5e3s in 2023...

mo6020 · September 2023

Modulus_Amps said:

@Neilybob ;;This is a post from 2019 talking about the same things.

https://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/166318/10w-20w-tweed-amps-lazy-j-rift/p1

I posted this, the recording was originally done by Poopot of this parish (RIP)

Modulus_Amps said:

https://soundcloud.com/user-96749354/modulus-tweed-deluxe-kit

Listen to this, one of these is a J20, the other two samples are a Modulus Deluxe kit built by a forum member here, one with 6L6's, one with 6V6's. Most importantly they are all played through the same blue alnico speaker.

Jessie builds a great sounding amp, a big part of it is the speaker and the cabinet mods, but it is out of budget, If I was looking to buy a deluxe amp pre built to a high standard, that complies with current safety standards and will have decent resell value then Rift is a good option.

All 3 of those sound mega, I think I like the 2nd one the most (sounds like it has a bit more clarity?), but to my ears there's very little difference that couldn't be tweaked out with the tone knob...

Modulus_Amps · September 2023

mo6020 said:

All 3 of those sound mega, I think I like the 2nd one the most (sounds like it has a bit more clarity?), but to my ears there's very little difference that couldn't be tweaked out with the tone knob...

IIRC the second one was the Modulus kit with 6L6's. Back then we used a bigger OT stock in the kit which was a little less compressed.

I think the point Poopot was trying to make there was its a simple circuit that with the right speaker sounds great.

Getting one with reverb and VAC controls and a brand that ensures great value when selling on is something to consider.

springhead · September 2023

VAC works very well on a 5E3 circuit. Jessie just uses the standard VVR circuit that Dana Hall first posted years ago. I built my own 5E3 after a spiritual experience with a Gartone and built VVR/VAC power reduction into it. Very handy at gigs to knock the volume back but keep the tone. Mine will be doing two this weekend.

dazzajl · September 2023

TheMarlin said:

Vyse and Rift. Best I’ve ever heard

From Soho down to Brighton, I must have played them all…

And it’s a Rift. Hands down, no question, by a country mile. I don’t know what pixie dust Chris uses but no one else has it.

MikeP · September 2023

That video of the early gold top is a great playing and tone but I'm not mad for the gnarly overdrive you get from p90s.

mattacjones · September 2023

I've had several 5e3's (including the tweedyluxe) and also have a Imperial MK2. I reckon tonally the drive channel is pretty close. I've moved on a vyse and a modulus as always felt the tone king had it covered plus it does a lot more.

DougCoda · September 2023

Lazy J and Victoria for me…I play through a 20112 and its awesome but am seriously considering a J10 when we get some more in, they’re not quite the same to my ears so it’s a tricky choice.
Shameless plug time, we’ll be stocking Victoria amps from November..

Whitecat · September 2023

DougCoda said:

Lazy J and Victoria for me…I play through a 20112 and its awesome but am seriously considering a J10 when we get some more in, they’re not quite the same to my ears so it’s a tricky choice.
Shameless plug time, we’ll be stocking Victoria amps from November..

Oh that is excellent news…!!

musteatbrain · September 2023

https://ampguitars.com/product/martamp-tweed-deluxe/

This early MJW is a good amp that’s based off a 5E3

If I remember rightly it’s a tweed deluxe circuit but with a 6L6 power stage.

I had it on loan for a while many years ago.

It was a great thing but way too loud for the house I had at the time.

I was in amp today and noticed they had it.

It had an old re-reconed 55hz speaker in when I had it which I loved. I think it still has it

pt22 · September 2023

I just realised that Rift Amplification has a 2 day course to build one of these yourself. It’s quite decent value in my eyes.

markj · September 2023

RickLucas said:

Gartone:
https://youtu.be/FAR-VMXnxLs?si=L2w3d8mVpC2A0HTm

Absolutely cracking amp, it’s the best I’ve ever owned by miles.

koss59 · September 2023

I’m also a recent Gartone convert.

Neilybob · September 2023

We need to have a tFB Gearfest and do a 5E3 shoot out!

john_r · September 2023

I used to own the 5e3 that @Neilybob now has. It's a bit more than a standard ceriatone! I loved that amp and tweaked it to perfection, only sold it as I also have a Rift Tweed 30 and needed the funds to buy a les paul!

BlackbirdCabs · September 2023

john_r said:

I used to own the 5e3 that @Neilybob now has. It's a bit more than a standard ceriatone! I loved that amp and tweaked it to perfection, only sold it as I also have a Rift Tweed 30 and needed the funds to buy a les paul!

I had a dream last night that I went to Malaysia specifically to chat with the guy from Ceriatone about what amp I should get.
I really need to get a life.

breezytele · September 2023

I recently acquired a new fully loaded Lazy J10LC and I absolutely love it

Dominic · September 2023

Gartone Bluesman all day long
overall....the best amp I have ever played or heard

ToneControl · September 2023

I have a preference for the 5x3 derivation (6L6 based)
The best one I tried was a double one from Wienbrock, with 4 x 6L6
He fitted switches to allow you ti scoop the mids a bit

Victoria amps are all wonderful in my experience, very cheap used prices last time I looked

scovell001 · September 2023

Hey guys, just wanted to reply - I ‘had’ a lazy j20 & sold it because it didn’t do what I wanted it to - always loved the 5e3 circuit but was always scared of an amp with no onboard reverb. Thx to this thread and rift having a limited edition run of 5e3’s, by pure coincidence a high end hand built 5e3 came up, took the chance and oh my giddy aunt!!!! This amp with just the stock as is layout, amazing !

So glad I took the plunge thx guys I’ll never be scared of an amp with no reverb again lol !

markj · September 2023

scovell001 said:

Hey guys, just wanted to reply - I ‘had’ a lazy j20 & sold it because it didn’t do what I wanted it to - always loved the 5e3 circuit but was always scared of an amp with no onboard reverb. Thx to this thread and rift having a limited edition run of 5e3’s, by pure coincidence a high end hand built 5e3 came up, took the chance and oh my giddy aunt!!!! This amp with just the stock as is layout, amazing !

So glad I took the plunge thx guys I’ll never be scared of an amp with no reverb again lol !

What’s the amp?

wrinkleygit · September 2023

ToneControl said:

I have a preference for the 5x3 derivation (6L6 based)
The best one I tried was a double one from Wienbrock, with 4 x 6L6
He fitted switches to allow you ti scoop the mids a bit

Victoria amps are all wonderful in my experience, very cheap used prices last time I looked

At last, someone has mentioned Wienbrock, my Me3 is switchable between 6V6 and 6L6, always used it with a pair of 6V6’s, never needed the extra power, it’s a great amp.

scovell001 · September 2023

markj said:

scovell001 said:

Hey guys, just wanted to reply - I ‘had’ a lazy j20 & sold it because it didn’t do what I wanted it to - always loved the 5e3 circuit but was always scared of an amp with no onboard reverb. Thx to this thread and rift having a limited edition run of 5e3’s, by pure coincidence a high end hand built 5e3 came up, took the chance and oh my giddy aunt!!!! This amp with just the stock as is layout, amazing !

So glad I took the plunge thx guys I’ll never be scared of an amp with no reverb again lol !

What’s the amp?

This one - https://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/221662/

my god it’s killer !

Lebarque · October 2023

Gotta love a 5E3. I've got a Lazy J 20 too. Interested in trying a J10 or something else with 6V6s though. Contrary to common wisdom, I love and use the 3D cleans. Pedals for OD.

fretfinder · October 2023

Lebarque said:

Gotta love a 5E3. I've got a Lazy J 20 too. Interested in trying a J10 or something else with 6V6s though.

You can put 6V6s in a J20, just change the rectifier to a 5Y3. I did that with my old J20H and it sounded glorious, so I kept it like that for all the time I had the amp.

Lebarque · October 2023

fretfinder said:

Lebarque said:

Gotta love a 5E3. I've got a Lazy J 20 too. Interested in trying a J10 or something else with 6V6s though.

You can put 6V6s in a J20, just change the rectifier to a 5Y3. I did that with my old J20H and it sounded glorious, so I kept it like that for all the time I had the amp.

You're right. I should try that.

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