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lovestrat74 · June 2018

Great day, thanks to everyone involved it was fantastic day for me and my boy.

Just catching up with the thread after returning home striking up the Barbie and entertaining some good friends and putting my new bottle opener to good use!

The day started off with @peteri saying to jr can i trust you, then offering one of his guitars to hold while he did something. I then took the guitar off him to check it out. A 53 LP !!

Met so many great guys today and had a really enjoyable day. Would like to thank you all for taking Finn under your wing and supporting and encouraging him. He had a great day and a real eye-opening experience for him. We will definitely be back!

Big thanks to @TTony @Bridgehouse and @poopot for making today happen and @Handsome_Chris for shining up my boy's bass!

Too many names to mention but it was a pleasure meeting you all today!

P.S. apologies to Stevie Wonder - I love you man!

Rabs · June 2018

Bridgehouse said:

Rabs said:

Bridgehouse said:

Great vids @Rabs ;

No worries.. I thought some video recording was in order

You guys may be interested to know.. Of the 9 videos I just uploaded I got 1 copyright notice for the second take of Comfortably Numb..

Haha! Maybe my bassline and @poopots solo was close enough to the original after all

Actually, more detail. When I go and look at the copyright claim thing it tells me exactly which bit is the copyright.. It says

Comfortably Numb

Music composition 0:02 - 3:36 play match

Bridgehouse · June 2018

lovestrat74 said:

Great day, thanks to everyone involved it was fantastic day for me and my boy.

Just catching up with the thread after returning home striking up the Barbie and entertaining some good friends and putting my new bottle opener to good use!

The day started off with @peteri saying to jr can i trust you, then offering one of his guitars to hold while he did something. I then took the guitar off him to check it out. A 53 LP !!

Met so many great guys today and had a really enjoyable day. Would like to thank you all for taking Finn under your wing and supporting and encouraging him. He had a great day and a real eye-opening experience for him. We will definitely be back!

Big thanks to @TTony @Bridgehouse and @poopot for making today happen and @Handsome_Chris for shining up my boy's bass!

Too many names to mention but it was a pleasure meeting you all today!

P.S. apologies to Stevie Wonder - I love you man!

So glad he had a good day - it's what our Jam days are all about. He's a great player - I did the bass on Come Together in Huddersfield and it's a toughie - he did brilliantly.

Next time he needs to have a go on a full scale - would open up so many more tonal possibilities too - and I'll make sure I bring a few more 'choice' basses along for him to have a go on - the '64 and '74 Precisions would be worth a go at least..

pmbomb · June 2018

Good lad, in the future these will be precious memories for him. Apart from anything else he probably brought the average age down by about 6 months. (Based on a "small sample", rock guitar seems to be a middle aged white bloke past-time).

Speaking as someone who bought a guitar when he was 16 but didn't play until he was 50, I really hope Jr sticks with it.

pmbomb · June 2018

overheard from StarDrummer at the end: "23 guitarists here and I bet not one bugger offers to help with my kit".

munckee · June 2018

Had an awesome day yesterday, to anyone who is unsure about going to these things you could not be in a more supportive environment to play. Was my first ever time playing with anyone else yesterday and I loved every minute, even the point in comfortably when I actually stopped playing in awe of @poopot playing the solo with one days notice!

Loads of highlights some I will already have forgotten, watching @lovestrat74 s lad playing on come together, @mrkb s mick jagger dance, @peteri playing the solo to beat it, @slacker being good at everything.

Seeing all the talent and gear was brilliant, @mtb casually saying he had hand built both his lovely tweed amps, hearing @Flanging_Fred show me what my strat could sound like if I learned to play and finally letting me try a hudson broadcast, a drum lesson from mark blagdon, good looking, good singer, drummer and guitar player, your mates must hate you : )

For me the way it was organised was ideal, the rooms downstairs were fully set up, we had a complete run through of comfortably in a practice room. @mtb and @McToot and I had a quiet room to work out three rhythm parts for learning to fly.

All that for fifteen quid!!

pmbomb · June 2018

Good you got the chance of run throughs @munckee - that would have really helped me on my tunes. I put the above on a post now buried at top of thread, if I was to be back it's certainly what I would aim to arrange:

Thoughts - my 3 tunes were all 1 take and out, it was a bit of a blink really, I would have really enjoyed a little practice time as a 'band' prior to the performance (and would have played better). Obviously that would need changing the format to more "bands" playing mini-sets rather than hot seating every tune.

I guess for the hot seat format this is only feasible towards the end of the day as people's commitments start to close off.

To be fair I also should have practiced Tush more!

pmbomb · June 2018

I'd also take a nice long cable so I could move about, see the other players better and wave at the control room.

munckee · June 2018

pmbomb said:

I'd also take a nice long cable so I could move about, see the other players better and wave at the control room.

this definitely, what seems like a long cable at home really restricted me, especially as I was trying to watch other people to make sure I was in time, being in the room I heard things very differently and with ear plugs in.

Having the rehearsal time was lucky, I think that everyone I was playing with seemed to have a gap during the first set. Really helped for how to finish comfortably and everything.

darthed1981 · June 2018

pmbomb said:

overheard from StarDrummer at the end: "23 guitarists here and I bet not one bugger offers to help with my kit".

I don't think that was our original "Star Drummer" but rather we were fortunate enough to be joined by the rest of @poopot 's band or his drummer and bassist anyhow - who saved the day after the original didn't show!

Thanks to both of them for helping make the day such a success.

Edit: I'd have helped with the kit but what I know about drums could be written on the back of a stamp!

mrkb · June 2018

pmbomb said:

Good you got the chance of run throughs @munckee - that would have really helped me on my tunes. I put the above on a post now buried at top of thread, if I was to be back it's certainly what I would aim to arrange:

Thoughts - my 3 tunes were all 1 take and out, it was a bit of a blink really, I would have really enjoyed a little practice time as a 'band' prior to the performance (and would have played better). Obviously that would need changing the format to more "bands" playing mini-sets rather than hot seating every tune.

I guess for the hot seat format this is only feasible towards the end of the day as people's commitments start to close off.

To be fair I also should have practiced Tush more!

It’s worth grabbing any of the other people playing on your songs early on and arranging this (or contacting them in advance)- you won’t ever got the full band (there’s never enough drummers or singers), but you should get the chance to run through with someone. You could even bring a Y cable and MP3 player and plug a backing track into the practice room PA. I’d love to get to do more run throughs but I played on over 10 tracks yesterday, so only managed a Comfortably Numb play through and a chat with @brocco to talk through our solo harmonisation.

I did singing, guitar (inc solo) then drumming on the first three tracks, so went into them all cold, but learnt to grab a few minutes to warm up (unplugged) when everyone else was setting levels and then get focussed on the song/calm myself down.

It’s part of the fun seeing what you can get away with - it’s about performing not doing a record perfect copy. Your Tush playing was great and we all adjusted to suit what the track needed, that’s what playing music TOGETHER is about, and you can’t get that experience playing along to tracks at home.

Im sorry to everyone who I asked to bring pedals for me to try out, I never got time to do any geeking out, but hope they got drooled over by others. I must get to try a Broadcast at the next one!

McToot · June 2018

Just catching up on all of the post Rats chat. Last night I was mainly busy inhaling the lovely cold craft beers that @pmbomb gave me from his own company's stash and feeding my face after a one-Twix day. I was well and truly knackered.

It was was quite a day. My first formal jam and deffo not my last. Thanks to all who had a hand in making it come to pass and to those what took photos and videos to remind us what we look like when trying to remember the 4 chords in Learning to Fly...

I learned a number of lessons yesterday:

1. If you really want to play well with others you need to put in the effort and do it often
2. Talent helps with the above but is not essential: effort trumps it in importance
3. I would play better with food and (a little) beer in me so next time I'll bring supplies
4. A superbly well built Marshall JTM45 clone (probably better than the real thing) sounds utterly jaw dropping played at full chat. It's what made me want to be a guitarer.
5. I need to smile more and worry less

And one more lesson already learned but reaffirmed: we have a pretty special thing going on at the Fretboard.

mrkb · June 2018

munckee said:

Loads of highlights some I will already have forgotten, watching @lovestrat74 s lad playing on come together, @mrkb s mick jagger dance, @peteri playing the solo to beat it, @slacker being good at everything.

Seeing all the talent and gear was brilliant, @mtb casually saying he had hand built both his lovely tweed amps, hearing @Flanging_Fred show me what my strat could sound like if I learned to play and finally letting me try a hudson broadcast, a drum lesson from mark blagdon, good looking, good singer, drummer and guitar player, your mates must hate you : )

Cheers @munckee - your comments made my wife laugh!

The atmosphere at these is excellent - supportive and inspirational. Was great to meet up and talk Tele mods - I definitely want to try others guitars at future events to see what styles and mods I like. I started Tru oiling the back of my necks after trying some at previous events.

It was great to play backing band to the @lovestrat74 family - hope his lad enjoyed it and wants to attend other events to develop his playing.

pmbomb · June 2018

@McToot ;Glad the brew went down well. (So did mine). I have a bit of a problem getting high on my own supply, those are sales samples!

> 1. If you really want to play well with others you need to put in the effort and do it often

I go to Rock Project in Dorking, standard can be very variable and it needs to be approached as a bit of fun, but it quickly gets you used to playing with others without all the overhead of finding a band.

darthed1981 · June 2018

I have to admit seeing the samples bought along yesterday is starting to change my mind about vintage guitars a bit!

Some truly fantastic instruments all round brought along yesterday in fact, everything from that astonishing sounding Hello Kitty Squier strat (the pickup was STOCK!) upto the gorgeous '53 Les Paul.

Also some beautiful custom made, modded, British made, and clearly much loved gear.

And my little PRS SE came as well, and sounded great plugged into that big Marshall, even with me playing it!

McToot · June 2018

Ooh. Another thing I learned yesterday: Julian is actually a rock n roll name. There were three of us there yesterday.

Who'd have thunk it.

pmbomb · June 2018

> I have to admit seeing the samples bought along yesterday is starting to change my mind about vintage guitars a bit!

Yeah man, I now have a guitardon for a birth year Strat like peteri's. There goes my littl'uns university fund!

McToot · June 2018

Ah - one more thing. Next time, to avoid yelling "Oy! @slacker or @poopot ", etc across a crowded room we should all bring a sharpie and do this:

TTony · June 2018

McToot said:

Ah - one more thing. Next time, to avoid yelling "Oy! @slacker or @poopot ", etc across a crowded room we should all bring a sharpie and do this:

Trouble is, there were quite a few "Jules" there, but only one McToot.

("thank the lord" I hear in the background ...)

poopot · June 2018

pmbomb said:

overheard from StarDrummer at the end: "23 guitarists here and I bet not one bugger offers to help with my kit".

Ahhh, ignore her... long standing drummer joke

tbh must have been a nightmare for him, locked i n a building with 20+ guitarists and nowhere to run!!!!

spoke to both Matt (drummer) and Bill (big bloke plays bass banjo) last night, both enjoyed the day and were glad to help out!...

Tone71 · June 2018

munckee said:

pmbomb said:

I'd also take a nice long cable so I could move about, see the other players better and wave at the control room.

this definitely, what seems like a long cable at home really restricted me, especially as I was trying to watch other people to make sure I was in time, being in the room I heard things very differently and with ear plugs in.

Having the rehearsal time was lucky, I think that everyone I was playing with seemed to have a gap during the first set. Really helped for how to finish comfortably and everything.

Don`t make the mistake of a 10m cable!! Absolute pain in the arse.

A couple of us did help the drummer (always glad to help someone in a Brentford top) but crickey what type of industrial weight lead was in those bags?

Good to listen to the vids posted, funny how its heard different when your in the room playing, that was only my 3rd time in a studio and have only left the house to play with others in the last 9 months, its a huge learning curve but really enjoyable.

Would highly recommend it to anyone else thinking/considering it, I was 99% sure I would bottle it and cry off by the time yesterday come around after signing up but really glad I didn`t.

lovestrat74 · June 2018

Bridgehouse said:

Now I’m this next pic you will see @Guitar_Slinger slowly bending down to sing into his mic.. which was 6” off the ground after slippage...

Didn't see "Going Down Slow" on the set list!

TTony · June 2018

Tone71 said:
Would highly recommend it to anyone else thinking/considering it, I was 99% sure I would bottle it and cry off by the time yesterday come around after signing up but really glad I didn`t.

What WISE words !!

Tone71 said:

Good to listen to the vids posted, funny how its heard different when your in the room playing,

When we get the mastered recordings back, it'll sound very different to the sound from an in-the-room smartphone recording too. Everything in there was mic'd up separately, so all the tracks can be rebalanced and mastered separately. Really looking forward to how it all sounds once that's been done.

mrkb · June 2018

lovestrat74 said:

Bridgehouse said:

Now I’m this next pic you will see @Guitar_Slinger slowly bending down to sing into his mic.. which was 6” off the ground after slippage...

Didn't see "Going Down Slow" on the set list!

I’m glad @bridgehouse wasn’t stood a foot further to the left or that photo would look suspicious!

Bridgehouse · June 2018

mrkb said:

lovestrat74 said:

Bridgehouse said:

Now I’m this next pic you will see @Guitar_Slinger slowly bending down to sing into his mic.. which was 6” off the ground after slippage...

Didn't see "Going Down Slow" on the set list!

I’m glad @bridgehouse wasn’t stood a foot further to the left or that photo would look suspicious!

It looked pretty suspicious from where I was anyway.. but then I saw what @Guitar_Slinger was up to and it all made sense.

His knob had slipped and required adjustment.

Guitar_Slinger · June 2018

None of that would have happened if @Bridgehouse twisted my knob hard enough to start with.

The boring truth is as I leaned in to do backing vocals, the boom drooped towards the floor. I knelt down to sing, hoping for an open string note, to lift the boom back up while playing one-handed.

Of course, it would have fallen back down as soon as two-handed stuff started again... but it hall happened so fast, officer.

Bridgehouse · June 2018

Guitar_Slinger said:

None of that would have happened if @Bridgehouse twisted my knob hard enough to start with.

The boring truth is that as I leaned in Todo backing vocals, the boom drooped towards the floor. I knelt down while hoping for an open string note, so I could lift the boom back up while playing one-handed.

Of course, it would have fallen back down as soon as the two-handed stuff started again... but it hall happened so fast, officer.

In fairness, I didn’t tighten your knob in the first place - that was one of the sound guys. My first encounter with your knob was when you were scrabbling on your knees trying to get your gob round the bulbous end.

slacker · June 2018

And back on topic...

What a great day, well organised, good venue, positive atmosphere, some real team work and some really generous people.

Guitar_Slinger · June 2018

Tone71 said:

Good to listen to the vids posted, funny how its heard different when your in the room playing, that was only my 3rd time in a studio and have only left the house to play with others in the last 9 months, its a huge learning curve but really enjoyable.

Would highly recommend it to anyone else thinking/considering it, I was 99% sure I would bottle it and cry off by the time yesterday come around after signing up but really glad I didn`t.

You should get out more.

Two minutes in a room with somebody I've never met before (you), without amplifiers, and we worked out what to play parts on two songs.

I enjoyed those songs the most and IMHO you'd make a good bandmate.

Tone71 · June 2018

Guitar_Slinger said:

Tone71 said:

Good to listen to the vids posted, funny how its heard different when your in the room playing, that was only my 3rd time in a studio and have only left the house to play with others in the last 9 months, its a huge learning curve but really enjoyable.

Would highly recommend it to anyone else thinking/considering it, I was 99% sure I would bottle it and cry off by the time yesterday come around after signing up but really glad I didn`t.

You should get out more.

Two minutes in a room with somebody I've never met before (you), without amplifiers, and we worked out what to play parts on two songs.

I enjoyed those songs the most and IMHO you'd make a good bandmate.

Thanks pal, very kind words.

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