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First time amp modding - 2 new mods for my Marshall JVM410HJS

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FarleyUKFarleyUK Frets: 2318
edited January 2016 in Making & Modding
Hi all!

Thought I'd post this to help anyone else with one of these amazing amps. Sound brilliant at stock, but I fancied playing with it a bit - I've now installed:

- Negative feedback mod w/adjustable range
- AFD / Randy Roads 3rd gain stage cascade mod (with 3 way switch)

Both mods really add a lot of new tone options - the negative feedback allows you to go from stock JVM feedback all the way through 2203 JCM800 territory, to 5150 and VOX type negative feedback.

The AFD / RR mod allows the addition of a third gain stage, resulting in more and tighter gain, highs and mids with RR mode, and more grit and crunch in the AFD mode.

Here's some pics of the AFD / RR mod!

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Notice the switch on the far right....?

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Flicking the switch 'up' engages the AFD mode - 2k7 resistor in series with 100nf cap, set parallel to the existing 10k resistor. Flicking it 'down' engages the RR mode, which is a 3k7 resistor in parallel to the existing 10k resistor. In the middle, the switch sets the amp to stock.

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Easily the scariest and hardest part - soldering onto the existing resistor inside the chassis!!

The negative feedback has a pot that's on the back of the amp to allow on-the-fly adjustment :)

Overall, anyone with a JVMHJS, I would highly recommend these mods. Thanks to the guys over at JVMforum for the help!

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  • DarrenDarren Frets: 159

    Nice!!

    I have the standard JVM410 which I modded earlier this year.

    I added a 4.5H Choke - Gain reduction mod (insane amount on tap) - Plexi mod - and also like yourself I added a pot on the rear panel for the negative feedback mod..

    Never tried the JS version, but came very close to buying one earlier this year when Andertons were selling them off pretty cheap.

    The AFD/RR mod sounds interesting..

    Darren

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  • FenrisFenris Frets: 0
    Hey FarleyUK
    What kind of toggle switch have you installed? 6 pins? ON-ON-ON or ?
     And how is the negative feedback made?

    Thanx Peter
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  • Farley i left a ms'g re AFD/RR mods wed 17 did you pick it up,cant seem to find it on here now

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  • FarleyUKFarleyUK Frets: 2318
    Sorry guys, I got rid of the JVM ages ago so can't help with the mod. Best bet is to check the jvmforum.com site as that's where I got all the details from.
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  • FarleyUKFarleyUK Frets: 2318
    Holy necrobump, Batman!

    I sold the original JVM410HJS about 6 years ago, and have regretted it ever since; and as of yesterday, I'm now the proud (re)owner of one; they're bloody hard to track down!



    I wasn't going to mod it, but I just couldn't help myself.... so today I spent a few hours applying the negative feedback mod and the Rhoads / AFD mods. Only trouble is, the original forum with the guide shut down.... and the only post I could find was this one. Thankfully I had the original photos on my phone, and could figure out the wiring etc. Easily the most stressful part was soldering across that resistor on the board; a little bit of poo came out, especially as I melted the cap next to it a bit!

    Check out the negative feedback dial and the Rhoads / AFD switch on the right:



    Anyway, here are the mods for anyone else interested. Obviously, do this at your own risk:

    Negative Feedback Mod

    Instead of placing another resistor in parallel with R58, I cut the 3rd blue cable at the NFB block - the 3 blue leads on the board, and the cable to cut handily has an arrow above it on the PCB - and put a 1Meg log pot between the cables. You'll need to obviously extend the cables by soldering extra lengths to them.

    This has the result of allowing you to change the negative feedback; fully left (or '0') is stock NFB - which I actually prefer - and moving clockwise gradually increases the resistance for the NFB. This has the effect of 'opening the amp up'; you'll notice the depth and presence don't have much impact (if any) when the new NFB pot is fully clockwise.









    AFD / Rhoads Mod

    This was the scariest mod to do due to having to solder to an existing resistor on the PCB, and it's a VERY tight fit.

    To do this, get an On-On-On switch. For the middle two arms, wire a length of cable to each side. For the top two, connect a 3k7 resistor (I had to use a 2k7 and a 1k in series). For the bottom, connect a 100nf / 0.1uf cap in series with a 2k7 resistor.

    Now for the shit-your-pants bit.....

    Find resistor R161 on the PCB; it should be around the 2nd power tube socket on the left of the board. You need to solder one of the ends of lead you connected to the middle connections on the switch to one side, and the other cable to the other side. You probably want to discharge the filter caps before doing this! I didn't but I'm stupid.

    The point of this mod is that when you have the switch in the middle, it is the stock JVM410HJS gain stages. Flip the switch up, and you get the AFD mode; seems to have more mids and bit more girth and gain. Flip it down, and you get the Rhoads mod - pure filth. More gain, more body and more sizzle.




    Hope that helps anyone else looking to do these - I'll try and record some vids soon.


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  • KalimnaKalimna Frets: 1486
    Excellent mini-mod-tutorial. Thanks for that. Now I just need to find a Satriani JVM to modify! Or failing that, I wonder if @Modulus_Amps could release this as a kit????? ;)
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  • CHrisP86CHrisP86 Frets: 357
    I was going to have a go at the NFB mod on my DSL.

    Probably a daft question but what wire gauge did you use to run to and from the pot?
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  • FarleyUKFarleyUK Frets: 2318
    CHrisP86 said:
    I was going to have a go at the NFB mod on my DSL.

    Probably a daft question but what wire gauge did you use to run to and from the pot?
    Erm, I have no idea....! It was just the wire gauge I use for guitar wiring, so whatever that normally is.
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