Interesting Acoustics video thread

AliGorie · December 2016

TimmyO said:
I'm trying to work out how that neck joint works but the closer I look the more it goes a bit Escher lol

Tim, point me to what u'r talking about and maybe I can help - I've done some (guitar) building and have an interest in 'how they work.
On this subject (Michaud guitars) yeah - very on trend - and heavily 'advertised' over on AGF, loadsa this kinda aesthetic over on that forum - sound and look - think Ol' wizards apprentices.

CHRISB50 · December 2016

AliGorie said:

TimmyO said:
I'm trying to work out how that neck joint works but the closer I look the more it goes a bit Escher lol

Tim, point me to what u'r talking about and maybe I can help - I've done some (guitar) building and have an interest in 'how they work.
On this subject (Michaud guitars) yeah - very on trend - and heavily 'advertised' over on AGF, loadsa this kinda aesthetic over on that forum - sound and look - think Ol' wizards apprentices.

Not a fan?

I haven't been over there for a while but most of the interest in Michaud on AGF seems to centre around that one 'Magic Tree' guitar and their fawning over Marcus Wong playing it.

The guitar he made for Marcus is beautiful, and he is a nice player, but I did find all the 'love' a bit much. Both the sales pitch from Marcus himself and the response from the community.

Joel Michaud definitely knows how to make a guitar though.

Lewy · December 2016

Here's a Gallagher in Jim Hurst's hands:

Gallagher are better known for dreads but this one sounds really sweet!

AliGorie · December 2016

CHRISB50 said:

Not a fan?

'Magic Tree' guitar and their fawning over Marcus Wong playing it.

but I did find all the 'love' a bit much. Both the sales pitch from Marcus himself and the response from the community.

Joel Michaud definitely knows how to make a guitar though.

Not - not a fan, it's just all a bit predictable, the whole 'Somogyi school' thing or the like - get one of his apprentices just 'graduating' build u an on steroids investment and hype it up in certain places - gives then kudos they wouldn't get if they had to rely on just their music - sad really. u'll have noticed these guitars virtually NEVER gig - and if they do it's in a strictly safe setting - for videoing
yeah I saw it refereed to as 'The Trunk'

CHRISB50 · December 2016

AliGorie said:

CHRISB50 said:

Not a fan?

'Magic Tree' guitar and their fawning over Marcus Wong playing it.

but I did find all the 'love' a bit much. Both the sales pitch from Marcus himself and the response from the community.

Joel Michaud definitely knows how to make a guitar though.

Not - not a fan, it's just all a bit predictable, the whole 'Somogyi school' thing or the like - get one of his apprentices just 'graduating' build u an on steroids investment and hype it up in certain places - gives then kudos they wouldn't get if they had to rely on just their music - sad really. u'll have noticed these guitars virtually NEVER gig - and if they do it's in a strictly safe setting - for videoing
yeah I saw it refereed to as 'The Trunk'

Not a fan then

Surely a guitar doesn't have to gig to be a good guitar? Or be supported by a famous player to make it good?

I'll admit it that they don't scream mojo but I don't think that is the intention. They are not only lovely sounding things but also good looking (subjective I know) as well.

TimmyO · December 2016

Lewy said:

Here's a Gallagher in Jim Hurst's hands:

Gallagher are better known for dreads but this one sounds really sweet!

Nice - like his voice too

What size is that then - a small jumbo or ?

Lewy · December 2016

CHRISB50 said:

Surely a guitar doesn't have to gig to be a good guitar?

I guess the demands of running a hedge fund mean the typical Somogyi owner doesn't have the opportunity to gig all that often

CHRISB50 · December 2016

Lewy said:

CHRISB50 said:

Surely a guitar doesn't have to gig to be a good guitar?

I guess the demands of running a hedge fund mean the typical Somogyi owner doesn't have the opportunity to gig all that often

Haha, very true! But a good guitar is still a good guitar. Wherever it is played.

Lewy · December 2016

CHRISB50 said:

Lewy said:

CHRISB50 said:

Surely a guitar doesn't have to gig to be a good guitar?

I guess the demands of running a hedge fund mean the typical Somogyi owner doesn't have the opportunity to gig all that often

Haha, very true! But a good guitar is still a good guitar. Wherever it is played.

Ah but if you strum a good guitar in the middle of the forest and there's no-one there to hear it, does it make a sound?

And the person doing the strumming doesn't count....they've just dropped $40k on a guitar and therefore are incapable of objectivity

CHRISB50 · December 2016

^^ I think that's true of most owners and their guitars.

AliGorie · December 2016

sorry Chris, I left your quote in but forgot to respond -
"Joel Michaud definitely knows how to make a guitar though."
Chris, my point about gigging with these ‘investment’ grade instruments was exactly that they are not guitars as we know and use them. God forbid that they ever get a scuff on the lacquer or a ding.
They are bought up from aspiring luthiers (with the right pedigree) for not much (relatively) money and given suitable exposure in the right places to elevate them to desirable status - investment secured.
And yeah, they may well be good or even great guitars stripped back to purely a musical instrument level and in 'players' hands but that's not they're purpose.

CHRISB50 · December 2016

No worries @AliGorie I think I misunderstood what you were getting at. I presumed you were saying you thought they were a bit shit. I didn't agree with that.

I can't imagine they see much action at your average open mic night down the Dog and Duck. As you say, they are an investment of sorts and doubt many would take the chance of dinging one. I understand what your getting at. They are more of a YouTube demoed in the living room kind of thing.

The point I was trying to make is that these are lovely instruments no matter what their intended use is, or the setting in which they are played. I agree though that they are definitely made for a certain kind of audience.

AliGorie · December 2016

ok, this is the kinda ‘gigging’ most of these guitars do -
found this 'over there -

Image: http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a331/ianLP59/Guitar%20Do%202014/DSCF3359Large.jpg

on average 2.5k minimum a piece and u can bet hardly a mark on them - what a waste of dead trees - it's the equivalent of having animal trophy heads on u'r wall for all the use they'll be put to.
And no, I'm not envious, got a couple of fine guitars I take to sessions and (very) occasionally gig with.

AliGorie · December 2016

really like NK Forsers work, if I was having a guitar built he's on a very short list of potential makers, there was a vid of his 'D' model which given the constraints of the www has to be one of the best sounding guitars I've heard.
And yeah, Presley Barker IS playing a superb guitar - but look at his young fingers - and playing on 13's - whats all this guff 'bout strings being tough to play ? - u just have to want to play.
Herres a guy who builds beautiful looking and sounding instruments -
http://www.dreamguitars.com/detail/5170-lehmann_master_model_2000_476/

AliGorie · December 2016

really like NK Forsers work, if I was having a guitar built he's on a very short list of potential makers, there was a vid of his 'D' model which given the constraints of the www has to be one of the best sounding guitars I've heard.
And yeah, Presley Barker IS playing a superb guitar - but look at his young fingers - and playing on 13's - whats all this guff 'bout strings being tough to play ? - u just have to want to play.
Herres a guy who builds beautiful looking and sounding instruments -
http://www.dreamguitars.com/detail/5170-lehmann_master_model_2000_476/

MagicPigDetective · January 2017

I too am taking a belated interest in acoustic guitars and I've been scouring the web for ideas for the one for me. Ok this is not a great video (there aren't many of this guitar), but I really like the look of the Faith Venus Blood Moon; reviews all state it sounds great and uses an unusual wood (trembese)

AliGorie · January 2017

MagicPigDetective said:

and uses an unusual wood (trembese)

http://www.wood-database.com/monkeypod/

it’s off the legume family NOT Swietenia macrophylla which is THE real one we all love, he’s making it up !, not off the same family not even related.
It is a relative of Monkey Pod (wood) though
‘Piano grade bracing - I very much doubt it - NEVER heard that (exclusive qualifier) before - lets make up a random list of meaningless soundbites.
here's 'Piano Grade' tonewood -
http://www.ciresafiemme.it/en/ciresa-ciresasrl-production-sale-export-piano-soundboard-ribs-wood-spruce-val-di-fiemme-valley-trentino-italy/piano-repairs-restoration-soundboards-ribs-replacement-ciresa-val-di-fiemme-valley-italy.html#prices

Strat_a_tat_tat · January 2017

mgaw said:

love the sound of this guys guitars, shes quite the singer as well IMO

@mgaw. Thanks for that... like her playing, voice and writing. I'll have to check out more of her stuff.

MagicPigDetective · January 2017

@AliGorie ; It was a shame that I posted such a poor video on this thread of so much excellence (Brooke Miller....wow) He's blagging it, he must have misread the press release, which says it has similar timbre to mahogany

https://www.faithguitars.com/news/venus-blood-moon-now-in-uk-stores

Nice looking guitar tho.............

MagicPigDetective · February 2017

TheOtherDennis said:

TimmyO said:

mgaw said:

love the sound of this guys guitars, shes quite the singer as well IMO

Came for the guitar - stayed for the songs - she's a great singer/player/songwriter - thanks

Plus one for that

Here too. Checked out more of her songs on YouTube, they're excellent.

MagicPigDetective · February 2017

TheOtherDennis said:

TimmyO said:

mgaw said:

love the sound of this guys guitars, shes quite the singer as well IMO

Came for the guitar - stayed for the songs - she's a great singer/player/songwriter - thanks

Plus one for that

Here too. Checked out more of her songs on YouTube, they're excellent.

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