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I wonder if I could get away with recording a melody with sounds that approximate to words. then translating it in to something. Most of the time you can't really hear what words are being sung anyway!
It's an age thing (at least for me) I no longer feel I have stuff that absolutely positively needs to be said (even if no-one ever hears the words anyway) but I haven't quite got to the point of letting go of the old singer-songwriter ethic completely and being happy just writing nonsense words that sound right and seem to give an impression of something. I'll do that one day, when I'm ready for it.
But that last is the key, I reckon @ewal - stop worrying about making sense, just fool around a bit and decide that you want an "ooo" sound at the end of the third bar ('coz that's what feels right when you sing it) and an "ah" sound on the next line. Probably, most of what you come up with will be actual English words, but if the sentences don't make sense - who cares?
(That's where I'm heading, anyway. But not this week and probably not this year.)
Not all songs need to make sense or have lyrics that tell a story. Some songs only make sense to the singer. But the delivery has an emotional response in the listener.
As an example, may I suggest the Yessongs live recording of Siberian Khatru. No idea what it's about. Totally love it.
Lots of ideas, as yet no words...
I don't really listen to or read lyrics (which is probably why I'm rubbish at writing them). So having done a bit of research, I was surprised to find this was such a well worn subject! I really am that ignorant! There's loads out there I could be nicking ideas from...
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@ewal Sigur Ros made a career of made up words.
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https://soundcloud.com/thefretboard
Recycle!!
Ok, cheers. I wondered if there were different ones for different sections, i.e. riff of the month etc etc
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You could create separate playlists within the account (which is what happens for the Riff, etc, OTM content) for each collaboration to keep all contributions separated.
Someone would need to have PW though, to allow uploads and create the playlists.
This happens when you write music,,but also lyrics..
This is one of the ways I do it..
Ask.... What do you want the song to be about...??
Then just start singing any old bollocks,.
Taking the any old bollocks method further,,a song theme can suggest itself..
Try and then mould those bollocks to fit that subject matter..
When you get your first line......Write it down..
Now my first cheat..Sing words that nearly rhyme with the ending word....
Plus the obvious ones that do..
Nearly rhyming I find a cheat way of making things sound more natural..
People won't know you have used a rhyming dictionary..etc
If you find a word that is relevant..
Work on the words before it,,make that line mean something..
Be careful of using too many words,,you only have so much breath..
At any point any good melodies come out,,record them,,because the timing within those melodies is important..
Keep developing at least the Verses that way..
Come up with a Memorable Phrase for the Chorus and use it in there somewhere...
Getting more complex,,the Verse can Tell the Story,,but the Chorus can ram the message Home..
The Bridge,,try and make a good musical contrast...
It stops the song from sounding like it is dragging on..
Bowie done Crazy Bridges that was a complete departure from the rest of the song..
You could use a contrasting observation,,or something along the same theme but from a different observer..
I find songs often develop themselves,,but some are easy,,some aren't..
If I can get 2 verses and a chorus,,I will continue later..
Make sure you record what you have no matter how rough...
Once you have the lyrics to the whole song..
Try attempt number one with backing...
Or if you are not happy with the lyrics..
Remember you can use anything before that last rhyming or nearly rhyming word..
So here is the time to get more poetic..
Also look at the tumble and fall of the rhythm of the words..
Check for cliches and throw them out...
If you record with backing first,,go over the lyrics after then record the song..
Take a break away from the song for a week..
Then judge and alter the words as needed..
Some obviously lyrics will fall out at this point and you will think,,why didn't I think of that..
But It may be better to collaborate with someone who focuses on writing, and ending up with something greater than the sum of parts. If creating music that's widely experienced/appreciated by others is the goal, by writing yourself you may end up limiting the potential of your music, or delaying your progression until the point that you develop enough as a writer to do the music justice.
I noticed, on places like soundcloud, that lots of guitarists practice guitar parts till they get it perfect but then seem to think they should be able to sing and come up with cool lyrics to put on top without practicing at all. Like the words should appear out of nowhere.
If you want to get good at something immerse yourself in it.
Keep a note pad handy and write any words, sayings other lyrics, anything you like the sound of.
There's no right or wrong either. Look at bowie cutting lines up and mixing them round.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WeAreTheMusicMakers/comments/kdz55l/songwriting_exercises/
Hope it helps you