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00, short scale, 1 3/4” nut, all mahogany guitar???

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brucegillbrucegill Frets: 643
edited December 2019 in Acoustics
Can anyone think of anything like this??

I have a lowden Bog Oak and Lutz spruce F35 and a Martin spruce and sinker mahogany dread, I want something to go with these two guitars, not to compete with them or cross over too much. Light build, purely for fingerpicking. No smaller than 00 as they all seem to sound like a box of cornflakes to me. All I can think of is another Lowden and that’s not what I want, and not something I can afford. Not really sure I want to go custom either. If it’s a Martin, I don’t like their satin finish. I don’t need a pickup. 12 or 14 fret
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  • Andy79Andy79 Frets: 881
    edited December 2019
    What budget are we working with here?
     Santa Cruz 1929 00. Done. 
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  • brucegillbrucegill Frets: 643
    Andy79 said:
    What budget are we working with here?
     Santa Cruz 1929 00. Done. 
    I have a horrible feeling your spot on. I was hoping for something cheeper, but not sure I’m going to be 100% happy. Would be a long time saving/paying a Santa Cruz off, and I’ve not tried this model. I loved a Santa Cruz VA dread. Not mad keen on Collings. 

    I wounded if there’s something more around the £2k budget. 
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  • Andy79Andy79 Frets: 881
    That 1929 is off the the scale. The spinal Tap one at that 
    There’s the 000-15SM at the lower end of things but longer scale and annoying finish 
    Gibson LG0 is great but there’s compromise to be had with the nut. 
    I wish Collings made a  Waterloo hog top. They are missing a trick 
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  • brucegillbrucegill Frets: 643
    Andy79 said:
    That 1929 is off the the scale. The spinal Tap one at that 
    There’s the 000-15SM at the lower end of things but longer scale and annoying finish 
    Gibson LG0 is great but there’s compromise to be had with the nut. 
    I wish Collings made a  Waterloo hog top. They are missing a trick 
    Yeah, the Waterloo Kel Kroydon looks spot on to me, wish it had a hog top. That would be more up my street I think. I’ve not tried the Santa Cruz but think it may end up a little too complex in tone. I might be completely wrong though

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  • earwighoneyearwighoney Frets: 3380
    Waterloo have a few 00-12/14's in all Mahogany.

    Eastman had a all Mahogany 00-14 as well, discontinued though now.

    Not solid but Sigma do as well.
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  • Andy79Andy79 Frets: 881
    earwighoney said:
    Waterloo have a few 00-12/14's in all Mahogany.

    Eastman had a all Mahogany 00-14 as well, discontinued though now.

    Not solid but Sigma do as well.
    I stand corrected on the Waterloo!
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  • Andy79Andy79 Frets: 881
    https://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/product/180210322553008-2716080--waterloo-wl-12-mahogany-ex-demo-2822
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  • brucegillbrucegill Frets: 643
    earwighoney said:
    Waterloo have a few 00-12/14's in all Mahogany.

    Eastman had a all Mahogany 00-14 as well, discontinued though now.

    Not solid but Sigma do as well.
    Many thanks mate!!

    Andy79 said:
    https://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/product/180210322553008-2716080--waterloo-wl-12-mahogany-ex-demo-2822

    Hey, that could work! Many thanks for finding that mate
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  • brucegillbrucegill Frets: 643
    God damm they make it easy to spend money lol. 0% down and pay it off in a year for a cost of £29.  Aggg. Off to YouTube I go with the headphones on.... many thanks guys
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  • brucegillbrucegill Frets: 643
    Yup. That’ll work 
    https://youtu.be/FNqdu4YqSOY
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  • Andy79Andy79 Frets: 881
    Bloody nice is that. 
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  • earwighoneyearwighoney Frets: 3380
    Martin had a signature model for Jeff Tweedy that was a deep body 00-14.  Out of production but they crop up SH now and again.  Long scale though.

    It's not a 00, but wider than a 0, Guild have a few all Mahogany smaller bodied 14 fret guitars. 



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  • GTCGTC Frets: 241
    Coda music have a beautiful new 00 Brook Lynn 12-fretter in figured mahogany. it is up on Reverb at £2,650 (with a make offer option) - https://reverb.com/item/27550358-brook-lyn-figured-mahogany
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  • brucegillbrucegill Frets: 643
    Many thanks. 

    Like the look of brooks and need to try them out. Liked the few James Millman guitars I’ve tried and I think he started at Brook

    Coda has a Tweedy in stock, used, but I really wanted 1 3/4” with a shorter scale. 

    That WL12-mh looks perfect.  Watch this space....
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  • BigLicks67BigLicks67 Frets: 763
    Have a look for a used Martin 00-18V.
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  • brucegillbrucegill Frets: 643
    BigLicks67 said:
    Have a look for a used Martin 00-18V.
    Hi. I’ve looked but the specs seem odd with a long scale and narrow nut. I think the retro ones are right for me but they have a bloody crap pickup installed with nobs and a tuner on the side, plus I’m assuming they have that matt finish. Thanks though. The little Waterloo looks spot on. Or if I had the money the Santa Cruz. 
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  • brucegillbrucegill Frets: 643
    Sorry, miss read your post. I’m looking for hog top. So 15 series. 
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  • BigLicks67BigLicks67 Frets: 763
    brucegill said:
    BigLicks67 said:
    Have a look for a used Martin 00-18V.
    Hi. I’ve looked but the specs seem odd with a long scale and narrow nut. I think the retro ones are right for me but they have a bloody crap pickup installed with nobs and a tuner on the side, plus I’m assuming they have that matt finish. Thanks though. The little Waterloo looks spot on. Or if I had the money the Santa Cruz. 
    Not sure what specs you have seen but it should a 24.9 short scale with a 1 3/4 nut. Obviously, if a mahogany top is a must have then it is not suitable, but the V series are really liveley guitars IMHO.
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  • brucegillbrucegill Frets: 643
    Button pushed on the Waterloo WL12-MH :)

    Thanks guys
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  • Chris_JChris_J Frets: 138
    Woah! Enjoy!

    Very much the sort of guitar I could get into!
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  • earwighoneyearwighoney Frets: 3380
    brucegill said:
    Button pushed on the Waterloo WL12-MH

    Thanks guys

    You my good sir are an inspiration to this forum. 

    A incoming NGD just after posting up a thread requesting info and suggestions.
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  • BigLicks67BigLicks67 Frets: 763
    One of these?


    Sounds nice and warm enjoy. Happy NGD.

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  • brucegillbrucegill Frets: 643
    BigLicks67 said:
    One of these?


    Sounds nice and warm enjoy. Happy NGD.

    That’s the one. Many thanks! Hopefully here on a Tuesday I’d guess. 
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  • brucegillbrucegill Frets: 643
    Just seen the Waterloo has a 2 3/8” saddle spacing. I’m used to 2 1/8”. That should be interesting...

    buy now, research later lol. 
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  • WhitecatWhitecat Frets: 5078
    Just in case you send it back, when I saw this thread just now thought of this one immediately:

    https://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/acoustic/522ce

    Has a pickup but pretty sure all Taylors do now over a certain price...
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  • idiotwindowidiotwindow Frets: 1204
    Whitecat said:
    Has a pickup but pretty sure all Taylors do now over a certain price...
    Yes, pretty much. It's a real shame that Taylor do this. The only models with an option for no pickup are the Academy, Baby Taylor and the new Grand Pacific. I guess you have to go the custom route if you want one of the other guitars without any electronics.
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  • WhitecatWhitecat Frets: 5078
    idiotwindow said:
    Whitecat said:
    Has a pickup but pretty sure all Taylors do now over a certain price...
    Yes, pretty much. It's a real shame that Taylor do this. The only models with an option for no pickup are the Academy, Baby Taylor and the new Grand Pacific. I guess you have to go the custom route if you want one of the other guitars without any electronics.

    To Taylor's credit I like the unintrusive controls... three knobs, unlabelled, that's all... no big square panels with a zillion switches and sliders and knobs that once dead are locked in there forever... but yeah, it would be nice to be able to order one au naturel...
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  • Andy79Andy79 Frets: 881
    Waiting for the verdict.....
    I predict you can’t put it down due to it awesomeness 
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  • brucegillbrucegill Frets: 643
    edited December 2019
    It’s nice. Really fun to play. Sharp frets so guess Camden shop is rather dry at the moment. It’s a great little blues box. Not sure it’s worth the money to be honest mate. Sending it back unfortunately.  Not up for having to do work to a £2200 guitar, just annoying. I know it’s an easy fix, but not doing it when it cost this much, it should be perfect apart from a minor ding on the top they mentioned on their site. Id say the little martins are probables a better buy, and cheeper. It’s a shame. 

    Would love to change the strings before it goes back too, why they bother sending it out with black rubber bands on it, I’ll never know. Hay ho. 
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  • Andy79Andy79 Frets: 881
    What a shame they sent it out like that. Probably went some way to making your decision for you
    Well if your back on the hunt and thinking the Martin may be better look at this


    https://www.projectmusic.net/sigma-000m-15s-22749-p.asp
    i played on the other day and it was bloody good 
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