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UNPLANNED DOWNTIME: 12th Oct 23:45
Getting there... Multi delay on one pedal advice. (e.g. Boss Gigadelay, Boss DD200, DD500 etc)
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I'm getting there with the pedal board, and looking at delays. With the intention of saving some board space, I could possibly ditch the TC Nova Delay and the EHX Memory Man with Hazarai. Both take up a lot of space.
Advantages of EHX - that analog type delay sound (not that clean digital sound & tap tempo).
Advantages of TC Nova - I can save a few delay types with specific BPMs for certain songs.
Strymon Timeline is an obvious answer but also Boss has some decent options, pedalboard friendly as well. DD200 and DD20/Gigadelay seem similar. They'd both have the tape, analog, and digital delay sounds with tap tempo and ability to save with specific BPMs.
The DD500 also look good in that I could use 2 delays at the same time, and would save me having to add another delay pedal if that's what I wanted, playing 2 delays at once etc.
All of those Boss ones can be had used easily enough, the Gigadelay less so, but they're out there.
What say ye?
Advantages of EHX - that analog type delay sound (not that clean digital sound & tap tempo).
Advantages of TC Nova - I can save a few delay types with specific BPMs for certain songs.
Strymon Timeline is an obvious answer but also Boss has some decent options, pedalboard friendly as well. DD200 and DD20/Gigadelay seem similar. They'd both have the tape, analog, and digital delay sounds with tap tempo and ability to save with specific BPMs.
The DD500 also look good in that I could use 2 delays at the same time, and would save me having to add another delay pedal if that's what I wanted, playing 2 delays at once etc.
All of those Boss ones can be had used easily enough, the Gigadelay less so, but they're out there.
What say ye?
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I've had the chronos before but the dd500 is far more flexible and sounds awesome.
The DD-20 is considerably more basic- probably a bit limited by today's standards if you want more than "normal" delays. Only three presets plus the manual mode that can act as a fourth. Good sounds, dead easy operation, nice feature set but very much a sensible, basic delay.
A big advantage of the DD-200/500 is MIDI, which means you can sync them to other pedals and/or control them from something like an ES-5/8.
I suspect the DD-200 gets you most of what the DD-500 can do with a simpler interface at the expense of some of the flexibility to do weirder stuff.
FWIW, neither of them are very good for making spaceship noises by turning the knobs on the fly because both have notched delay time controls that adjust in tiny increments. They get around this to a certain extent by having modes like "Warp" and "Twist", but nothing beats the hands on approach if that's what you're into.
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I have one and you can set up any number of patches with 3 delays per patch if wanted.
Great range of delay sounds ( from Flashback and Alter ego) and can use BPM or ms
Or Flight Time 2 if Mono is ok.
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Have you heard/ read about any reliability issues?
One practical thing I like about the dd500 is that it doesn’t have crazy high power requirements and can be run off batteries. This has saved me at a gig on more than one occasion.
Likewise, I've been able to persuade my DD-500 to do all sorts of cool stuff- I've got a patch that can toggle between three different tap tempo subdivisions, and one where I use one of the onboard Assign controls to modulate the delay time and make the repeats sound an octave above or below the pitch of the note and do a sort of half time / double time effect.
Fully agree though, if you're not someone who's happy to do deep programming it might feel like hard work. I reckon you could use the DD-500 to replicate a lot of the "special" delays on the market, only you have to "build" the sound yourself. I wouldn't blame anyone faced with that choice who said "fuck it, I'll buy the Strymon".
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I started with an HX FX, then sold it to get a Stomp, then bought another FX because I didn't like the foot switch limitations. Would you believe I'm now considering going back to a Stomp, because of its board friendly size and amp SIM capability.
I might keep the EHX memory man with hazarai to go alongside a Stomp and then maybe add the extra 2 button foot switch but that rules out the expression pedal. In all likelihood I’d use maybe 2 effects alongside some drive pedals. I’d also keep the Walrus Audio Slo as well initially.
Now to sell some gear !
My understanding is with the Eventide Timefactor, you can only choose one type of delay, but have two separate settings on button A and B. I do not know if that means both can be on at the same time though?
Do you really need multiple delay types in one pedal?
Any time I've had a multidelay pedal I have *always* found I had a favourite sound and then left it there.
I always feel like "options" is a great idea on paper but very quickly leads to "favourites" that render 90% of the options unnecessary.
then…
If you use the Pattern Delay mode and can get your head around the maths, that mode is essentially 16 delay lines. Double that up using the parallel switching mode, you get 32 parallel delays in theory. I’ve never attempted this though and am not sure what the point would be unless you’re trying to sculpt your own reverb type thing.
On top of that you can set up external control pedals or reassign the ‘tap tempo’ switch to assign pretty much whatever control you like to them. E.g. half the delay time.
It really does start to make you head spin if you fancy getting into that level of programming.
I rarely use two delays at once, but might be nice to have the option to experiment with.
I could replicate the EHX stuff on button A, and then the digital stuff on button B.
I wouldn't necessarily need 2 delays on at the same time all the time.
Other than that, I'd have an EHX Memory Toy only or a DD3!
My view is that tap tempo gets you close enough...in fact, being slightly out is not a bad thing.
There you go: I've just un-eliminated 537 pedals for you
e.g. a Timeline or a DD500 could do everything, but pricey...
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