assembling rather than going wood shopping and making from scratch, there's a time and price difference.

    I don't care who's doing what but it would be nice to know so people have an idea why hand made costs X over cheaper Y
    www.danielsguitars.co.uk
    (formerly customkits)
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  • GoldenEraGuitarsGoldenEraGuitars Frets: 8207
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    WezV said:
    Fishboy7 said:
    I imagine most do - seeing as that's the two main parts of the actual guitar
    Some “F type” bolt on neck “builders” will use bought in bodies and necks though, as opposed to making them themselves because it’s cheaper to do and they don’t have the facilities to manufacture a body and neck. 
    Plus there seems to be a growing number where most of the woodwork is outsourced to someone with the appropriate machines.





    I would like some transparency with what is actually made by the maker because it's not the same outsourcing and just assembling rather than going wood shopping and making from scratch, there's a time and price difference.

    I don't care who's doing what but it would be nice to know so people have an idea why hand made costs X over cheaper Y
    I see a lot of “handmade” nonsense getting thrown about and theres obviously something strange when a “handmade telecaster” is £1200, for example. These people/companies are either lying to their customer base or enjoy paying themselves £3.64 an hour because the materials and overheads alone wouldn’t make it feesable.
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  • SporkySporky Frets: 23802
    I suspect "handmade" includes running a pin router around a laser-cut template.

    But not a CNC machine following the same profile that was used to make the template (with the same amount of prep and finishing needed).
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  • rlwrlw Frets: 4314
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