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Celestion Creamback G12M-65 vs G12H-75 – which one sounds closer to a Greenback?

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  • JonathangusJonathangus Frets: 4080
    Because when you heard the Seventy 80, you turned it down?
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  • noisepolluternoisepolluter Frets: 721
    Great to hear the speaker swap has worked out Jon. I absolutely love my DSL with the Creamback in it, nothing else really gets a look in these days. 
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  • YorkieYorkie Frets: 934
    noisepolluter said:
    Great to hear the speaker swap has worked out Jon. I absolutely love my DSL with the Creamback in it, nothing else really gets a look in these days. 
    Genuinely happy with it :) 

    Same Greenback vibe with the Marshall character, it’s a fantastic match. 

    Jon
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  • noisepolluternoisepolluter Frets: 721
    Yorkie said:
    noisepolluter said:
    Great to hear the speaker swap has worked out Jon. I absolutely love my DSL with the Creamback in it, nothing else really gets a look in these days. 
    Genuinely happy with it :) 

    Same Greenback vibe with the Marshall character, it’s a fantastic match. 

    Jon
    I’m also super pleased that when I eventually need to change the power valves, I don’t need to lug it across town to be biased, thanks to the external bias points. 
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  • YorkieYorkie Frets: 934
    Mine is the C version where everything is internal, but at this point I am perfectly happy to bias it myself :)
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 69426
    Yorkie said:
    Now, I’ve got a question on sensitivities (Hopefully not related to speaker politics :lol: ). 

    Creamback: 97 dB. 
    Seventy/80: 98 dB. 

    Same impedance, the Creamback was noticeably louder. What is going on?
    I think it’s that the Seventy/80 is a stiff, lifeless, mediocre-sounding speaker that sucks the dynamics out of any amp that’s put through it. Perceived volume is as much about dynamic response as overall level.

    Why so many amp companies use them I don’t know. (Actually I do - cheapness.)

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  • YorkieYorkie Frets: 934
    Curiously, I have re-recorded a few segments at home levels and the difference doesn’t really get captured as much as I perceive it in the room. 

    But that’s the stuff that sounded good through the Seventy/80. There’s a bunch of new things I am doing that never sounded good through the old speaker :lol: 

    For example: Les Paul, neck pickup — my bass lines used to sound hollow and sterile. Not anymore. HUGE tone, so big that my wife came to see what was going on. 
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