NAM: neural amp modeler

Flink_Poyd · March 2023

Theres a very active Facebook group with captures being uploaded almost every day.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/5669559883092788/

mudslide73 · March 2023

Well, I've just had a play with this and I'm very impressed. I've only used a couple of Celestion IRs (Blue 2x12 and G12H30 4x12) but the mid/high gain amps (Splawn and Ceriatone King Kong) sound great and are very immediate - with some tweaking and the right IRs I think it'll be stellar. In short, I like it very much.

Vintage65 · March 2023

mudslide73 said:

Well, I've just had a play with this and I'm very impressed. I've only used a couple of Celestion IRs (Blue 2x12 and G12H30 4x12) but the mid/high gain amps (Splawn and Ceriatone King Kong) sound great and are very immediate - with some tweaking and the right IRs I think it'll be stellar. In short, I like it very much.

There are some blind tests here: https://gearspace.com/board/music-computers/1401607-nam-neural-amp-modeler.html

digitalscream · March 2023

When I get some spare time, I'm considering using it to model Nembrini's ADA MP-1 plugin on some of my favourite settings. The goal would be to see if I can get it running on a Pi 4 - which might make it possible to build a really cool, lightweight gigging unit.

Apparently it's quite CPU-heavy at the moment, but they're making some great progress on that front.

hollywoodrox · March 2023

The download page looked a bit scary . I found this bit though ,I’m guessing say on my Mac this just installs like any other program. If so will be interested in giving it a try .

Not sure how you will import various models into it . Will check out a YouTube video in a minute . I’m sure Leon Todd has done one

mudslide73 · March 2023

The quality is there imo. I've only had about 40 mins on it tonight and I'm a fan. I'm seriously thinking about installing it on my little Lenovo laptop to try with the band.

Vintage65 · March 2023

I've been experimenting with TH-U cabs instead of using IR's and I think I may be making some progress regarding the overall sound.

Vintage65 · March 2023

Latest setup: TH-U pedals > NAM > TH-U Cab & FX

How is everybody else using it?

mudslide73 · March 2023

Guitar > interface > NAM > Celestion IR > reverb and delay added as inserts in Reaper.

I'm sure pedals will be great (I previously tried this with LePou amps with much success) but I'm still evaluating all the NAM amps. I'm keeping the IR constant (G12H30 4x12) atm so I can make sense of what's changing.

I used it to redo some rhythm parts on a live recording of ours (Live and Dangerous style) with a Friedman model. The results were very favourable. It just needed a bit of Pultec and reverb to make it not stand out in the mix. It feels more amp like than Helix Native imo, just more present, I think.

PolarityMan · April 2023

I think helix native doesnt do it any favours on it's default output level. Its consistently quieter than basically everything else unless you crank the output a little. I watched a video where a guy was able to tone match arcehtype: gojira pretty well with native.

Vintage65 · April 2023

PolarityMan said:

I think helix native doesnt do it any favours on it's default output level. Its consistently quieter than basically everything else unless you crank the output a little. I watched a video where a guy was able to tone match arcehtype: gojira pretty well with native.

Have you got the instrument gain set right on your audio interface? I find that using some plugins after HN usually gets me the sound that I am looking for.

PolarityMan · April 2023

Vintage65 said:

PolarityMan said:

I think helix native doesnt do it any favours on it's default output level. Its consistently quieter than basically everything else unless you crank the output a little. I watched a video where a guy was able to tone match arcehtype: gojira pretty well with native.

Have you got the instrument gain set right on your audio interface? I find that using some plugins after HN usually gets me the sound that I am looking for.

Some plugins to boost the output level perhaps?

Vintage65 · April 2023

PolarityMan said:
Some plugins to boost the output level perhaps?

No, I use them to titivate the sound

I gain stage all my tracks and boost the levels during mastering, and I get the right input volume level in Helix Native by adjusting the audio interface instrument gain for each guitar.

If you're just jamming you could boost the output volume in Helix or turn up your monitors.

At the end of the day it's what sounds good that matters.

Flink_Poyd · April 2023

ToneHunt has gone live in the last few days

https://tonehunt.org/

Vintage65 · April 2023

Flink_Poyd said:

ToneHunt has gone live in the last few days

https://tonehunt.org/

Thanks, some great stuff in there.

My new toy ... OCD > Orange amp > Orange TH-U cab

Vintage65 · April 2023

How many snapshots would it take to comprehensively model a typical fx pedal?

Vintage65 · April 2023

This is my final Neural Amp Modeler ITB studio recording chain (for now!)

*NAM/Helix Native/ (pre-amp fx) >>> NAM (amp) >>> Helix Native (post-amp fx) >>> TH-U (cab)

*I use NAM pre-amp for drive pedals. I think NAM type tech could be the solution for ITB drive & fuzz pedals if they can work out some flexible sampling techniques.

Vintage65 · April 2023

Talk of a NAM Kickstarter pedal!

Vintage65 · April 2023

New update with normalisation and improved CPU performance.

https://github.com/sdatkinson/NeuralAmpModelerPlugin/releases/tag/v0.7.2

flying_pie · April 2023

I gave it a try recording a solo for this month's SOTM. I used a Friedman Jake E Lee NAM amp and a York Audio Friedman V30 IR. It's only high gain lead, rather than a more picky tone, but I think it sounds pretty good

Vintage65 · April 2023

flying_pie said:

I gave it a try recording a solo for this month's SOTM. I used a Friedman Jake E Lee NAM amp and a York Audio Friedman V30 IR. It's only high gain lead, rather than a more picky tone, but I think it sounds pretty good

You have to be careful with the gain staging and dial it in properly. My recording chain is fairly complex, so I go through everything with a VUMT meter. Considering NAM is still in beta it's potential is huge,

Vintage65 · April 2023

A new NAM fork with some useful features is under development (VST3 version is now available).

Vintage65 · June 2023

Great NAM how-to video:

Neural Amp Modeler - (Amp vs NAM Capture / Reamp Calibration / Initial Setup)

andy_k · June 2023

I just wish it could work on older MacOS, without having to to some dodgy hack to move up OS, and thereby lose all my current stuff.
Catalina ( I think) uses a completely different file format, so I'll just have to make do with NAM on a Win11 laptop, and work with the stems on my perfectly capable 27inch Imac (unsupported)

Deft · June 2023

Been having a play, it's pretty impressive and can only get better really. This Magnatone capture sounds ace, been hoping for a Magnatone in Helix for ages:

https://tonehunt.org/TimR/8774f8c4-8d84-41eb-9d68-8fe4acfef4eb

Jonathanthomas83 · September 2023

Well, I tried it again after a couple of months (where it or I failed). Tonight however, it sounded magnificent! I'm very impressed! Only tried it for the clean amps I love, so far, Morgan AC20, Laney stuff and a Hiwatt and I got all the vibes I'd expect and to my ears, sounds nice and lively (read, "amp-like", IMO).

@Vintage65 do you think this thread might get more traction in the 'Digital & Modelling' section now, perhaps? I'd love it to become a thing on tFB, much like the "official tFB" fractal and Kemper threads are!

Roland · September 2023

Moved to the new Digital and Modelling section

Jonathanthomas83 · September 2023

Anyone else using NAM? I'm really enjoying the stuff I'm getting out of it. I think it sounds brilliant.

For those with a Fractal or a Kemper who have tried NAM, how would you say it compares? I have my thoughts on this but would like to hear yours first.

Paul_C · September 2023

The Poly Beebo has some NAM models in its latest update, you can't control much of them yet and they take up a lot of space at the moment (so amp + reverb isn't possible) but it's in the early stages so hopefully will improve later.

Vintage65 · September 2023

Jonathanthomas83 said:
Anyone else using NAM? I'm really enjoying the stuff I'm getting out of it. I think it sounds brilliant.

For those with a Fractal or a Kemper who have tried NAM, how would you say it compares? I have my thoughts on this but would like to hear yours first.

NAM is still experimental for me, although I am using the FX and studio gear emulations for reamping and colouring tracks. I am so used to operating the Kemper with Rig Manager that it would take something really special to move me away from it. All of my templates are setup for instant recording, and I like the fact that there is no CPU hit, In saying that, NAM can only get better and it's already incredible, so it's all down to features and usability at the moment.

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