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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 69426
    viz said:
    That's unbelievable.
    Sounds more like dishonesty to me. Claiming he hasn't had the guitar back so won't refund...

    Hopefully Paypal will treat the signed-for delivery as proof and refund you whether he likes it or not.

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

    "Just because I don't care, doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson

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  • mike_lmike_l Frets: 5698
    Adam_MD said:
    mike_l;21001" said:
    pitchforks and Vims trusty hatchet at the ready...
    I'll get my delay pedal :D
    Why, you can't stab him with a delay pedal...........
    :D

    Ringleader of the Cambridge cartel, pedal champ and king of the dirt boxes (down to 21) 

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  • gilbygilby Frets: 176
    But you can brain him with it again and again and again.......
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  • Paul_CPaul_C Frets: 7086
    how about a message from 500+ ebay account holders saying "stop being an arse and pay up" ?

    ;)

    "I'll probably be in the bins at Newport Pagnell services."  fretmeister
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  • jmasterjmaster Frets: 19
    Paul_C said:
    how about a message from 500+ ebay account holders saying "stop being an arse and pay up" ?

    ;)

    I'm in.
    "have a good time, all the time" Spinal Tap
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  • geepers0677geepers0677 Frets: 119
    Making progress. He's 'located' the person who signed for guitar and will hopefully obtain it tomorrow. Said he will refund as soon as he has checked it over. Am now holding breath. Lol.

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  • geepers0677geepers0677 Frets: 119
    I do like the support on here. It's made me chase the refund and take no crappy excuses. It's like he wronged all of us. :) thanks all. Will keep fingers crossed for tomorrow.

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  • vizviz Frets: 10211
    Found the person who signed for it with his name and signature?? From a business that he runs from home, or from his shop? Tscha.
    Paul_C said: People never read the signature bit.
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  • geepers0677geepers0677 Frets: 119
    edited August 2013
    REFUND RECEIVED!
    Full refund. Also got the postage I paid to receive the guitar. Sadly didn't get the 17 quid it cost me to return it, but I might take this as a win and put it behind me now. 


    Avoid.

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  • SporkySporky Frets: 23802
    He ought to be paying the return postage, dagnammit! Have you left feedback yet? If not you still have a bargaining chip...
    "[Sporky] brings a certain vibe and dignity to the forum."
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  • geepers0677geepers0677 Frets: 119
    edited August 2013
    and he's already relisted. 
    This auction began on the 25th! a day before he said he hadn't received it... hahahaha!

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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 26143
    geepers0677 said:
    and he's already relisted. 
    This auction began on the 25th! a day before he said he hadn't received it... hahahaha!
    Do I smell the beginnings of a forum revenge campaign ??
    Having trouble posting images here?  This might help.
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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 26143

    Are you sure its a 212 model?  Looks very like the 612 to me ...

     

    :D

    Having trouble posting images here?  This might help.
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  • geepers0677geepers0677 Frets: 119
    TTony said:

    Are you sure its a 212 model?  Looks very like the 612 to me ...

     

    :D

    :D :D :D

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  • geepers0677geepers0677 Frets: 119
    ebay have completely shut the case now, so it looks like I'm not going to get the return courier costs. Still, lesson learned and I am now walking away dignity intact :)

    What an adventure! 

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  • gilbygilby Frets: 176
    Glad it all turned out good in the end
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 69426
    edited August 2013
    Open a Paypal dispute for the return costs. Don't let him get away with it. It's not very much hassle.

    He's clearly been dishonest from start to finish.

    And definitely don't leave feedback until all options are exhausted - there's only one sort he deserves but as Sporky says, holding out will give you a small amount of leverage.

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

    "Just because I don't care, doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson

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  • geepers0677geepers0677 Frets: 119
    ICBM said:
    Open a Paypal dispute for the return costs. Don't let him get away with it. It's not very much hassle.

    Just tried - they won't open or rather reopen a case that has automatically been closed by the refund. Bit of a flaw in the system. Going to ring them and speak to a human tomorrow. 

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  • Adam_MDAdam_MD Frets: 3420
    Don't let it drop the only way assholes like this learn is when someone doesn't just walk away. Get back all the money you're entitled to so he thinks next time he screws someone.
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  • jaygtrjaygtr Frets: 218
    edited August 2013
    At the moment he hasn't lost out at all, so if you can summon up the enthusiasm and pursue it, it might make him think twice in the future if he loses out Although somehow I doubt it.
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  • Dave_McDave_Mc Frets: 2022
    glad you got a refund

    sucks about not getting the return postage

    I'm with sporky and icbm (and everyone else, really)- you might as well try to get the postage back, and don't leave feedback until the last possible moment.
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  • SporkySporky Frets: 23802
    The only thing I'd add is that if he does refund your costs to return it (which he absolutely should) then don't leave negative feedback. Not because he'll have made everything OK (he'll still be a twit at best and a scumbag at worst) but because if you get all your money back and still leave negative feedback, the next time he does it he'll assume he's getting negative feedback anyway and definitely won't refund that return postage.

    'Course, I could be over-thinking this.
    "[Sporky] brings a certain vibe and dignity to the forum."
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  • bertiebertie Frets: 12145
    viz said:
    Unbelievable. What's his feedback like?
    screechy,  worse when he stands close to the amp
    just because you don't, doesn't mean you can't
     just because you do, doesn't mean you should.
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  • geepers0677geepers0677 Frets: 119
    Sporky said:
    The only thing I'd add is that if he does refund your costs to return it (which he absolutely should) then don't leave negative feedback. Not because he'll have made everything OK (he'll still be a twit at best and a scumbag at worst) but because if you get all your money back and still leave negative feedback, the next time he does it he'll assume he's getting negative feedback anyway and definitely won't refund that return postage.

    'Course, I could be over-thinking this.

    I think you are right and the thought had already occurred to me. 

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  • SporkySporky Frets: 23802
    If he doesn't give you the shipping money back, though, negative the crap out of him.
    "[Sporky] brings a certain vibe and dignity to the forum."
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 69426
    That's true. It's probably neutral for "finally got my money back after a long tortuous process" and negative for "wouldn't refund return shipping".

    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

    "Just because I don't care, doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson

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  • Dave_McDave_Mc Frets: 2022
    edited August 2013
    Sporky said:
    The only thing I'd add is that if he does refund your costs to return it (which he absolutely should) then don't leave negative feedback. Not because he'll have made everything OK (he'll still be a twit at best and a scumbag at worst) but because if you get all your money back and still leave negative feedback, the next time he does it he'll assume he's getting negative feedback anyway and definitely won't refund that return postage.

    'Course, I could be over-thinking this.
    On the other hand, not leaving a negative might make people think he's ok to deal with.

    Though from what I remember, when a similar thing happened to me, I just never bothered leaving feedback. I was relieved enough to just get shot of the whole thing, I didn't want to stir it up again.
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  • vizviz Frets: 10211
    bertie said:
    viz said:
    Unbelievable. What's his feedback like?
    screechy,  worse when he stands close to the amp

    Toss-up between a LOL and a facepalm there Bertie, but I'll give you the b of the d on this occasion.
    Paul_C said: People never read the signature bit.
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